Teen sentenced to 90 years

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Well, let's make a list of some other groups that are an economic drain on society...

Retards
Homeless Bums
Old People
Anti-social children
Welfare mothers
Illegal immigrants
Lawyers

Sure could save some money if we just got rid of the problem groups...

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Keep me on retainer, and I'll argue it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Keep me on retainer, and I'll argue it.

We have faith in you. How many do you think you'll feed?

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This sounds like a copycat of an assualt which happened in washington some years ago..10?..in I thnk Yakima. This was a wrestler who was assualted by 3 boys. allof them 17 I believe. but in this case the assulaters were MEXICAN on a white boy...funny how the race card on hate crimes only goes one way. I know these boys were not even charged near what they deserved.
EDIT: I forgot to add for those who google, the object was a broomstick. Maybe you can find the story

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Why don't we just execute both of them and give the food and shelter to someone else in the world that needs it?

Becuase we can't help but to execute innocent people by, "mistake."

Yes, we can.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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That's my thought - eventually, even speeding could be considered excessive.

I know you (and other people) have the ability to use logic and reasoning to realize that a crime involving the physical and sexual abuse of another person is not the same as speeding and the slope is not and will not be that slippery that they will have the same punishment now or any time in the future.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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the slope is not and will not be that slippery that they will have the same punishment now or any time in the future.

Really? Did you ever think you'd see the day when people would get 25 to life for a simple assault? It's the 3 strikes laws, and I find them to be good laws, but it's going there.

Did you ever think you'd see the day when people would be held and detained without charges for a period of years? We are seeing it.

Back in the early 80's, they banned smoking on all flights two hours or less. Then they made it 3 hours. Then all transcontinental flights. Then all flights originating in or arriving at the US. Then in all airports. Then in all government buildings. Then in all restaurants. Then in all bars. Then in all public parks. Then in all public places. Now, some places are banning smoking in private vehicles.

Back in the 1980's, only the crazy reactionaries would think that within 20 years smoking would be outlawed in bars, fer Chrissake. A bar is so different from a sealed tube at 30,000 feet. But it happened.

Senator Hubert Humphrey said of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, "If the Senator can find in Title VII ... any language which provides that an employer will have to hire on the basis of percentage or quota related to color, race, religion, or national origin, I will start eating the pages one after another, because it is not in there."

No, the bill ddn't contain language mandating quotas, but it sure as hell led to them. A couple of years ago, we had a pinko Supreme Court indicate that unconstitutional stuff (like quotas) is okay, so long as it doesn't last a long time and is done with good intentions.

Slippery slopes? Haven't we seen far too many of them?

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Slippery slopes? Haven't we seen far too many of them?

No, because the slippery slope arguement is a bad arguement. According to the slippery slope arguement we shouldn't do anything because it may lead to something else.

Don't punish murderers or else we may punish people who think about murdering in the future.

Don't punish rapists or else we may punish people who think about sex with another person without their permission in the future.

PS: To those with the ability to use logic and reasoning the slope is not that slippery. (The problem is that people in a position of authority who are creating or changing the laws are not always using logic and reasoning and may have alterior motives causing them to slide farther.)

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[lawrocket 3]

The slippery slope is already there and always there. WE typically find ourselves moving steadily downward until the People say, "Enough. This time you've gone too far." It's a good thing, but a pretty rough thing for those people who are the examples of why the government went too far.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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I believe there are PC terms for all those listed..well, except maybe the lawyers, do they have a PC name yet??

"May the best of your past be the worst of your future"

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mentally challenged
shelter seekers
youth seekers
friend needers
gold diggers
US citizens

Lawyers......Still cant come up with fitting nickname!

"May the best of your past be the worst of your future"

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The slippery slope is already there and always there. WE typically find ourselves moving steadily downward until the People say, "Enough. This time you've gone too far." It's a good thing, but a pretty rough thing for those people who are the examples of why the government went too far.

Agreed, the "slippery" slope is always there. At this point in time I believe there are plenty of areas we have slid to far and plenty of areas we have not slid far enough.

