rushmc 23 #76 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote I for one am glad he is the President (for this topic anyway) The Churchhill of our time I think Winnie must be spinning in his grave at the thought. No, more likely and attaboy I think!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #77 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I for one am glad he is the President (for this topic anyway) The Churchhill of our time I think Winnie must be spinning in his grave at the thought. No, more likely and attaboy I think! Maybe you should take that look in the mirror.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #78 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I for one am glad he is the President (for this topic anyway) The Churchhill of our time I think Winnie must be spinning in his grave at the thought. No, more likely and attaboy I think! Maybe you should take that look in the mirror. OOOoooohhhhhhhh PA time huh? Nnnnniiiiiicccccceeee kallend, very nice."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #79 January 12, 2007 QuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #80 January 12, 2007 QuoteGeorge W. Bush = The Churchill of our time Oh. My. God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #81 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Don't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #82 January 12, 2007 Quote>At this point Ted Kennedy could run for president and win on the simple platform "I'm not Bush." I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #83 January 12, 2007 QuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #84 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. I believe them as you do. The difference, I do not cherry pick and take out of context the report. You must be to support your assurtion"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #85 January 12, 2007 >I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate > on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - > I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. Yep. And the democrats will say "vote for the party of xxxx" (and xxxx will basically mean "not the party of Bush.") And the republicans will say "vote for a new tomorrow" (and suggest that their guy will be nothing like Bush.) BTW I assume you meant to say "presidential ballot" but I like "presidential wallow" a lot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #86 January 12, 2007 QuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #87 January 12, 2007 I had another thought on the matter, but unfortunately it involves Congress. I suggest that we immediately implement a war tax to pay for this fiasco. The amount should be easy enough to figure considering that Bush has kept most of it off budget using "emergency" supplemental requests. Secondly, and this is an old idea, we take the DoD off budget and fund it like we do Social Security.Quote I'd like the expense to show up on our pay stubs. Maybe then people will start holding government accountable for the money we give them and for their propensity to wage "wars" of choice. Maybe we could start by holding the govt. accountable for my retirement money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #88 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. Remember the letter that told of how they were being devastated. They have also admitted that they think Iraq is the central front in their war against the west.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #89 January 12, 2007 >I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #90 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Great leaders do what is right. Not what is easy. Many any sense to you? Not BS, the major violence is in a very SMALL part of the country. But I believe you don't care about the facts........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #91 January 12, 2007 >The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #92 January 12, 2007 Quote>I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. ...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #93 January 12, 2007 Quote...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response... Then why did you give it one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #94 January 12, 2007 QuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #95 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #96 January 12, 2007 Quote>The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. I don't think our intelligence services are willing to just give it a miss and ignore it. Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into thinking that the war is causing them great harm?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #97 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. I make my share of sweeping statements, but speaking for the entire world is not one I've made yet.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #98 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company. "They think I'm crazy, but I know better. It is not I who am crazy, it is I who am MAD! Can't you hear them? Can't you see the crowds? Oh, my beloved ice cream bar. How I love to lick your creamy center! And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering! You're not like the others, you like the same things I do! Wax paper, boiled football leather- DOG BREATH! We're not hitch-hiking anymore! We're riding!... Oh no! I know what you want! You've coveted my ice cream bar! No you don't! You can't take it from me now! I've had it ever since I was a child. Everywhere I go, people always try to take it from me! Why won't they leave.. me.. ALOOONNNNNE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #99 January 12, 2007 >Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into >thinking that the war is causing them great harm? To get more US soldiers into the best recruiting/training ground they have ever seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #100 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Maybe he IS Barbara, posting under a pseudonym.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 4 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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kallend 2,106 #77 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I for one am glad he is the President (for this topic anyway) The Churchhill of our time I think Winnie must be spinning in his grave at the thought. No, more likely and attaboy I think! Maybe you should take that look in the mirror.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #78 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I for one am glad he is the President (for this topic anyway) The Churchhill of our time I think Winnie must be spinning in his grave at the thought. No, more likely and attaboy I think! Maybe you should take that look in the mirror. OOOoooohhhhhhhh PA time huh? Nnnnniiiiiicccccceeee kallend, very nice."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #79 January 12, 2007 QuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #80 January 12, 2007 QuoteGeorge W. Bush = The Churchill of our time Oh. My. God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #81 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Don't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #82 January 12, 2007 Quote>At this point Ted Kennedy could run for president and win on the simple platform "I'm not Bush." I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #83 January 12, 2007 QuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #84 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. I believe them as you do. The difference, I do not cherry pick and take out of context the report. You must be to support your assurtion"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #85 January 12, 2007 >I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate > on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - > I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. Yep. And the democrats will say "vote for the party of xxxx" (and xxxx will basically mean "not the party of Bush.") And the republicans will say "vote for a new tomorrow" (and suggest that their guy will be nothing like Bush.) BTW I assume you meant to say "presidential ballot" but I like "presidential wallow" a lot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #86 January 12, 2007 QuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #87 January 12, 2007 I had another thought on the matter, but unfortunately it involves Congress. I suggest that we immediately implement a war tax to pay for this fiasco. The amount should be easy enough to figure considering that Bush has kept most of it off budget using "emergency" supplemental requests. Secondly, and this is an old idea, we take the DoD off budget and fund it like we do Social Security.Quote I'd like the expense to show up on our pay stubs. Maybe then people will start holding government accountable for the money we give them and for their propensity to wage "wars" of choice. Maybe we could start by holding the govt. accountable for my retirement money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #88 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. Remember the letter that told of how they were being devastated. They have also admitted that they think Iraq is the central front in their war against the west.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #89 January 12, 2007 >I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #90 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Great leaders do what is right. Not what is easy. Many any sense to you? Not BS, the major violence is in a very SMALL part of the country. But I believe you don't care about the facts........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #91 January 12, 2007 >The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #92 January 12, 2007 Quote>I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. ...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #93 January 12, 2007 Quote...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response... Then why did you give it one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #94 January 12, 2007 QuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #95 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #96 January 12, 2007 Quote>The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. I don't think our intelligence services are willing to just give it a miss and ignore it. Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into thinking that the war is causing them great harm?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #97 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. I make my share of sweeping statements, but speaking for the entire world is not one I've made yet.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #98 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company. "They think I'm crazy, but I know better. It is not I who am crazy, it is I who am MAD! Can't you hear them? Can't you see the crowds? Oh, my beloved ice cream bar. How I love to lick your creamy center! And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering! You're not like the others, you like the same things I do! Wax paper, boiled football leather- DOG BREATH! We're not hitch-hiking anymore! We're riding!... Oh no! I know what you want! You've coveted my ice cream bar! No you don't! You can't take it from me now! I've had it ever since I was a child. Everywhere I go, people always try to take it from me! Why won't they leave.. me.. ALOOONNNNNE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #99 January 12, 2007 >Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into >thinking that the war is causing them great harm? To get more US soldiers into the best recruiting/training ground they have ever seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #100 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Maybe he IS Barbara, posting under a pseudonym.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 4 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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rushmc 23 #78 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I for one am glad he is the President (for this topic anyway) The Churchhill of our time I think Winnie must be spinning in his grave at the thought. No, more likely and attaboy I think! Maybe you should take that look in the mirror. OOOoooohhhhhhhh PA time huh? Nnnnniiiiiicccccceeee kallend, very nice."