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Shit. Cops just can't get a break from any direction. Their superiors, the media, their peers who bend the law and then invoke the Code of Silence, the public, Attorneys bringing civil suits. Makes one wonder how anyone lasts more than twenty minutes as a cop. One can only guess the reward in putting one arsewipe behind bars for a looooong time or saving one life makes the BS worth it.
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kallend 2,106
QuoteShit. Cops just can't get a break from any direction. Their superiors, the media, their peers who bend the law and then invoke the Code of Silence, the public, Attorneys bringing civil suits. Makes one wonder how anyone lasts more than twenty minutes as a cop. One can only guess the reward in putting one arsewipe behind bars for a looooong time or saving one life makes the BS worth it.
It's a free country, no-one is forced to be a cop.
Cops do a great job of covering up their mistakes. The Jon Burge case in Chicago has been stonewalled by the Chicago Police Department for over ten years.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Lucky... 0
QuoteShit. Cops just can't get a break from any direction. Their superiors, the media, their peers who bend the law and then invoke the Code of Silence, the public, Attorneys bringing civil suits. Makes one wonder how anyone lasts more than twenty minutes as a cop. One can only guess the reward in putting one arsewipe behind bars for a looooong time or saving one life makes the BS worth it.
QuoteShit. Cops just can't get a break from any direction.
Are you joking? Cops continually get breaks and are rarely tried and virtually never convicted foreven killing people. Cops get breaks, not becuase the courts love them, but becuase the courts ant to keep them on their side.
Quotetheir peers who bend the law and then invoke the Code of Silence,
I like that, "bend the law." Thx, I needed teh laugh. When civilians violate the law, they are law breaking scum, when cops do it they are simply and lerely bending the law and are therefore exonerated. You kinda made my point.
QuoteAttorneys bringing civil suits. Makes one wonder how anyone lasts more than twenty minutes as a cop.
Show me where cops pay put oftheur pockets. Usually the state of local police association picks up the tabs for legla fees and insurance policies pay any judgments.
QuoteOne can only guess the reward in putting one arsewipe behind bars for a looooong time or saving one life makes the BS worth it.
The gov rubber stamped right for cops to violate civil rights of all people, esp poor people kinda makes it worth it in the end.
JohnRich 4
Quotedoes it not follow that the custodians of a drunk minor should be responsible? In this case, the minor was in police custody. By taking a minor into custody, the police assumed responsibility for his safety.
And if the cop had hog-tied the kid to completely immobilize him, you would have been the first one in here to criticize the cop for being too rough on him and violating his rights...
QuoteQuotedoes it not follow that the custodians of a drunk minor should be responsible? In this case, the minor was in police custody. By taking a minor into custody, the police assumed responsibility for his safety.
And if the cop had hog-tied the kid to completely immobilize him, you would have been the first one in here to criticize the cop for being too rough on him and violating his rights...
And don't the parents share some responsibility for not having a minor in their charge, home and sober at 3am?
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Lindsey 0
And don't the parents share some responsibility for not having a minor in their charge, home and sober at 3am?
Yes. They did have a responsibility that they obviously did not meet. But, unfortunately, I bet it's the police officer who will be liable.
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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
kallend 2,106
QuoteQuotedoes it not follow that the custodians of a drunk minor should be responsible? In this case, the minor was in police custody. By taking a minor into custody, the police assumed responsibility for his safety.
And if the cop had hog-tied the kid to completely immobilize him, you would have been the first one in here to criticize the cop for being too rough on him and violating his rights...
It's a free country - no one is forced to be a cop.
However, if one chooses to assume the responsibility of being a cop, then one should expect to be held responsible. A minor is, by definition, a person with incompletely developed judgment, a drunk is obviously irresponsible, and a drunk minor incapacitated by handcuffs is incapable either of making rational decisions or of saving himself.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
QuoteAnd if the cop had hog-tied the kid to completely immobilize him, you would have been the first one in here to criticize the cop for being too rough on him and violating his rights...
