crwtom 0 #26 December 25, 2006 QuoteIf you actually faced the Almighty, what would you ask Him if you only had one question? here's another one: How is mental functionality handled when you into the afterlife? More specifically this breaks down into questions like the following: Suppose your mind and/or personality deteriorates before you die, due to brain trauma, drug abuse, oxygen starvation, Alzheimers, coma, etc. In what kind of state of mind will you go to heaven. As a mental vegetable as you were at the time of death, or will time somehow be turned back and the mind and personality of some earlier state. What about only mild deteriorations like your garden variety old age senility and grumpyness. Will they be elgible for spool backs of mental state of these are alowed. Or if the state of mind at the point of death is important how is that point defined. Definitions of death can vary enough in time to make a significant difference between the degree to which a brain has deteriorated as a result of oxygen loss. Or what about people who never have the chance to develop mentally? The more drastic cases being infants that die during or shortly after birth, without every gaining any undertanding of the world or any notion of self. Or people born with serious mental impariments such as, for example, Dow syndrome etc. Will they bumped up to some higher level of consciousness when they go to heaven or are they just out of luck? What about milder discrepancies among people in developing mentally. People who are gifted or priviledged enough to get some higher education or similar intellecutal experiences, as opposed to people who are trapped at more modest intelectual levels. Is there a program in heaven to bump eveyone to an IQ of, say, 145 and give everyone the same mellow sweet temper to create devine equality? Or will the maximal or the terminal intellectual state be used? Or does the afterlife experience not depend on your mental state? (That is "experince" would mean something mysteriously different which is not dependent on the ability to perceive stuff - the latter being a special type of mental ability) Would that mean you'd just be running around deliriously in heaven chanting hallelulia all the time with no intellectual stimulus otr ambition? What if someone finds that so boring and silly they want to die a second death? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #27 December 25, 2006 So now that we've created such a mess for ourselves, what do we do to fix it? ...and btw, Merry Solstice! :) linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #28 December 25, 2006 Hey, thank ya for the awesome mansion, got lost my first night here. So, is dinner at my place or yours? the cool shades cut down that bright light coming off ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #29 December 25, 2006 I would ask why eternal suffering in hell is neccessary. As an add on I would question why since pretty much any sin can be forgiven, why is it that the suicides are the only ones guaranteed to go. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #30 December 25, 2006 QuoteI would ask why eternal suffering in hell is neccessary. Because sin is "exceedingly sinful" in the eyes of God. If I raped and murdered your mother or wife, would you consider that to be wrong and deserving of punishment? How much punishment? How much more so do you think even what you would consider a minor infraction offends an infinitely holy & just God? Whether you agree with it or not, it is there. It is where God will send all lawbreakers. It's reasonable and just. Quote“It is because God’s wrath is real that His mercy is relevant. Unless you have a real wrath, a real anger, the Biblical concepts of long-suffering, of mercy, and of grace are robbed of their meaning.” --Ravi Zacharias QuoteAs an add on I would question why since pretty much any sin can be forgiven, Not every sin. Those who wait until their time comes and fail to repent and put their faith in the Savior will suffer "the second death” in hell. QuoteAnd so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Matthew 12:31-32 Quotewhy is it that the suicides are the only ones guaranteed to go. There is no Biblical basis for this. The Bible is very silent on the issue. I believe there are instances where one could possibly be forgiven suicide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #31 December 25, 2006 Who are you? Convince me. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #32 December 25, 2006 Uh, Paj? Hate to break it to you, you're not god Steve, my question, "So how does it work?"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #33 December 25, 2006 What's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? (I think that's the only question I really need to know the answer to. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
two40 0 #34 December 25, 2006 QuoteWhat's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? (I think that's the only question I really need to know the answer to. ) right on i can't believe no one yet wants to know whether we are the only planet with conscious living beings... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #35 December 25, 2006 Quotei can't believe no one yet wants to know whether we are the only planet with conscious living beings... ppppssst.... look at post #13 by IcarusNeededAAD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #36 December 26, 2006 Can I be God?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #37 December 26, 2006 QuoteUh, Paj? Hate to break it to you, you're not god I’m not trying to play God. It’s just that assumptions based on preconceived bias can lead to incorrect theological conclusions. I was just trying to correct with Biblical examples. It’s in the book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sweetmoose 0 #38 December 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteUh, Paj? Hate to break it to you, you're not god I’m not trying to play God. It’s just that assumptions based on preconceived bias can lead to incorrect theological conclusions. I was just trying to correct with Biblical examples. It’s in the book. Yeah, but these are questions for if you met god, not questions for the MEN who wrote the bible, and what they think about god.We die only once, but for such a very long time. I'll believe in ghosts when I catch one in my teeth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #39 December 26, 2006 QuoteWhat's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? (I think that's the only question I really need to know the answer to. )You know what's weird? When I saw Pulp Fiction I just assumed it was a briefcase full of money without even thinking about it. I mean, they're gangsters, right? I was surprised when I found out it was supposed to be a mystery. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #40 December 26, 2006 QuoteI would ask why eternal suffering in hell is neccessary. