New York City Bans Trans Fats from Restaurants

[JohnRich 4]

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NYC Bans Trans Fats From Eateries

"New York is becoming the first city in the country to ban all restaurants from using artificial trans fats. The city's health commissioner said the changes will help fight the twin epidemics of obesity and heart disease..."

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Do you want the government telling you what kind of foods you can eat? Shouldn't individuals be allowed to decide for themselves what products to consume? And with this precedent in place, what's next: banning sugar?

[Andy9o8 2]

On balance, I disapprove. The motive is laudable, but adults can police themselves. I would, however support an ordinance mandating that the amount of all trans-fats in each dish be prominently labeled, so that consumers can make an informed choice. I read the "nutrition information" labels at the supermarket; it would be nice to be able to do so at restaurants, too.

[rehmwa 2]

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On balance, I disapprove. The motive is laudable, but adults can police themselves. I would, however support an ordinance mandating that the amount of all trans-fats in each dish be prominently labeled, so that consumers can make an informed choice. I read the "nutrition information" labels at the supermarket; it would be nice to be able to do so at restaurants, too.

That's easy to say from an armchair, but just walk in the shoes of a couple of the really fat people for a few times and you'll change your tune

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[NCclimber 0]

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On balance, I disapprove. The motive is laudable, but adults can police themselves. I would, however support an ordinance mandating that the amount of all trans-fats in each dish be prominently labeled, so that consumers can make an informed choice. I read the "nutrition information" labels at the supermarket; it would be nice to be able to do so at restaurants, too.

That's easy to say from an armchair, but just walk in the shoes of a couple of the really fat people for a few times and you'll change your tune

Didn't Randy Newman write a song about fat people???

[vortexring 0]

No, this is good John.

Trans-fats are killers mate, and their generally found in cheaper foods. From ice-cream to ready-to-eat pasta bags.
And being found in cheaper foods, it's generally the poorer element of society eating them, and feeding them to their children.

Banning them is an excellent idea - they have no nutritional value.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[rehmwa 2]

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it's generally the poorer element of society eating them,

another post saying "save the poor from themselves, they are too stupid to care for themselves" we were poor growing up and we had a well balanced diet. I resent you thinking my parents weren't smart enough to make their own decision about life and what kind of shoes to wear.

The rich can eat all the transfat they want, they aren't really people.....

Edit: I'm torn, I hate cigarettes and think similar laws are fine on that subject (more than fine), but this one I think is much ado about nothing. Of course, no one is force feeding me quarter pounders at every building entrance I pass. And I have no issue with others injecting or consuming tar and nicotine....... So maybe they are really that analogous after all.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[vortexring 0]

Nah, it's got nothing to do with the poor not looking after themselves.
These trans fats, or hydrogenated vegetable oils are so common place that to check every item of your weekly shop takes a very long time.
I've done so myself, being naturally concerned about my childrens health.

I drive my Mrs mad sometimes, as she generally does the weekly shop, with me gobbing off about all the items she picked with the trans fats and E numbers! There everywhere!
Just ban the rubbish. It has no place in our diets other than to prolong foods shelf lives and fur up our arteries.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[billvon 2,991]

>Do you want the government telling you what kind of foods you can eat?

To some extent, yes. The USDA performs an important job by testing things like meat, dairy etc to prevent foodborne epidemics by preventing the distribution of tainted meat. The government also has a role in determining the danger some foods pose and clearly identifying this (on food labels and the like.) But banning certain types of fat (at least, if it is not _immediately_ dangerous) doesn't make much sense.

[vortexring 0]

Course it does - these fats are utter crap. They serve no purpose towards a healthy diet - only the opposite!
This is getting hilarious - they don't even taste good!

There is no reason to keep them unless your a crap food producing company and you want to maintain your products shelf life, despite the proven health risk to the consumers.

BAN THEM!!!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[billvon 2,991]

>Course it does - these fats are utter crap. They serve no purpose
> towards a healthy diet - only the opposite! This is getting
>hilarious - they don't even taste good!

I agree. Heck, I think the same thing about Twinkies. But I figure some people like em.

>There is no reason to keep them unless your a crap food producing
> company and you want to maintain your products shelf life, despite
> the proven health risk to the consumers.

And you want to make more money, which is always plus.

On the other side, there is no reason to EAT them. So why not let people decide to eat them or not?

[Andy9o8 2]

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On balance, I disapprove. The motive is laudable, but adults can police themselves. I would, however support an ordinance mandating that the amount of all trans-fats in each dish be prominently labeled, so that consumers can make an informed choice. I read the "nutrition information" labels at the supermarket; it would be nice to be able to do so at restaurants, too.

That's easy to say from an armchair, but just walk in the shoes of a couple of the really fat people for a few times and you'll change your tune

Didn't Randy Newman write a song about fat people???

