proof that 9/11 was planned by us gov.

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actually i began researching this material so that i could tell some idiot how stupid he was for believing stupid conspiracy theories but i obviously came to a different conclusion.

That's commendable. So this is really an Appeal to Complexity. You got to understand though that a lot of people here come from various backgrounds and experiences that relate to the points being debunked here. You got people that work with steel, in physics, ordinance disposals, burning aviation fuel on steel experiences, Govt employees, Military, aviators, those other Govt tyes, ect. ect.

The people writing these sites tend to be youngish and in College (that's what you go to college for, right? To get a Clue?) And their crap is being debunked by Thirty-somethings to Seventy-somethings that have a lot of experiences in their fields and/or got their pHd's or other Doctorates decades ago. Who are you going to beleive?

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[Stumpy 284]

I thought you solved it? It was the aliens, the black helicopters, hundreds of people who are covering it up with no leaks, yetis, the will of the FSM, the bermuda triangle and the tooth fairy.

Oh - and clinton got a BJ.

I must have been mistaken

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like i said dorbie you solved the mystery, it was a combination of radiation, exothermitc contributions and insulation that melted the steel.

Why misrepresent what I wrote again? Does it make you feel smarter to flagrantly distort what others write & use that distortion to ridicule them and dismiss sound argument that you cannot refute rationally?

I'd expect your brand of dishonest riddicule in a schoolyard pushing match. Debate the issues but don't lie about what I've written.

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nanook

steven e jones is a physicyst for 20 years or so and has come forward to support the controlled demolition theory and lost his job because of his position.

jeff king is an engineer from MIT who supports c.d.

Jim Hoffman is a software engineer

and many other reputable people

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

[billvon 2,990]

>jeff king is an engineer from MIT who supports c.d.

I had a floormate at MIT who was positive that the government was watching him, and that they had implanted a bug in his skull that sometimes controlled his actions. Don't know what became of him. Name wasn't Jeff though.

[nanook 1]

There are more credible people replying on this thread alone than all the people you have named from these sites.

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i think that jeff king is a research scientist employed by MIT which is slightly different then your "floormate''.
i only threw out these names because someone said that the only supporters of c.d. are young non-experts.

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

[vortexring 0]

I've been wondering if perhaps there may well be a common failing in the minds of conspiracy 'believers.'

Something they have in common. Some reduced area of their mental function.

Like in the vicinity of attention seeking?

But then, why are the theories so fascinating!!!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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...why are the theories so fascinating!!!

This thread is fascinating. Point after point has been debunked, yet the poster refuses to acknowledge that and instead asks his questions again hoping for answers that will fit his theory.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[skinnyflyer 0]

not a single point has been debunked

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

[vortexring 0]

People sometimes believe only what they wish to believe.

Mental!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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not a single point has been debunked

I hope that you are a troll and don't really believe that. You've yet to not have a point debunked.

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[tonyhays 86]

Then perhaps you should go reread billvon's posts.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[vortexring 0]

Here Skinny, are you really David Shayler, ex MI5, currently on a UK tour, assuring the British public the US Government are responsible for 9/11?

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[skinnyflyer 0]

yes vortexring

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

[vortexring 0]

I only ask, because he knows the reasons why all the rubble and debris were shipped off and sold to the Chinese. Obviously because the material was tainted with sulphour.

He's also aware 9 of the so called suicide bombers are actually alive!!

AND! He appeared on news night with Sky news claiming why were their no witnesses to the aircraft crashing into the Pentagon! And......

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[skinnyflyer 0]

like this;

''steel skyscrapers used to collapse often due to fires''

and then he gives an example of a skyscraper that didn't collapse.

without a single example of a skyscraper collapsing due to fire

all his posts are like this

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

[billvon 2,990]

>not a single point has been debunked

Time to post them all again! That will "prove" you are correct. Remember, repetition always trumps science.

[vortexring 0]

And I like your tenacity!

Good for you.

Now, get a haircut and a proper job.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[jcd11235 0]

Thanks.

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[skinnyflyer 0]

vortexring

''He's also aware 9 of the so called suicide bombers are actually alive!! ''

somewhere in this thread i posted links to bbc news report saying that at least six of the hijackers have come forward saying that they are still alive.

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

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billvon
you are the one who repeated the same ridiculous things again and again such as the example i just gave.

"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."
A. Sachs

[vortexring 0]

Come over to the UK soon, we'll go and give Davy a visit, he can brief us up.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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somewhere in this thread i posted links to bbc news report saying that at least six of the hijackers have come forward saying that they are still alive.

And John Mark Karr came forward and admitted to killing JonBenet Ramsey...hmmm...how did that turn out?

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[billvon 2,990]

>you are the one who repeated the same ridiculous things again
>and again such as the example i just gave.

See, tactics like that used to work in the olden timey days, when a writer could claim "there's not a single example of a steel building collapsing from fire, ever!" People might even believe the article; few people actually check on what they read in papers or magazines. Nowadays, though, readers just do a google search and they realize that the author is misinformed. It's a problem. Some potential answers:

-Start the always-popular semantics games. "It didn't collapse at all because it didn't collapse completely" is a nice attempt, but sorta weak.

-Claim that it's all a big coverup, and the other examples were plants.

-Change the subject completely. Say "yeah, but what about all that thermite?"