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #79 January 12, 2007 QuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #80 January 12, 2007 QuoteGeorge W. Bush = The Churchill of our time Oh. My. God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #81 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Don't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #82 January 12, 2007 Quote>At this point Ted Kennedy could run for president and win on the simple platform "I'm not Bush." I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #83 January 12, 2007 QuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #84 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. I believe them as you do. The difference, I do not cherry pick and take out of context the report. You must be to support your assurtion"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #85 January 12, 2007 >I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate > on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - > I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. Yep. And the democrats will say "vote for the party of xxxx" (and xxxx will basically mean "not the party of Bush.") And the republicans will say "vote for a new tomorrow" (and suggest that their guy will be nothing like Bush.) BTW I assume you meant to say "presidential ballot" but I like "presidential wallow" a lot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #86 January 12, 2007 QuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #87 January 12, 2007 I had another thought on the matter, but unfortunately it involves Congress. I suggest that we immediately implement a war tax to pay for this fiasco. The amount should be easy enough to figure considering that Bush has kept most of it off budget using "emergency" supplemental requests. Secondly, and this is an old idea, we take the DoD off budget and fund it like we do Social Security.Quote I'd like the expense to show up on our pay stubs. Maybe then people will start holding government accountable for the money we give them and for their propensity to wage "wars" of choice. Maybe we could start by holding the govt. accountable for my retirement money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #88 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. Remember the letter that told of how they were being devastated. They have also admitted that they think Iraq is the central front in their war against the west.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #89 January 12, 2007 >I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #90 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Great leaders do what is right. Not what is easy. Many any sense to you? Not BS, the major violence is in a very SMALL part of the country. But I believe you don't care about the facts........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #91 January 12, 2007 >The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #92 January 12, 2007 Quote>I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. ...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #93 January 12, 2007 Quote...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response... Then why did you give it one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #94 January 12, 2007 QuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #95 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #96 January 12, 2007 Quote>The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. I don't think our intelligence services are willing to just give it a miss and ignore it. Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into thinking that the war is causing them great harm?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #97 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. I make my share of sweeping statements, but speaking for the entire world is not one I've made yet.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #98 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company. "They think I'm crazy, but I know better. It is not I who am crazy, it is I who am MAD! Can't you hear them? Can't you see the crowds? Oh, my beloved ice cream bar. How I love to lick your creamy center! And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering! You're not like the others, you like the same things I do! Wax paper, boiled football leather- DOG BREATH! We're not hitch-hiking anymore! We're riding!... Oh no! I know what you want! You've coveted my ice cream bar! No you don't! You can't take it from me now! I've had it ever since I was a child. Everywhere I go, people always try to take it from me! Why won't they leave.. me.. ALOOONNNNNE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,073 #99 January 12, 2007 >Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into >thinking that the war is causing them great harm? To get more US soldiers into the best recruiting/training ground they have ever seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #100 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Maybe he IS Barbara, posting under a pseudonym.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 4 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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SkyDekker 1,465 #79 January 12, 2007 QuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #80 January 12, 2007 QuoteGeorge W. Bush = The Churchill of our time Oh. My. God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #81 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed Don't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #82 January 12, 2007 Quote>At this point Ted Kennedy could run for president and win on the simple platform "I'm not Bush." I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #83 January 12, 2007 QuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #84 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteDon't by it. Just a story for the agenda driven. Concentrated them yes. Short term impact yes. Long term change? nope Funny how you believe your intelligence agencies when it supports Bush, but you don't believe those same agencies when it doesn't support him. Your adoration for this man is almost scary. I believe them as you do. The difference, I do not cherry pick and take out of context the report. You must be to support your assurtion"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #85 January 12, 2007 >I'd like to step out on a limb and predict that every single candidate > on the next presidential ballow will be able to say "I'm