It's inside baseball. You're just out of it, man.

Oh, PS - it's "short people".

[rehmwa 2]

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There is no reason to keep them unless your a crap food producing company and you want to maintain your products shelf life, despite the proven health risk to the consumers.

he's on to me

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[vortexring 0]

Because they're found in so many food stuffs today people often buy and eat them without realising.

And not everyone is aware of them, or the dangers.

And then they feed their children..........

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[masterrig 1]

Maybe, they are trying to do something about the stupid lawsuits because some guy ate 3-Big Macs and smoked 4-packs of cigarettes a day and has heart disease!
Personaly, I don't need the govt. or anyone else telling me what I can and can't eat. I watch my diet and know what is and what isn't 'good' for me.
Then too, 2-eggs, fried in bacon grease, biscuits and gravy with bacon IS pretty good! I just wouldn't make a steady diet of it!


Chuck


Chuck

[georgerussia 0]

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Do you want the government telling you what kind of foods you can eat? Shouldn't individuals be allowed to decide for themselves what products to consume?

I see several problems here.

First, so far a lot of individuals seems to unable to make a correct decision for themselves. Just look on the obesity rate around the country. After all, that's why the government banned the drugs - every adult knows, or should know, the cosequences of using them, doesn't he?

Second, it seems to be not just the individual problem. The obesity rate increase resulted in direct increase of group health insurance premiums, making the health insurance more expensive and less affordable. I know at least two employers in SFBY, who do not provide health insurance benefits because the cost increased almost twice since 2005.

Third, I doubt you can find a fast food reustarant, which does not use trans fat. And if you willing to go to a fast food, but do not want to eat trans fat - even if it obviously will cost more - you are on your own

* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

[rehmwa 2]

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Then too, 2-eggs, fried in bacon grease, biscuits and gravy with bacon IS pretty good! I just wouldn't make a steady diet of it![laugh

that's what my doctor says, too

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[freeflybella 0]

I agree. Bad bad bad. No reason for them other than to extend the shelf life of processed, junk food.

Smoking didn't immediately kill you either - and many didn't know the ill effects of smoking until it was too late.

Now the discussion can begin as to whether trans fats are addictive. I say fatty food is addictive.

Especially when being marketed and fed to children.

Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi

[billvon 2,991]

>Because they're found in so many food stuffs today people often buy
>and eat them without realising. And not everyone is aware of them,
>or the dangers.

I agree - which is why I'm in favor of labeling them clearly if they contain such substances. Then people can make their own decisions.

[masterblaster72 0]

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Just ban the rubbish. It has no place in our diets other than to prolong foods shelf lives and fur up our arteries.

That's why I think the ban is a great idea.

Hopefully the idea will catch on and the FDA will eventually follow suit and make a federal-level ban and corporations will find something healthier to help preserve the food they put on the shelves.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[vortexring 0]

I'd agree on fatty food being addictive.

Normally I'll enjoy the occasional 3 piece Colonel meal or Whopper meal. Perhaps once or twice a month.

When I'm away for a month or two, inevitably on the way home I'll visit BK or the Colonel, because that's what I'll have cravings for ().

Didn't someone once claim to 'hate' the Colonel because he put an addictive chemical in his chicken which made you crave it fortnightly??? ('...with his wee beady eyes...')

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[masterrig 1]

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Then too, 2-eggs, fried in bacon grease, biscuits and gravy with bacon IS pretty good! I just wouldn't make a steady diet of it![laugh

that's what my doctor says, too

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Chuck

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I'd agree on fatty food being addictive.

Normally I'll enjoy the occasional 3 piece Colonel meal or Whopper meal. Perhaps once or twice a month.

When I'm away for a month or two, inevitably on the way home I'll visit BK or the Colonel, because that's what I'll have cravings for ().

Didn't someone once claim to 'hate' the Colonel because he put an addictive chemical in his chicken which made you crave it fortnightly??? ('...with his wee beady eyes...')

Don't eat at the KFC in Blackpool, I threw up blood afterwards.

[vortexring 0]

Tell me you didn't eat the bones mate.......

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[JohnRich 4]

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No, this is good John.

Trans-fats are killers mate, and their generally found in cheaper foods. From ice-cream to ready-to-eat pasta bags.
And being found in cheaper foods, it's generally the poorer element of society eating them, and feeding them to their children.

Banning them is an excellent idea - they have no nutritional value.

Thank you for deciding on my behalf what I should eat, since I'm incapable of making such decisions for myself.

And if they can ban certain products because they might kill you decades later from the long-term effects, then how come they haven't outlawed cigarettes?

I hear that skydiving can kill you too - perhaps the government should ban that too - for our own good, of course.

[ExAFO 0]

Meh, who cares? They'll switch to something w/o trans fat. That's a good thing--fewer fat people.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.