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because sin is "exceedingly sinful" in the eyes of God. If I raped and murdered your mother or wife, would you consider that to be wrong and deserving of punishment? How much punishment? How much more so do you think even what you would consider a minor infraction offends an infinitely holy & just God? Whether you agree with it or not, it is there. It is where God will send all lawbreakers. It's reasonable and just. It seems to me then that a justice system more in keeping with God's will should be as Draconian as possible. Death penalty for parking violations, for example. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #41 December 26, 2006 QuoteYeah, but these are questions for if you met god, not questions for the MEN who wrote the bible, and what they think about god. Quote"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." 2 Tim. 3:16-17 Quote"for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 2 Pet. 1:21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #42 December 26, 2006 QuoteIt seems to me then that a justice system more in keeping with God's will should be as Draconian as possible. Death penalty for parking violations, for example. The penalty for sin has not changed. The wages of sin is death. The God of the Old Testament is the same as the one of the New. The ultimate demonstration of his love, however, is that he is withholding judgment/wrath in order that as many as possible will repent and be saved. It is NOT God's will that any should perish. QuoteThe Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter3:9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #43 December 26, 2006 QuoteI hope for serious responses from believers and non-believers, but I doubt I'll receive it. I'm not trying to paint God as "christian" or anything else at this moment. I simply would like for you to be honest and tell me what you would ask God if you came face to face one day. This thread was meant to pose questions to a God, any God, not just your God."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #44 December 26, 2006 QuoteYou know what's weird? When I saw Pulp Fiction I just assumed it was a briefcase full of money without even thinking about it. I mean, they're gangsters, right? I thought it had heroin in it the first time I saw it. But by the end of the movie I realized that they never actually revealed what was in the briefcase, so it was bugging me. Hmm, and according to someone on Wikipedia, "the briefcase contained an orange lightbulb with a battery." Which makes perfect sense. So I guess I'll need to think of a new question for God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #45 December 26, 2006 "Hey Thor.............. I got this picture to put up, can I borrow your hammer?" (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #46 December 26, 2006 QuoteThis thread was meant to pose questions to a God, any God, not just your God. There is only one God. How about this... My God is the God of Ralph. This thread's purpose is so that you & I can ask my God, which I just made up in my head, called Ralph questions. You may happen to not believe in the God of Ralph. Yours is the flying spaghetti monster. You may want to ask it some questions in this thread. What is the point in that? How about this with regard to the differing religions (roadmaps to God). You & I are driving on an interstate with the goal of reaching Canada. At first, the scenery and landscape seem to fit. However, as we drive along, it starts to warm up, the land gets very flat, and we start to see palm trees. Then, we realize we’re heading South instead of North. If we keep driving, we’ll wind up in the water instead of the mountains. The fact that I really believe in the map doesn't make any difference. It's an incorrect map. In order to reach the intended destination, what must we do? Turn 180 degrees and head in the other direction, right? Christianity is radically and completely different from any other religion on the planet that you might follow or even make up for yourself. You're "God" may be the one true God or my "God' may be the one true God but they both can't be the one true God (or religion). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #47 December 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis thread was meant to pose questions to a God, any God, not just your God. There is only one God. Do you lack the capacity to understand that the questions are directed to a God, any God, and not necessarily your God? In case you have not noticed, you are not converting anyone, you are turning people away, you are doing your God a disservice."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #48 December 26, 2006 QuoteThere is only one God. Some people believe in more than one god. They are just as likely to be correct as you are. QuoteThe fact that I really believe in the map doesn't make any difference. Exactly. QuoteYou're "God" may be the one true God or my "God' may be the one true God but they both can't be the one true God (or religion). Any religion that claims to be the "one true religion" or to worship the "one true God" is teaching intolerance and arrogance. Doesn't sound like a good path to peace and serenity to me, which IMHO is what the goal of religion and/or spirituality should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,026 #49 December 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteThere is only one God. Some people believe in more than one god. They are just as likely to be correct as you are. QuoteThe fact that I really believe in the map doesn't make any difference. Exactly. QuoteYou're "God" may be the one true God or my "God' may be the one true God but they both can't be the one true God (or religion). Any religion that claims to be the "one true religion" or to worship the "one true God" is teaching intolerance and arrogance. Doesn't sound like a good path to peace and serenity to me, which IMHO is what the goal of religion and/or spirituality should be. If you truly believe, how can you acknowledge even the remotest possibility that someone else's god is the true god? Tolerance and ecumenism are signs of doubt.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #50 December 26, 2006 ouch (.)Y(.) 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Butters 0 #36 December 26, 2006 Can I be God?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #37 December 26, 2006 QuoteUh, Paj? Hate to break it to you, you're not god I’m not trying to play God. It’s just that assumptions based on preconceived bias can lead to incorrect theological conclusions. I was just trying to correct with Biblical examples. It’s in the book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetmoose 0 #38 December 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteUh, Paj? Hate to break it to you, you're not god I’m not trying to play God. It’s just that assumptions based on preconceived bias can lead to incorrect theological conclusions. I was just trying to correct with Biblical examples. It’s in the book. Yeah, but these are questions for if you met god, not questions for the MEN who wrote the bible, and what they think about god.We die only once, but for such a very long time. I'll believe in ghosts when I catch one in my teeth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #39 December 26, 2006 QuoteWhat's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? (I think that's the only question I really need to know the answer to. )You know what's weird? When I saw Pulp Fiction I just assumed it was a briefcase full of money without even thinking about it. I mean, they're gangsters, right? I was surprised when I found out it was supposed to be a mystery. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #40 December 26, 2006 QuoteI would ask why eternal suffering in hell is neccessary. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because sin is "exceedingly sinful" in the eyes of God. If I raped and murdered your mother or wife, would you consider that to be wrong and deserving of punishment? How much punishment? How much more so do you think even what you would consider a minor infraction offends an infinitely holy & just God? Whether you agree with it or not, it is there. It is where God will send all lawbreakers. It's reasonable and just. It seems to me then that a justice system more in keeping with God's will should be as Draconian as possible. Death penalty for parking violations, for example. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #41 December 26, 2006 QuoteYeah, but these are questions for if you met god, not questions for the MEN who wrote the bible, and what they think about god. Quote"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." 2 Tim. 3:16-17 Quote"for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 2 Pet. 1:21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #42 December 26, 2006 QuoteIt seems to me then that a justice system more in keeping with God's will should be as Draconian as possible. Death penalty for parking violations, for example. The penalty for sin has not changed. The wages of sin is death. The God of the Old Testament is the same as the one of the New. The ultimate demonstration of his love, however, is that he is withholding judgment/wrath in order that as many as possible will repent and be saved. It is NOT God's will that any should perish. QuoteThe Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter3:9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #43 December 26, 2006 QuoteI hope for serious responses from believers and non-believers, but I doubt I'll receive it. I'm not trying to paint God as "christian" or anything else at this moment. I simply would like for you to be honest and tell me what you would ask God if you came face to face one day. This thread was meant to pose questions to a God, any God, not just your God."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #44 December 26, 2006 QuoteYou know what's weird? When I saw Pulp Fiction I just assumed it was a briefcase full of money without even thinking about it. I mean, they're gangsters, right? I thought it had heroin in it the first time I saw it. But by the end of the movie I realized that they never actually revealed what was in the briefcase, so it was bugging me. Hmm, and according to someone on Wikipedia, "the briefcase contained an orange lightbulb with a battery." Which makes perfect sense. So I guess I'll need to think of a new question for God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #45 December 26, 2006 "Hey Thor.............. I got this picture to put up, can I borrow your hammer?" (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #46 December 26, 2006 QuoteThis thread was meant to pose questions to a God, any God, not just your God. There is only one God. How about this... My God is the God of Ralph. This thread's purpose is so that you & I can ask my God, which I just made up in my head, called Ralph questions. You may happen to not believe in the God of Ralph. Yours is the flying spaghetti monster. You may want to ask it some questions in this thread. What is the point in that? How about this with regard to the differing religions (roadmaps to God). You & I are driving on an interstate with the goal of reaching Canada. At first, the scenery and landscape seem to fit. However, as we drive along, it starts to warm up, the land gets very flat, and we start to see palm trees. Then, we realize we’re heading South instead of North. If we keep driving, we’ll wind up in the water instead of the mountains. The fact that I really believe in the map doesn't make any difference. It's an incorrect map. In order to reach the intended destination, what must we do? Turn 180 degrees and head in the other direction, right? Christianity is radically and completely different from any other religion on the planet that you might follow or even make up for yourself. You're "God" may be the one true God or my "God' may be the one true God but they both can't be the one true God (or religion). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #47 December 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis thread was meant to pose questions to a God, any God, not just your God. There is only one God. Do you lack the capacity to understand that the questions are directed to a God, any God, and not necessarily your God? In case you have not noticed, you are not converting anyone, you are turning people away, you are doing your God a disservice."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #48 December 26, 2006 QuoteThere is only one God. Some people believe in more than one god. They are just as likely to be correct as you are. QuoteThe fact that I really believe in the map doesn't make any difference. Exactly. QuoteYou're "God" may be the one true God or my "God' may be the one true God but they both can't be the one true God (or religion). Any religion that claims to be the "one true religion" or to worship the "one true God" is teaching intolerance and arrogance. Doesn't sound like a good path to peace and serenity to me, which IMHO is what the goal of religion and/or spirituality should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #49 December 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteThere is only one God. Some people believe in more than one god. They are just as likely to be correct as you are. QuoteThe fact that I really believe in the map doesn't make any difference. Exactly. QuoteYou're "God" may be the one true God or my "God' may be the one true God but they both can't be the one true God (or religion). Any religion that claims to be the "one true religion" or to worship the "one true God" is teaching intolerance and arrogance. Doesn't sound like a good path to peace and serenity to me, which IMHO is what the goal of religion and/or spirituality should be. If you truly believe, how can you acknowledge even the remotest possibility that someone else's god is the true god? Tolerance and ecumenism are signs of doubt.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #50 December 26, 2006 ouch (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