not Bush" - > I'd hope the DNC will do better than Teddy. The Reps too. Yep. And the democrats will say "vote for the party of xxxx" (and xxxx will basically mean "not the party of Bush.") And the republicans will say "vote for a new tomorrow" (and suggest that their guy will be nothing like Bush.) BTW I assume you meant to say "presidential ballot" but I like "presidential wallow" a lot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #86 January 12, 2007 QuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #87 January 12, 2007 I had another thought on the matter, but unfortunately it involves Congress. I suggest that we immediately implement a war tax to pay for this fiasco. The amount should be easy enough to figure considering that Bush has kept most of it off budget using "emergency" supplemental requests. Secondly, and this is an old idea, we take the DoD off budget and fund it like we do Social Security.Quote I'd like the expense to show up on our pay stubs. Maybe then people will start holding government accountable for the money we give them and for their propensity to wage "wars" of choice. Maybe we could start by holding the govt. accountable for my retirement money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #88 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe Islamofacists are going to keep trying to kill us. Going into Iraq has not changed that. Actually going into Iraq has changed that.....it created more of them and made their drive stronger. attaboy indeed The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. Remember the letter that told of how they were being devastated. They have also admitted that they think Iraq is the central front in their war against the west.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #89 January 12, 2007 >I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #90 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow about because it is the right thing to do? The major violence over there is in a very small part of the country. (where the media likes to go) the rest of the country is realativily stable and calm. While there have been spikes the trend for attacks and violence have been dropping for both US and Iraqis. One place really left to clean up so why not go and do it? If there's only one place left to really clean up, why not just send all of our current troops to it? Oh, right, because that was bullshit. When you have a failing strategy, "more" usually isn't an improvement. That will just result in more US casualties. And the entire country is against it, so again it begs the question - Why? Off topic, but the same day Bush was giving us this brilliant new strategy (MoreTM), Arnold was putting out a pretty ambitious platform goals of lower emissions and universal health care in California. I think he's angling for VP. Great leaders do what is right. Not what is easy. Many any sense to you? Not BS, the major violence is in a very SMALL part of the country. But I believe you don't care about the facts........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #91 January 12, 2007 >The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #92 January 12, 2007 Quote>I believe them as you do. Then you must believe that terrorist attacks are up, and there is more terrorism overall since we invaded. Our own State Department has reported that there are more terrorist attacks than ever before - even if you exclude Iraq. So we're not "sucking terrorists into Iraq." We are breeding them and they are spreading. Or, if you look hard enough, I'm sure you can cherry-pick a few tidbits from the pro-Bush sections of the media, and try to make a case that we're winning in Iraq, saving the planet from terrorism, not harming anyone in the process, and bringing peace and love to all countries of the world. But like a famous man once said - you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to all of the people all of the time. And people are catching on to the lies. ...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #93 January 12, 2007 Quote...this post is bs in total....... not worth a response... Then why did you give it one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #94 January 12, 2007 QuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #95 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #96 January 12, 2007 Quote>The words of our enemies do not tell the same story. I'm thinking perhaps we should rely more on our own intelligence and not believe the stuff our enemies let us find. I don't think our intelligence services are willing to just give it a miss and ignore it. Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into thinking that the war is causing them great harm?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #97 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. I make my share of sweeping statements, but speaking for the entire world is not one I've made yet.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #98 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Then I am in great company. "They think I'm crazy, but I know better. It is not I who am crazy, it is I who am MAD! Can't you hear them? Can't you see the crowds? Oh, my beloved ice cream bar. How I love to lick your creamy center! And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering! You're not like the others, you like the same things I do! Wax paper, boiled football leather- DOG BREATH! We're not hitch-hiking anymore! We're riding!... Oh no! I know what you want! You've coveted my ice cream bar! No you don't! You can't take it from me now! I've had it ever since I was a child. Everywhere I go, people always try to take it from me! Why won't they leave.. me.. ALOOONNNNNE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #99 January 12, 2007 >Is there a scenario that explains why they would want to trick us into >thinking that the war is causing them great harm? To get more US soldiers into the best recruiting/training ground they have ever seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #100 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteGreat leaders Aside from Dubya's mother, you are the only person on the PLANET who believes he's either a great leader or worthy of a comparison to Winston Churchill. My God. Maybe he IS Barbara, posting under a pseudonym.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
