Free Speech? HS student suspended for displaying "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" sign
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billvon 2,990
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Soon we'll be hearing more about how this is one more example of how horribly christians are persecuted. Bill O'Reilly will condemn the "War on Jesus" and urge everyone to boycott Alaska salmon. Al Sharpton will fly up to Alaska and camp out on the steps of the courthouse to protest this outrageous governmental abuse of religious freedom. Then he'll vanish when he realizes this guy isn't black. CNN will do a special report entitles "Christianity in the crosshairs." Tony Snow will condemn the activist judges that allowed the case to reach the Supreme Court. And if this kid is lucky, the made-for-TV movie about the case will get good reviews and he'll become as famous as that guy who lost 230 pounds eating at Subway.
jarrodh 0
speech is not protected in schools
2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!!
Quotespeech is not protected in schools
... or apparently anywhere in the near vicinity of schools.
Edited to add: And coming soon to a Supreme Court near you: A series of redefinitions of "near vicinity".
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wuffo2 0
You forgot the GAY part in thereQuoteSoon we'll be hearing more about how this is one more example of how horribly christians are persecuted. Bill O'Reilly will condemn the "War on Jesus" and urge everyone to boycott Alaska salmon. Al Sharpton will fly up to Alaska and camp out on the steps of the courthouse to protest this outrageous governmental abuse of religious freedom. Then he'll vanish when he realizes this guy isn't black. CNN will do a special report entitles "Christianity in the crosshairs." Tony Snow will condemn the activist judges that allowed the case to reach the Supreme Court. And if this kid is lucky, the made-for-TV movie about the case will get good reviews and he'll become as famous as that guy who lost 230 pounds eating at Subway.
EWdit to add: There was a gay postal worker w/ a GUN somewhere
QuotePrincipal Deborah Morse ordered the 18-year-old senior to take down the sign, but he refused. That led to a 10-day suspension for violating a school policy by promoting illegal drug use.
"Bong Hits 4 Jesus" banner.
Bong Hits 4 Jesus "promotes" drug use? Huh?
1. you can smoke anything from a bong. word.
2. the sign only 'promotes' bong hits for Jesus.
3. the sign contests a historical POV that Jesus may have been a toker
4. 10 day suspension is a bit excessive for an 18 yr old adult. Make him write a 10 page paper on the constitution.
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Calvin19 0
or, if your STUPID enough to have children, try totaly destroying your outward life and homeschool them.
i saw the bumper staicker the other day '6 billion miracles is enough'
i saw the bumper staicker the other day '6 billion miracles is enough'
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Bong Hits 4 Jesus "promotes" drug use? Huh?
3. the sign contests a historical POV that Jesus may have been a toker
Historical point of view? I know smoking out can alter perception of time and reality, but what do you consider historical? Would this be comparable to Ron L Hubbards history of our alien forefathers?
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Bong Hits 4 Jesus "promotes" drug use? Huh?
3. the sign contests a historical POV that Jesus may have been a toker
Historical point of view? I know smoking out can alter perception of time and reality, but what do you consider historical? Would this be comparable to Ron L Hubbards history of our alien forefathers?
Right.
Point being, the banner itself does not promote illegal drug use.
Well, maybe it promotes drug use... for Jesus. How serious can you take a sign that promotes drugs for dead people (or at least people in heaven)?
Maybe the banner is an anti-drug statement?
"Your Honor, the banner in question urges drug users to give their drugs to god."
A 10 day suspension seems a bit excessive to me. But then I don't have kids... so...
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Ken
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QuoteQuotespeech is not protected in schools
... or apparently anywhere in the near vicinity of schools.
Edited to add: And coming soon to a Supreme Court near you: A series of redefinitions of "near vicinity".
doesnt matter in this case. The school doesnt claim he was on school grounds, only that he was at a school sponsored event.
Had he gone to that SAME spot at 5pm on his OWN and this happened, then I'd say the school overstepped thier bounds, but in this case I'm with the school. Unfortunately for the kid, he didnt think it all through. He just thought to himself "gee, we'll be off the school property, I can get away with this since im not IN school, or ON school property." He simply didnt think it through from all angles and forgot it was school sponsored. Same thing should have happened if they bussed the kids across town during school hours.
Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO!
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When you're out of the blue and into the black."
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When you're out of the blue and into the black."
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billvon 2,990
>You forgot the GAY part in there.
He's gay, too? This guy's going to get his own show!
He's gay, too? This guy's going to get his own show!
sundevil777 102
I have no sympathy for the kid at all.
The school was still responsible for them at the time.
He was ordered to take it down. He refused, thereby giving up his chance to have his fun and get away with it without punishment.
It is already well established that children in school don't have the same free speech rights as they would in other settings. This is not a case of censorship.
Do you really think the school should have done nothing?
The school was still responsible for them at the time.
He was ordered to take it down. He refused, thereby giving up his chance to have his fun and get away with it without punishment.
It is already well established that children in school don't have the same free speech rights as they would in other settings. This is not a case of censorship.
Do you really think the school should have done nothing?
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am
QuoteI have no sympathy for the kid at all.
The school was still responsible for them at the time.
He was ordered to take it down. He refused, thereby giving up his chance to have his fun and get away with it without punishment.
It is already well established that children in school don't have the same free speech rights as they would in other settings. This is not a case of censorship.
Do you really think the school should have done nothing?
A 10-page paper is more appropriate than a 10 day suspension. This is largely dependent on the goals of the education system. Apparently respect for arbitrary authority figures is more important than the constitution and stimulating young minds to have an original point of view.
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