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proof that 9/11 was planned by us gov.

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i don't know wether or not bin laden was involved but the one video were he confesses to it is highly disputed, some have ridiculed it as a fake.

also recently some top us military commanders have come forward saying that they were told by the white house not to pursue bin laden when they were close to capturing him.
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i don't know wether or not bin laden was involved but the one video were he confesses to it is highly disputed, some have ridiculed it as a fake.

also recently some top us military commanders have come forward saying that they were told by the white house not to pursue bin laden when they were close to capturing him.



So who are responsible for the attacks on the U.S. before 9/11?
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Hush,OBL does not really exist,that`s why he`s never been captured.;)



Actually OBL is just Elvis in disguise.

Man this thread is better than Springer.
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Hey man haven't you seen the movies. If any moving object touches a fixed object everything explodes. It's basic physics, all defined in Geronimo's Third Law of Explodable Matter.

So of course when a 757 flies into a building, everything automatically goes kaboom.
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despite lots of childish attacks in this thread no one has debunked what i mentioned in the beginning;

-puffs of smoke often dozens of floors below the demolition.
-freefall speeds; both towards fell in 8-10 seconds which is physically impossible without explosives removing any resistance.
-"rivers of molten steel'' found at the base of the towers
molten steel seen dripping from one of towers.
-experts agree temperatures not hot enough to melt steel.
-multiple eye witness accounts of multiple explotions
(including video footage of ruble in the basement before any collapse-a fifty ton press demolished in the basement before any collapse)
-wtc building 7-a 47 story building mysteriously collapses exactly like a controlled demolition- which the official investigation is unable to explain.
-no steel skyscraper has ever or since collapsed due to fire despite much hotter and longer burning fires.
-all ruble(evidence) was quickly removed so no one could examine it.
-virtually all concrete was pulvarized to dust.
all three buildings fell symmetrically into their own footprint.
etc. etc. etc.
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***Hush,OBL does not really exist,that`s why he`s never been captured.;)



Actually OBL is just Elvis in disguise



There are probably people who actually would believe either of those two comments. :S



:D:D:D Judging by some of the bizarre arguments used to support these conspiracy theories, I think you are right. If people can buy into these ludicrous theories, it is no wonder that a large majority of North Americans still think pro wrestlers are really fighting.

Anyway I must cut this post short as there is a black helicopter overhead and I know for a fact it is monitoring our conversation.....they are on to us..every one of us on this thread!
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-all ruble(evidence) was quickly removed so no one could examine it.



I agree, that is very suspicious. Why would anyone want to steal Rubles? The way the Russian economy's been going they're practically worthless!

Your points have been answered, you just haven't been listening! Example, your 6th bullet point, about WTC-7. The article provided for you right at the beginning of the thread has a complete explanation of why and WTC-7 collapsed as a result of damage from falling debris.
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Actually, one theory I heard why the government blew up the WTC is because someone in the 96th floor found indisputable proof that we never landed on the moon and it was just some big hoax by NASA. It was going to be this massive conspiracy and the government wasn't going to be able to stop it and so to shut the guy up they created 9/11.

That's the straight up truth.
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1/4th of americans are retarded and won't beleive anything told to them.



nuts, I refuse to beleive (sic) you

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''The article provided for you right at the beginning of the thread has a complete explanation of why and WTC-7 collapsed as a result of damage from falling debris. '' -jakee

fema-''The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. ... Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue. ''

nist-admits its "best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. ...
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''Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro..''
''The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state-sponsored acts of terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil.''
''create an incident which has the appearance of an attack on U.S. facilities (GMO) in Cuba, thus providing an excuse for use of U.S. military might to overthrow the current government of Cuba



If i remember correctly, the guy that created this was let go. It definitely was not supported by the U.S government. Also, it was public information. That's how you got that info. An alibi? Maybe they let him go because the Govt was protecting itself? You would think that if this leaked out, then a much more grander 9/11 conspiracy would have leaked out with today's harder-to-keep-secret-because-of-technology World. It was easier keeping things secret yesterday than now.
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jakee

''The article provided for you right at the beginning of the thread has a complete explanation of why and WTC-7 collapsed as a result of damage from falling debris. '' -jakee

fema-''The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. ... Further research, investigation, and analyses [sic] are needed to resolve this issue. ''

nist-admits its "best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. ...



So what does anyone gain if your theory is correct?
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''The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.''


''The proposal was presented in a document entitled Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba,[1] a collection of draft memoranda written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The document was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara''
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more from operation northwood

''Destroying an unmanned drone masquerading as a commercial aircraft supposedly full of "college students off on a holiday". This proposal was the one supported by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.''

''Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type [sic] planes would be useful as complementary actions."
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PNAC or project for the new american century

bush and his group believe in imminent peak oil, meaning that world oil production is about to peak, they believe without ever increasing oil the american economy will collapse.

dick cheney 1999-''By some estimates, there will be an average of two-percent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead, along with, conservatively, a three-percent natural decline
in production from existing reserves.That means by 2010 we will need on the order of anadditional 50 million barrels a day.''

so their plan plan was to increase the military and take oil by force. but they concluded that the problem is
“The process of transformation,” the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.”

there's your motive and self justification.
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it's not that these engineers are part of a conspiracy its that just like most others are unwilling to even question the official story they didn't consider controlled demolition and so they came up with multiple explanations that cannot explain what happened.

no one disputes that the two official commitees appointed by the us gov. have been unable to explain building 7.
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