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kallend 2,106
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As you do, when we talk about a decade or more of time and you cherry-pick ONE YEAR to try to claim that it doesn't work.
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Supply the data to prove your point. I provided THE MOST RECENT FBI DATA and PROVED mine.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend 2,106
You're just pissed because I PROVED my point by supplying actual FACTS rather than NRA myths, and you can't contradict them.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend 2,106
QuoteQuoteYou are VERY inconsistent
Inconsistent?
You mean like:QuoteIf you are trying to make a point, the burden is on you to provide supporting evidence, not on me.
Want to make a point, then YOU provide the data.
andQuoteYou can look it up for yourself like I did - the data are all in the public domain. Just takes a little WORK. You can do it!
orQuoteSucks to have to do your own research, doesn't it?
It puts this Kallend post in context.QuoteI am a role model and mentor for young people who want to lead productive lives
Being a role model for young people does not include doing their homework for them, Sunshine. You want to make a point, you provide your own data.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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You're just pissed because I PROVED my point by supplying actual FACTS rather than NRA myths, and you can't contradict them.
This is bullshit!!! You did not supply the "actual facts". You merely claimed that had been posted at some time in the past.
kallend 2,106
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You're just pissed because I PROVED my point by supplying actual FACTS rather than NRA myths, and you can't contradict them.
This is bullshit!!! You did not supply the "actual facts". You merely claimed that had been posted at some time in the past.
What reality are you living in?
www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2651942#2651942
www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2651736#2651736
www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2653137#2653137
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
QuoteBeing a role model for young people does not include doing their homework for them, Sunshine. You want to make a point, you provide your own data.
True, but I think most people think good role models should demonstrate favorable characteristics like honesty, straightforwardness, fair-mindedness and be willing to admit when they are in the wrong (instead of twisting the discussion whenever those errors are exposed).
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kallend 2,106
QuoteQuoteBeing a role model for young people does not include doing their homework for them, Sunshine. You want to make a point, you provide your own data.
True, but I think most people think good role models should demonstrate favorable characteristics like honesty, straightforwardness, fair-mindedness and be willing to admit when they are in the wrong (instead of twisting the discussion whenever those errors are exposed).
Role Models...
So you're now admitting you are wrong about the facts I supplied?
I have yet to see any data supplied by you, just sniping and whining.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend 2,106
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There is one interesting thing to remember. England has a far higher violent crime rate, and a higher overall crime rate than the US. The one place the US far outstrips the UK is in homicides. While far more brits, scots, irish, etc will be victims of a serious crime, the number of Americans killed per population is higher.
1. What do you mean by FAR higher?
2. You have data to PROVE it?
3. If it's true, then the argument that the US has a culture of violence that accounts for its higher homicide rate is clearly false.
4. You need to be less confused about who you are talking about; is it England, Scotland, Ireland, Britain or the UK?
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In 2004, the US Dept. of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics released “Cross-National Studies in Crime and Justice,” which not only examined what might be responsible for the decline in U.S. crime rates but also put the U.S. crime rate in an international context, comparing U.S. data with that from England and Wales, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, Scotland, Sweden and Switzerland.
It found that following a reduction since the mid 1990s, "crime now occurs in the United States with about the same frequency as in England and Wales".
The DoJ also wrote "The falling rates of crime in the United States most consistently were related to the aging of the population, falling unemployment rates, and rising risk of punishment by the justice system." NOTHING there about CCW laws changing.
Lest you have forgotten, the DoJ in 2004 was headed by the conservative Ashcroft. Violent crime and homicides both increased in the US in 2005 (FBI UCR). 2006 data are not yet available from the FBI although the preliminary report indicates another INCREASE....
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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You're just pissed because I PROVED my point by supplying actual FACTS rather than NRA myths, and you can't contradict them.
Not me. My post, about inconsistencies, was about your character. The quoted posts speak for themselves.
Inconsistent?
You mean like:
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It puts this Kallend post in context.
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