If the president could stand for a third term...

[DaVinci 0]

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The article was written in 2003... I think you might find a few things have changed in peoples perceptions..

So maybe he changed his mind about the WMD and martial law issue as well? Why is one held to equal gold (the one you support), but the other is out dated (the one you dislike)? All in the SAME article from the SAME man?

[tbrown 26]

I'm just surprised he hasn't tried to amend the Constitution so he could run a third time. Failing that, he might still suspend the Constitution or at least the general election, in the name of national security, because "terrorists" are plotting to run for office, or the Dems are a "pro terrorist" party or some such excuse.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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And what are you goiong to say AFTER this actually happens????

I would move.

So you could join Barbara Streisand, Robert Altman, Eddie Vedder, Pierre Salinger and Cher, who all promised to leave the country if Bush won in 2000.

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If what Amazon wrote comes true ...

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He (George W. Bush) will have to stay ... MArtial Law... and no elections.

... then I bet alot of people would move. (Possibly even you.)

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[lawrocket 3]

Naw. I've taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies - foreign and domestic.

I suppose I'd have to stay here and do what I could through my profession.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Amazon 7]

I think .. and truely believe that this man and his cronies.. are fully capable of doing exactly that... I pray it does not happen.. but I believe it will. There WILL be a terrorist attack... on our soil.. and it will be the catylist for a country that will disgust most of us. GOD help us.

( but there are some here who will support this.. and wallow in it.. because they will be part of the in-group.... please refer back to college psycology)

[jumprunner 0]

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Naw. I've taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies - foreign and domestic.

I suppose I'd have to stay here and do what I could through my profession.

Ummm, are you, by any chance, "The Professional"?

Gee, we may just have a job for you.

[Michele 1]

Jeanne, I get totally that you honestly think this is a possibility - perhaps even a probability. But...how would this happen? What would be the responses of Congress and the Senate? How do they figure into it? I'm not belittling you, I'm indeed curious.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Amazon 7]

It is untrodden ground in this country.. but only sorrow and turmoil can follow if these events come to pass. It has happened in other countries.

It will happen after any major attack inside this country. MArtial Law WILL be declared.... to protect the American people from the evildoers. Some will go along with it gleefully for personal gain.. some will go along with it out of fear of consequences.... Some will fight it.... This President has as much if not more personal paranoia than did President Nixon.. he will see ANY form of dissent as being against HIM PERSONALLY. Hopefully those americans who do not support his grab for power will be seen as the TRUE patriots... fighting against a new found tyranny amoung us.

[TheAnvil 0]

It would depend on against whom he was running. Against Sen. Clinton, he'd have my vote.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[lawrocket 3]

I do believe that you are overstating it.

What does martial law mean to you? Does it mean the US Military maintaining order? Well, Posse Comitatus stands in the way of that.

Does it mean suspension of the writ of habeus corpus? Well, that may be something different. Do you envision it being localized?

Let's say an epidemic occurs in Los Angeles? Would it be prudent for the federal government to quarantine the greater LA basin? That would necessarily involve the suspension of the Privileges and Immunities clause, etc.

Or, is your vision of martial law more similar to he massive deployment of troops into all urban centers to arrest or execute on sight all persons in the street after curfew?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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It is untrodden ground in this country.. but only sorrow and turmoil can follow if these events come to pass. It has happened in other countries.

It will happen after any major attack inside this country. MArtial Law WILL be declared.... to protect the American people from the evildoers. Some will go along with it gleefully for personal gain.. some will go along with it out of fear of consequences.... Some will fight it.... This President has as much if not more personal paranoia than did President Nixon.. he will see ANY form of dissent as being against HIM PERSONALLY. Hopefully those americans who do not support his grab for power will be seen as the TRUE patriots... fighting against a new found tyranny amoung us.

Personal paranoia? How many members of his staff / associates have ended up dead under suspicious circumstances, again??

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Amazon 7]

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Or, is your vision of martial law more similar to he massive deployment of troops into all urban centers to arrest or execute on sight all persons in the street after curfew?

