On calling bullshit

[warpedskydiver 0]

Once again you may have a few facts about surveillance but you are unmistakably wrong that the government is omnipotent.

You post how inept they are in some threads then claim they are all powerful in another, which is it?

And as for screening cops for allegiance to the reich, you are VERY WRONG.

I wonder how you can say that in light of the fact that cities like chicago have hired gang members onto the police force?

They only find some of them afterwards when they have committed offenses.

Even the military can't screen that thoroughly.

Do you believe they use mind reading scans?

I suggest you get some aluminum foil and make a hat or a suit.

[NCclimber 0]

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Look what the Italians did to Mousolini? The American gov is smart enough to build their police forces to resemble military / SWAT operations. Any public rebellion would be fatal for all rebels.... either lump it or leave.

Well then without me takin bait to discuss matters which do not need be public information you might do this:

Ask any police officer if he thinks his department is capable of taking ona few armed thugs.

Then ask them if they are prepared to take on a determined enemy with whom they may even sympathize, bear in mind that these said individuals would be trying to restore our constitution and in fact be made up of regular citizens, former and current military members and even police officers.

I say just look at the numbers alone.

Look at how many police there are in this country and what weapons they possess, then look at how many veterans and other like minded individuals there are and their collective training makes a police force look impotent.

I have many federal agents as friends as well as seasoned police officers and they would not want to face that.

It would be suicide.

So your point that I was supposedly wrong about was that a revolution would not work, you're saying it would. OK.

If the local and fed gov's let people assemble and train, you're right, but they don't. Get 3 guys together talking gins and the gov calls this a potential militia. Get 10 guys who like to play war games and that's a militia. The local and fed gov is scared to death of any assmbly of guys with high power stuff, so they just conveniently set them up with the help of our lovely judges if they dare assemble. This same philosophy is used when busting unions; if they're able to individualize everyone, they can exploit labor all day long. If they can individualize would-be revolutionists, they can exploit his ocnst rights all day long.

It's romantic to think the people can take back their gov, but it's suicidal utopia if ever applied. It would take at least 50 people to ever make a dent, really 1000 to exact any change, then they would send in the military to wipe em out. I've always said the US gov won't be changed from within, but from without, so maybe all this worldwide dissent isn't really bad. Maybe the gov will piss off the rest of teh world enough to overthrow the gov just as Japan, Italy and Germany's gov was forced to chage after we (allieds) overthrew them.

I guess, "Love it or leave it" aplies here.

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Then ask them if they are prepared to take on a determined enemy with whom they may even sympathize,

In keeping with this thread, I call BS on this. Cops sympathize with cops, the system is setup that way.

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former and current military members and even police officers.

I call BS on this too. They screen and train cops for loyalty to the reich.

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then look at how many veterans and other like minded individuals there are and their collective training makes a police force look impotent.

As I wrote, people in large numbers aren't willing to die for the cause. And if there was a group like this, with the wiretaps, they would identify them, raid them, drop some kiddie porn in there and make their cause look despiciable. Of course they would use their so-called liberal media to aid in spreading the word.

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I have many federal agents as friends as well as seasoned police officers and they would not want to face that.

You're right, that's why they watch guys with M60's and other class 3 goodies and if they detect any language that makes them organized, they call them terrorists. The cops are part of this illicit chain of events and this is how they combat having to face them in street warfare.