Had the officer put the kid in the backseat and closed the doors the kid would be alive today. Backdoors in every cop car I have seen do not have inside handles.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
QuoteI find it truly disheartening that a cop, who was trying to save other road users from a drunk unlicensed 16yr-old Darwin-nominee Houdini (not to mention, trying to save the brat from himself) and who will no doubt be greatly upset that a boy died on his watch, will now be reprimanded and scorned for trying to protect others and doing everything by the book in his attempt to do so.
I would bet the farm that if this was your child you would scream bloody murder.
No doubt, the kid made a mistake and he should had paid for it in court. How many here can say that they never screwed up? I feel sorry for the cop as I am positive that he believed that he did everything right. An unfortunate chain of events.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
Lindsey 0
QuoteQuoteI find it truly disheartening that a cop, who was trying to save other road users from a drunk unlicensed 16yr-old Darwin-nominee Houdini (not to mention, trying to save the brat from himself) and who will no doubt be greatly upset that a boy died on his watch, will now be reprimanded and scorned for trying to protect others and doing everything by the book in his attempt to do so.
I would bet the farm that if this was your child you would scream bloody murder.
No doubt, the kid made a mistake and he should had paid for it in court. How many here can say that they never screwed up? I feel sorry for the cop as I am positive that he believed that he did everything right. An unfortunate chain of events.
If he were my child I'd be sad, and I wish the officer had at least kept an eye on him....(noticed he was missing and then saw him in the water???)....but I wouldn't blame the police officer for my child's death. And I sure as hell wouldn't sue anyone for my child's stupidity.
The cop really SHOULD have paid better attention to the kid though. To just assume that the drunk 16 y/o would just sit there as he was told shows a serious lack of judgment on the officer's part.
linz
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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
skycop 0
I'd bet my next paycheck there will be a lawsuit and the agency will likely settle.
The officer made a mistake and the kid died.
Oh the joy of police work..................
We had a similiar situation where I work, during a large event (approx. 250,000 people, I do mean large). Traffic on a six-lane highway bridge had stopped, and thousands of people were watching the event. An 18 year old was high and drunk, pushed an officer and ran, the officer chased him and the kid jumped up on the cement retaining wall. The kid then lost his balance and fell 60 feet onto a parking lot. The family didn't sue (suprisingly) but it was huge media circus, and all the monday morning quarterbacks were blaming the officer.
In the situation posted, the juvenile was already in custody and the officer made a mistake. Anytime you mention any government agency and the word "mistake", the lawyers come running.
"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"
The officer made a mistake and the kid died.
Oh the joy of police work..................
We had a similiar situation where I work, during a large event (approx. 250,000 people, I do mean large). Traffic on a six-lane highway bridge had stopped, and thousands of people were watching the event. An 18 year old was high and drunk, pushed an officer and ran, the officer chased him and the kid jumped up on the cement retaining wall. The kid then lost his balance and fell 60 feet onto a parking lot. The family didn't sue (suprisingly) but it was huge media circus, and all the monday morning quarterbacks were blaming the officer.
In the situation posted, the juvenile was already in custody and the officer made a mistake. Anytime you mention any government agency and the word "mistake", the lawyers come running.
"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"
Lindsey 0
I think there are a LOT of people who wouldn't sue. It's sad that so many people are ready to turn such a nasty situation into a cash profit....
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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
skycop 0
Two words............"deep pockets"
"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"
"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"
Lindsey 0
Your avatar looks like a dildo.
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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail
skycop 0
Hmmmm...............
Your avatar looks like a guy......
Or are you a guy............can't tell by the name.....
If so the dildo remark is a little creepy..
"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"
Your avatar looks like a guy......
Or are you a guy............can't tell by the name.....
If so the dildo remark is a little creepy..
"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"
ExAFO 0
QuoteHmmmm...............
Your avatar looks like a guy......
Or are you a guy............can't tell by the name.....
If so the dildo remark is a little creepy..
It's better than the star trek wings they make the missileers wear now...suckers...
Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.
Given that minors are not considered responsible enough or have good enough judgment to vote OR CONSUME BOOZE, or be executed in most civilized jursidictions, and minors are not held to the same standards of behavior as adults, and drunks are clearly suffering from impaired judgment, does it not follow that the custodians of a drunk minor should be responsible? In this case, the minor was in police custody.
By taking a minor into custody, the police assumed responsibility for his safety.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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