It is a shame the government went to far with some people that didn't deserve it but that shouldn't stop the government from going far enough with some people that do deserve it.

When we stop using logic and reasoning to create laws and appropriate punishment (which may already be the case in some situations) then it doesn't matter how near or far we have slid. We must be aware of the "slippery" slope but we must not use the "slippery" slope arguement to stop the creation (or modification) of laws and appropriate punishment that are based on sound logic and reasoning.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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he admitted to being the first one to grab the umbrella pole and joking about using it to sodomize the victim.

He should be happy then. Plenty of sodomy where he is going to spend the next 90 years.

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UUUUUMMMM So whatever happened to the mother that slept through the whole thing? You mean to tell me she didn't hear a thing? There was a minor at her house and last I heard she could be charged also.

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The mother sleapt through many minors drinking, smoking, doing drugs, and later shouting racial slurs in and outside of her home ... must be a really sound sleeper (and bad mother).

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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The mother sleapt through many minors drinking, smoking, doing drugs, and later shouting racial slurs in and outside of her home ... must be a really sound sleeper (and bad mother).

come on....give her a little bit of leeway... her kids were all coked up and wired, she couldn't sleep, so she was all hopped up on morphine...

if you were hopped up on morphine, would you not also sleep through an attack in your house?

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Sodomized with an umbrella, eh? I think the death penalty is just a BIT extreme.

I was hazed worse than this pladging a fraternity.

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I was hazed worse than this pladging a fraternity

No, you weren't. This was horrific; there was a lot of doubt about whether he was going to live in the beginning, and if he did, how much brain damage there would be from the stomping.

I also think the death penalty is excessive, but this was a truly awful beating/stomping, for the most arbitrary and fuck-you-my-momentary-feelings-are-what-matters kinds of rationale. And particularly the main perpetrator really should be isolated from society, for society's protection. He's shown an escalating pattern over the years.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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90 years and/or life in prison area a bit extreme in this case, I mean some people (OJ) get away with murder. I think the whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" law comes into play here. But the umbrella that should be used on them would have to be large and rusty!

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90 years and/or life in prison area a bit extreme in this case, I mean some people (OJ) get away with murder. I think the whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" law comes into play here. But the umbrella that should be used on them would have to be large and rusty!

Because some people are found innocent (that are guilty) you think the people that are found guilty should have lighter sentences?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Because some people are found innocent (that are guilty) you think the people that are found guilty should have lighter sentences?

After seeing that type of sentiment here all time you are surprised to read it (again)?

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Because some people are found innocent (that are guilty) you think the people that are found guilty should have lighter sentences?

After seeing that type of sentiment here all time you are surprised to read it (again)?

Surprised, no. Frustrated, yes.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Why don't we just execute both of them and give the food and shelter to someone else in the world that needs it?

Becuase we can't help but to execute innocent people by, "mistake."

Yes, we can.

If there is a way to have a death penalty without risking killing innocents, why hasn't it ever been tried?

Please, tell the world the secret!

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I believe there are PC terms for all those listed..well, except maybe the lawyers, do they have a PC name yet??

"Morally challenged"

"Of course it's not right, but it's just legal."

People forget two things.
1- Law isn't justice. It the supposed to be the closest approximation of it that you can find (California excluded.)

2- Legal isn't right. It is whatever you can convince a judge to rule.

OJ is doing fine here in Florida. (Commit a murder crime in Cal, move to Florida. Is this some type of rule there?)

At least the law is applied fairly. Rich people everywhere have breathed a sigh of relief that they are still above the law, regardless of race.

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Why don't we just execute both of them and give the food and shelter to someone else in the world that needs it?

Becuase we can't help but to execute innocent people by, "mistake."

Yes, we can.

If there is a way to have a death penalty without risking killing innocents, why hasn't it ever been tried?

Please, tell the world the secret!

Only execute the people found guilty when there exists overwhelming evidence that is not disputable and leaves no doubt. (Person is caught and apprehended in the act, person admits guilt, person caught on video, person is identified by multiple reliable witnesses, etc...)

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch