shropshire 0 #1 December 21, 2006 QuoteA US marine sergeant has been charged with multiple counts of murdering Iraqi civilians in Haditha, his lawyer has announced. clicky Doesn't sound too good.... if this report is accurate. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 December 21, 2006 Iraq Bomb Attack Targeting Laborers Kills Up to 63 38 bodies found in Baghdad, brings two-day total to 114 At least 10 die in attack on police Muslims slaughtering muslims. Doesn't sound too good... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #3 December 21, 2006 >Muslims slaughtering muslims. Doesn't sound too good... Why, you're right! Other people's bad behavior does excuse ours. I can't believe people are complaining about things like My Lai and Haditha when there are other people doing bad things in the world! Next thing you know, the liberals will be claiming that Saddam Hussein is a bad person. Compared to Stalin, he was an angel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #4 December 21, 2006 In the greater scheme of things, the killings in Haditha are statistically insignificant. That said, I think any soldiers guilty of misconduct should be fully prosecuted!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #5 December 21, 2006 QuoteNext thing you know, the liberals will be claiming that Saddam Hussein is a bad person. Compared to Stalin, he was an angel. Nah, Saddam just had a smaller population to work with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #6 December 21, 2006 QuoteIn the greater scheme of things, the killings in Haditha are statistically insignificant. Is that how you rationalize it away, as a rounding error? That's cold.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #7 December 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteIn the greater scheme of things, the killings in Haditha are statistically insignificant. Is that how you rationalize it away, as a rounding error? That's cold. Does "I think any soldiers guilty of misconduct should be fully prosecuted!!! " sound like rationalizing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #8 December 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIn the greater scheme of things, the killings in Haditha are statistically insignificant. Is that how you rationalize it away, as a rounding error? That's cold. Does "I think any soldiers guilty of misconduct should be fully prosecuted!!! " sound like rationalizing? You referred to the human beings (men, women, and children) who were murdered at Haditha as "statistically insignificant". Your post is perfectly clear. Whether you think the killers should be prosecuted or not doesn't mitigate your statement. That's cold. Psychopathic, even.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #9 December 21, 2006 So, you're saying that those killings were statistically significant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 December 21, 2006 Quote>Other people's bad behavior does excuse ours. I'll have to trust you that this claim was made in one of the links. I'm going home. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 December 21, 2006 Quote>Muslims slaughtering muslims. Doesn't sound too good... Why, you're right! Other people's bad behavior does excuse ours. I can't believe people are complaining about things like My Lai and Haditha when there are other people doing bad things in the world! Isn't it funny how the only murders that any liberals here concern themselves with are the few committed by U.S. soldiers? I guess all those others just aren't important. Who gives a damn about all those Muslims, as long as we get to hang the Americans! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #12 December 21, 2006 QuoteSo, you're saying that those killings were statistically significant? Sigh. Your statements in this thread speak for themselves. I'll let other people argue with you thanks.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 December 21, 2006 NO!!! They are ALL as significant as each other. Murder is just plain wrong, irrespective of who is committing or receiving the murderous act. Should this story be suppressed - No. Should the activities of the troops of the coalition be held up to higher standard than others - Yes. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #14 December 21, 2006 QuoteQuote>Muslims slaughtering muslims. Doesn't sound too good... Why, you're right! Other people's bad behavior does excuse ours. I can't believe people are complaining about things like My Lai and Haditha when there are other people doing bad things in the world! Isn't it funny how the only murders that any liberals here concern themselves with are the few committed by U.S. soldiers? I guess all those others just aren't important. Who gives a damn about all those Muslims, as long as we get to hang the Americans! It is reprehensible to use someone else's bad behavior as an excuse for our own. "We" invaded their country. We are supposed to be better than "them". If we aren't, we have no excuse for being there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #15 December 21, 2006 QuoteI guess all those others just aren't important. Who gives a damn about all those Muslims, as long as we get to hang the Americans! You're right!! Why isn't the government spending billions of dollars and using the armed forces to try and get these murdering muslim terrorists? Oh wait, we are. I guess we're OK to go ahead with trying those murdering Americans we find as well.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #16 December 22, 2006 >In the greater scheme of things, the killings in Haditha are statistically insignificant. Compared to the death toll in Iraq, the killings on 9/11 are insignificant too. But I, for one, am not going to forget them. Nor do I think you would forget if you knew people in the WTC (or in Haditha.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #17 December 22, 2006 >Isn't it funny how the only murders that any liberals here concern >themselves with are the few committed by U.S. soldiers? People with principles do their utmost to avoid killing innocent people. US soldiers represent the United States of America. When they murder innocent people in cold blood, that reflects poorly on US. It's bad when Iraqis kill Iraqis, or when Rwandans kill Rwandans. I can't prevent that, and am not responsible for it. I am a citizen of the United States of America, and I DO bear some responsibility for what my country does - because I vote for the government that operates the military. Isn't it funny how conservatives think that US soldiers do not represent the US, but Saudi terrorists represent Iraq? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #18 December 22, 2006 QuoteIt is reprehensible to use someone else's bad behavior as an excuse for our own. I'm not doing that. My comment was how the liberals don't even bother to comment upon, or even seem to care, about anyone else's bad behavior - only our own. It doesn't surprise me that you misinterpreted me in this way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #19 December 22, 2006 QuoteIsn't it funny how conservatives think that US soldiers do not represent the US, but Saudi terrorists represent Iraq? What's funny is how the liberals in this forum, like you and kallend, continuously misinterpret what the conservatives are saying. No one has said that U.S. soldiers don't represent America. No one has said that the terrorists are from Saudi Arabia, or that they represent Iraq. They do, however, represent part of the Muslim culture - the "religion of peace", which includes a culture of death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #20 December 22, 2006 I hope the report isn't accurate. I do believe though that more will be revealed during trial. When Marines get shot at, they bring on the pain, and I wholly expect that innocents may have been unwitting human shields. We'll see.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #21 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteIsn't it funny how conservatives think that US soldiers do not represent the US, but Saudi terrorists represent Iraq? What's funny is how the liberals in this forum, like you and kallend, continuously misinterpret what the conservatives are saying. No one has said that U.S. soldiers don't represent America. No one has said that the terrorists are from Saudi Arabia, or that they represent Iraq. They do, however, represent part of the Muslim culture - the "religion of peace", which includes a culture of death. No misinterpretation at all. Your views are crystal clear for all to see.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #22 December 22, 2006 >No one has said that U.S. soldiers don't represent America. Good! Then hopefully in the future you will not equate what terrorists in other countries do to what US soldiers do, or use one as an excuse/mitigation for the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 December 22, 2006 QuoteI hope the report isn't accurate. I do believe though that more will be revealed during trial. When Marines get shot at, they bring on the pain, and I wholly expect that innocents may have been unwitting human shields. We'll see. But Max the media and the liberal hate mongers would exclaim that the enemy would never stoop to using human shields! According to them only imperialistic forces of the US could do such a thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #24 December 22, 2006 QuoteMy comment was how the liberals don't even bother to comment upon, or even seem to care, about anyone else's bad behavior - only our own. IMO we need to get our own affairs in order before we go sticking our nose into the affairs of others. And if we ever do get our own affairs in order, that is still not justification to stick our nose into the affairs of others.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #25 December 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote>Muslims slaughtering muslims. Doesn't sound too good... Why, you're right! Other people's bad behavior does excuse ours. I can't believe people are complaining about things like My Lai and Haditha when there are other people doing bad things in the world! Isn't it funny how the only murders that any liberals here concern themselves with are the few committed by U.S. soldiers? I guess all those others just aren't important. Who gives a damn about all those Muslims, as long as we get to hang the Americans! It is reprehensible to use someone else's bad behavior as an excuse for our own. "We" invaded their country. We are supposed to be better than "them". If we aren't, we have no excuse for being there. Haditha is between Ramadi and Al Qa'im in the Al Anbar province. The guys who ambushed the Marines that day, and started shooting were, based on personal observation, not Iraqi, but Syrian. Don't confuse the secterian violence in Baghdad with insurgent activities in the Al Anbar province. Their only commonality is that the violence is happening at the same time, in the same country.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
