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QuoteQuoteDoes the law allow you to write down the tag number and just mail them a ticket?
I really wish the govt. would pass a law that makes the fine for running red light very high. Heck, in my area it's a larger fine for violating HOV restrictions than running a red light.
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The city I recently moved from, wanted to put cameras at intersections where folks were running red-lights and stop-signs all too often. The purpose: to get tag numbers and send the owner of the vehicle a ticket. Those folks, went nuts! Letters were written to the editor of the local newspaper stating their civil rights would be violated and the like. Personally, I think, it's a great idea! It answers the question: 'Where's a cop, when you need one?'
Chuck
A fine idea (which they do use in some cities), but my concern is this: the offender in a moving violation is the driver, not the owner. If the camera system photos both the license plate AND the driver's face, that's fine with me. But if the camera only identifies the car and plate, and not the actual driver, then - in my ever-so-humble (as always) opinon - a presumption that the owner is also the driver is improper.
In this area, a red light camera ticket is treated the same way a parking ticket. The owner of a car that runs a red light is not charged with a moving violation and no points are put on his driving record. The owner of the vehicle should know who was driving on that day and time and just like a parking ticket, can collect the fine from them.
Originally, I had a problem with red light camera's, but after almost being killed by someone running a red light, my views have changed. I actually have more of a problem with a camera that takes a picture of the drivers face than I do with one that just takes a picture of the car and tag number. YMMV.
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Andy9o8 2
QuoteIn the UK we issue fines to the registered keeper of the vehicle. If they can't prove someone else was driving, which would be required by law to comply with S170 of the Road Traffic Act the legal responsibilty falls to the owner.
The problem I have with that is that it seems to shift the initial burden of proof to the defendant, rather than having it on the prosecution. Defendants should never have the initial burden of proving innocence; the prosecution should always have the initial burden of proving guilt.
No offense, but the more I learn about UK law, the more thankful I am for the US Constitution.
Andy9o8 2
QuoteIn this area, a red light camera ticket is treated the same way a parking ticket. The owner of a car that runs a red light is not charged with a moving violation and no points are put on his driving record.
That approach addresses some of my concern. Not entirely so, but it's a compromise.
This is why one of our chief constables got 2 speeding fines when one of his staff drove through a speed camera and failed to fill out the vehicle log book as being the driver that shift
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