I have been in that before... I was in Milwaukee WI during the race riots after the death of MLK.. and in LA during the Riots in the 90's... its kind of bizarre to see the military in the streets with machine guns... and going on patrols along the streets in full combat gear and moving as you see them doing currently where they are deployed( at the time I flashed on scenes of Brit Patrols in the streets of Belfast that were being shown on TV at the time)

But remember they will be there to "protect us"...... of course that will be the excuse used.

[Amazon 7]

Ah.. ok.. we now have the obligatory Clinton got a blow job and then killed off his advisors to cover it up... sheesh.

[lawrocket 3]

I disagree with martial law - it's the main reason I didn't like Lincoln.

I can see legitimate uses for it - just because it's legitimate doesn't mean I agree with it.

You know I am not an advocate for the Bush Administration. But I do not think that they would go as far as you think they would.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Amazon 7]

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html

In strict dictionary terms, martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority. When we say a region or country is "under martial law," we mean to say that the military is in control of the area, that it acts as the police, as the courts, as the legislature. The degree of control might vary - a nation may have a civilian legislature but have the courts administered by the military. Or the legislature and courts may operate under civilian control with a military ruler. In each case, martial law is in effect, even if it is not called "martial law."

When a top General lets it slip what will happen WHEN the next terrorist attack occurs.... the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end. I do NOT put it past this group in the Whitehouse to go where even Lincoln did not go.

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Ah.. ok.. we now have the obligatory Clinton got a blow job and then killed off his advisors to cover it up... sheesh.

Ron Brown had nothing to do with the blowjob. HE was involved in a corruption investigation and on the brink of making a deal that would have implicated the sitting POTUS.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[lawrocket 3]

I equate it with the suspension of habeus corpus. Obviously, we have that with the situation in Gitmo. We are on the way there, I'll admit. But still, I do not believe that your vision will occur.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Amazon 7]

Time will tell... Luckily I have lived a fairly full life.... and do not have all that much more time on this earth. I do not want to live under a dictatorship. MANY of you though... will be living with the consequences of this incompetence for a VERY long time.

[DaVinci 0]

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I have been in that before... I was in Milwaukee WI during the race riots after the death of MLK.. and in LA during the Riots in the 90's..

OMG...It has already happend?!?!?!?! OK< not really.

I can see after a serious attack that the SAME thing you just wrote about happens again. I would not support anything above that.

Lawrocket...you took an oath to defend the Constitution if the President tried a power grab like that it would be unconstitutional and I would have a real issue with it...wouldn't you?

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he will see ANY form of dissent as being against HIM PERSONALLY.

Do you think he keeps an "enemies list"?

Nixon did
Hillary does

(Homer Simpson did, but I'm sure it was a mockery of Nixon)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Butters 0]

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Naw. I've taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies - foreign and domestic.

I suppose I'd have to stay here and do what I could through my profession.

If you can still defend the Constitution than the system has not failed completely (I meant to state that I would move when the system has failed completely as Amazon suggests.)

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Time will tell... Luckily I have lived a fairly full life.... and do not have all that much more time on this earth. I do not want to live under a dictatorship. MANY of you though... will be living with the consequences of this incompetence for a VERY long time.

You believe that everything that is done to protect us is actually done to control us. (This is apparent with your statements regarding the military and police.) You are extremely pessimistic and have yet to supply proof or rational logic and reasoning to defend your statements. Why should anyone listen to you anymore than the man standing on the corner proclaiming that the apocalypse is upon us?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[rehmwa 2]

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Why should anyone listen to you anymore than the man standing on the corner proclaiming that the apocalypse is upon us?

That man on the corner is entertaining in his own way and provides perspective relative to reasonable viewpoints.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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Why should anyone listen to you anymore than the man standing on the corner proclaiming that the apocalypse is upon us?

Hey, you don't have to believe predictions of disaster. If you think the Bush people will leave, hang around and see.

Some left Germany early and their friends laughed. Then later the friends died.

In other times and places people have evacuated unnecessarily.

Myself? I'm gone. Hope it turns out ok for ya.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

[NCclimber 0]

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Hey, you don't have to believe predictions of disaster. If you think the Bush people will leave, hang around and see.

Some left Germany early and their friends laughed. Then later the friends died.

What a fitting comparison.

[Butters 0]

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Some left Germany early and their friends laughed. Then later the friends died.

Have you bothered to compare the speeches made by Adolph Hitler and George Bush?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch