D22369 0 #1 February 9, 2007 I nominate this fucker to be the first televised execution in the USA you dont do this... assbags like this need to stop breathing our oxygen whether they are male or female... Roy Quote Dad Charged After Toddler Freezes to Death By RAMESH SANTANAM, AP PHILADELPHIA (Feb. 8) - A man angry his toddler daughter wouldn't go to bed knocked her unconscious and left her to die outside in single-digit temperatures, police said. AP Photo William Lorenzo Page, 23, is led out of police headquarters after being charged in the death of his toddler daughter. His charges include criminal homicide, kidnapping, making false reports to law enforcement and simple assault. The frozen body of Nyia Miangel Page, who was about to turn 2, was found Sunday at an abandoned playground about a 10-minute walk from the family's home. Tiny footprints in the snow suggest she had gotten up and wandered around before she died, police said. Her father, William Lorenzo Page, 23, of Braddock, was arrested Wednesday on charges of criminal homicide, kidnapping, false reports and simple assault. He has been in custody since Sunday, when he was charged with sexually abusing another child shortly before Nyia died. Page, who did not have an attorney at his arraignment Thursday morning, was jailed without bond. Page told police he woke up early Saturday and found the girl awake and playing near a mirror in the hallway, according to a criminal complaint filed Wednesday night. He said he got mad when the girl wouldn't go back to bed so he hit her so hard she hit her head and was unconscious, the complaint said. Police said Page told them he took the girl outside wrapped in a blanket and left her, still breathing, beside railroad tracks near a bridge. Police said a T-shirt, a pair of women's underwear and a Pittsburgh Steelers "Terrible Towel," all found in Page's basement, appeared to have been stained with dried blood. An autopsy determined Nyia died of hypothermia, but the Allegheny County Medical Examiner ruled the death a homicide because investigators said it was unreasonable to assume the child had made it alone to the playground, which is on a wooded knoll. The toddler would have had to have climbed 17 snowy steps to get there. Authorities could only guess how long Nyia, wearing only a sweater and a diaper, could have survived in temperatures that hovered around 2 degrees Saturday morning. "Given her size, she would have been rendered incapacitated very quickly," Allegheny County Medical Examiner Dr. Karl E. Williams said Thursday. "She'd been out so long, when we found her she was frozen." A witness saw Page enter his house Saturday morning from the direction where his daughter was found, police said. He was back out on the street about an hour later, saying he was looking for the girl and telling the witness, "Somebody took my daughter," according to a criminal complaint. Nyia's mother told police she last saw the girl after Nyia tried to crawl into bed with her parents about 12:30 a.m. Saturday. The mother told police she put the youngster back into her own bed in an upstairs room. Police, emergency crews and bloodhounds searched in 20-degree temperatures for most of two days before finding the little girl's body. The sexual abuse charge against Page came as police investigated Nyia's disappearance. Police said another child in the house told investigators that sometime overnight Friday, Page entered a bedroom, covered the child's mouth with one hand and touched the child's genitals with the other. The child said Page then left the room, followed by Nyia, police saidThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites johnie 0 #2 February 9, 2007 I second that motion! No regrets on that decision.No matter where you Go!"there you are"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #3 February 9, 2007 Use him for medical experiments. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #4 February 9, 2007 I volunteer to kill him myself. In a very cruel manner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #5 February 9, 2007 This is nothing that can't be sorted our reasonably in a sane manner. Use a torch, pliers, and a 200amp battery charger on him. He doens't even deserve that humane of treatment, it is far too good for a waste of skin like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #6 February 9, 2007 QuoteI nominate this fucker to be the first televised execution in the USA I'll do it and I'll shoot the video for free. Sick fucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #7 February 9, 2007 One gun, one bullet, case closed."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #8 February 9, 2007 QuoteOne gun, one bullet, case closed. Too quick for the bastard. He should be chained to a steel post outside in 2 degree weather and smacked in the head with a 2x4 then left to freeze to death. Same as he did the little girl. Make sure he is gagged. People shouldn't have to listen to him whine and bitch about how cold it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #9 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne gun, one bullet, case closed. Too quick for the bastard. He should be chained to a steel post outside in 2 degree weather and smacked in the head with a 2x4 then left to freeze to death. Same as he did the little girl. Make sure he is gagged. People shouldn't have to listen to him whine and bitch about how cold it is. Do not become the monster."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #10 February 9, 2007 .... how Pathetic and sad......... my feelings of distaste for this man, are the equal to my feelings of sadness for the child....... AND my heart BREAKS to think of that poor kid, during the childs' last hours..... however ...He WILL receive his Just "reward" ...i will say that here is further evidence that many many people who create children, or who are charged with their care, are grossly incapable of such responsibilities.... no justification, no explanation, no excuse, no amount of remorse can be accepted...from this perpetrator... take a life in such a stupid and callous way, and you must forfeit yours,,,,,, end of story... .... I'll leave it to others to determine HOW that should happen,, as for one gun one bullet I say maybe one gun, a shot gun,, but MANY shells,, and Like Marcellus Wallace said, "get medieval on his ass"..... lingering pain followed by death is required here... jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #11 February 9, 2007 Quote.... lingering pain followed by death is required here... I don't understand why lingering pain is required. The person is a cancer to society. A doctor doesn't torture cancer. A doctor removes cancer and disposes of it."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #12 February 9, 2007 I am no doctor... Although I am willing to play like one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteI volunteer to kill him myself. In a very cruel manner He should be violated with a huge cactus until he dies of internal hemmoraging My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #14 February 9, 2007 I try not to be a hateful and vindictive person, as I go through life but this guy here in Philly pushed me... I suggested a lingering death because that is what he dealt out , to that little child... A swift death would mean inadequate suffering and IMHO this p.o.s. needs to suffer.... it will be interesting to see what becomes of this case... but if it was left up to me, I WOULD turn Marcellus Wallace loose on him. jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HeadCone 0 #15 February 9, 2007 Not that it matters where, but I believe this happened in Pittsburgh (Allegheny County). The same story but references Pittsburgh: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/08/toddler.death.ap/index.html --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlueSkiesBabe 0 #16 February 9, 2007 Stories of any parent killing their own child just sickens me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #17 February 9, 2007 QuoteI try not to be a hateful and vindictive person, as I go through life but this guy here in Philly pushed me... I suggested a lingering death because that is what he dealt out , to that little child... A swift death would mean inadequate suffering and IMHO this p.o.s. needs to suffer.... it will be interesting to see what becomes of this case... but if it was left up to me, I WOULD turn Marcellus Wallace loose on him. jmy I understand your feelings. I just don't understand what purpose is served by torturing the person. (Other than taking pleasure in the other persons pain.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #18 February 9, 2007 Quote I understand your feelings. I just don't understand what purpose is served by torturing the person. (Other than taking pleasure in the other persons pain.) Well, hopefully when the sick bastard's time on earth is up, his personal Hell will be standing in Antartica naked in the dead of winter with temps at -70F or worse, for eternity. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #19 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuote.... lingering pain followed by death is required here... I don't understand why lingering pain is required. The person is a cancer to society. A doctor doesn't torture cancer. A doctor removes cancer and disposes of it. Ok, we'll turn him over to a doctor. Dr. Hannibal Lecter. He'll know what to do with the scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kbordson 8 #20 February 10, 2007 Situations like that truly and honestly confuse me. I haven't personally had children... but it amazes me that some parents don't have any connection to their children. No maternal/paternal instincts. No deep and caring love. No instinct to ensure continuation of the line. When I do deliveries.... I like seeing the hopeful and happy faces. I don't think that I could do pediatrics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #21 February 10, 2007 This is just as sick. I'm trying to keep in mind that they had not guilty pleas entered and that they have not yet been tried. In Mansfield, Ohio, Scott Ritchie, 26, is being accused of killing his four-month-old niece January 22 because she would not stop crying. Mansfield police say the baby's parents, along with two other people, just watched and did nothing during the course of the murder. http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007702030303 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PeterB 0 #22 February 10, 2007 Jesus Fuckn' Christ people, you've lost all perspective. Sure, you're disgusted. Sure, this dude is just a disgrace for the human race. Tell me what torturing a criminal will do to breing the kid back to life? Tell me what it accomplishes in terms of honor or any other god damned good it would do to society if your plans were put into actions. I'll show you the side effects. One bullet if proven guilty. This is about removing a threat, not going high and macho as a 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Seriously dudes. I thought you were smarter than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #23 February 10, 2007 point well taken.... please consider this a public retraction of my original "knee-jerk" reaction to this heinous act. i responded with my heart and not my brain.... Of course one tortuous act should NOT beget another one..... But i am a Father, and a Christian, and a sympathetic appreciator ( is THAT a word ? ) of all people, young and old, near and far... I guess I was relying on the old adage, "an eye for an eye",,,, but as I should KNOW, by this point in my life,,,,, all that leads to, is further blindness...... Pity this foolish and irresponsible person, yes..... but I do see the folly of my original negative post, about a slow and painful death.....THAT accomplishes very little,,,, As I NOW realize... vengeance cripples EVERYone involved.. thanks PeterB, for the enlightenment jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #24 February 10, 2007 QuoteJesus Fuckn' Christ people, you've lost all perspective. Sure, you're disgusted. Sure, this dude is just a disgrace for the human race. Tell me what torturing a criminal will do to breing the kid back to life? Tell me what it accomplishes in terms of honor or any other god damned good it would do to society if your plans were put into actions. I'll show you the side effects. One bullet if proven guilty. This is about removing a threat, not going high and macho as a 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Seriously dudes. I thought you were smarter than this. I thought there was already more than one thread on the revenge vs cure vs deterrent aspects of capital punishment? C'mon dude, lighten up. It's not like any of us are going to be the ones sentencing the man if he is found guilty. And even if he were sentenced to freeze to death the courts would throw out the sentence in a heartbeat. Nothing wrong with someone here telling what they feel is an appropriate punishment including a quick bullet in the back of the head when he isn't expecting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #25 February 10, 2007 QuoteNothing wrong with someone here telling what they feel is an appropriate punishment I think PeterB's comment might be that there IS something wrong with that. Not morally wrong, but psychologically risky. It's commonly thought that a pedophile rehearsing his fantasies in his own mind is unhealthy and should be inhibited. In the same way (although perhaps to a different extent) rehearsing and encouraging fantasies of revenge and cruelty in one's mind is probably not good for one's own personal mental health. I'm thinking of another poster here who regularly posts how he thinks someone or other in the popular news stories deserves to be murdered. Over and over he keeps suggesting this about different people, day after day. I have to wonder what's behind that cycle. Edited for typo First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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johnie 0 #2 February 9, 2007 I second that motion! No regrets on that decision.No matter where you Go!"there you are"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #3 February 9, 2007 Use him for medical experiments. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 February 9, 2007 I volunteer to kill him myself. In a very cruel manner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 February 9, 2007 This is nothing that can't be sorted our reasonably in a sane manner. Use a torch, pliers, and a 200amp battery charger on him. He doens't even deserve that humane of treatment, it is far too good for a waste of skin like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #6 February 9, 2007 QuoteI nominate this fucker to be the first televised execution in the USA I'll do it and I'll shoot the video for free. Sick fucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #7 February 9, 2007 One gun, one bullet, case closed."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #8 February 9, 2007 QuoteOne gun, one bullet, case closed. Too quick for the bastard. He should be chained to a steel post outside in 2 degree weather and smacked in the head with a 2x4 then left to freeze to death. Same as he did the little girl. Make sure he is gagged. People shouldn't have to listen to him whine and bitch about how cold it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #9 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne gun, one bullet, case closed. Too quick for the bastard. He should be chained to a steel post outside in 2 degree weather and smacked in the head with a 2x4 then left to freeze to death. Same as he did the little girl. Make sure he is gagged. People shouldn't have to listen to him whine and bitch about how cold it is. Do not become the monster."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #10 February 9, 2007 .... how Pathetic and sad......... my feelings of distaste for this man, are the equal to my feelings of sadness for the child....... AND my heart BREAKS to think of that poor kid, during the childs' last hours..... however ...He WILL receive his Just "reward" ...i will say that here is further evidence that many many people who create children, or who are charged with their care, are grossly incapable of such responsibilities.... no justification, no explanation, no excuse, no amount of remorse can be accepted...from this perpetrator... take a life in such a stupid and callous way, and you must forfeit yours,,,,,, end of story... .... I'll leave it to others to determine HOW that should happen,, as for one gun one bullet I say maybe one gun, a shot gun,, but MANY shells,, and Like Marcellus Wallace said, "get medieval on his ass"..... lingering pain followed by death is required here... jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #11 February 9, 2007 Quote.... lingering pain followed by death is required here... I don't understand why lingering pain is required. The person is a cancer to society. A doctor doesn't torture cancer. A doctor removes cancer and disposes of it."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #12 February 9, 2007 I am no doctor... Although I am willing to play like one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteI volunteer to kill him myself. In a very cruel manner He should be violated with a huge cactus until he dies of internal hemmoraging My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #14 February 9, 2007 I try not to be a hateful and vindictive person, as I go through life but this guy here in Philly pushed me... I suggested a lingering death because that is what he dealt out , to that little child... A swift death would mean inadequate suffering and IMHO this p.o.s. needs to suffer.... it will be interesting to see what becomes of this case... but if it was left up to me, I WOULD turn Marcellus Wallace loose on him. jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HeadCone 0 #15 February 9, 2007 Not that it matters where, but I believe this happened in Pittsburgh (Allegheny County). The same story but references Pittsburgh: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/08/toddler.death.ap/index.html --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlueSkiesBabe 0 #16 February 9, 2007 Stories of any parent killing their own child just sickens me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #17 February 9, 2007 QuoteI try not to be a hateful and vindictive person, as I go through life but this guy here in Philly pushed me... I suggested a lingering death because that is what he dealt out , to that little child... A swift death would mean inadequate suffering and IMHO this p.o.s. needs to suffer.... it will be interesting to see what becomes of this case... but if it was left up to me, I WOULD turn Marcellus Wallace loose on him. jmy I understand your feelings. I just don't understand what purpose is served by torturing the person. (Other than taking pleasure in the other persons pain.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #18 February 9, 2007 Quote I understand your feelings. I just don't understand what purpose is served by torturing the person. (Other than taking pleasure in the other persons pain.) Well, hopefully when the sick bastard's time on earth is up, his personal Hell will be standing in Antartica naked in the dead of winter with temps at -70F or worse, for eternity. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #19 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuote.... lingering pain followed by death is required here... I don't understand why lingering pain is required. The person is a cancer to society. A doctor doesn't torture cancer. A doctor removes cancer and disposes of it. Ok, we'll turn him over to a doctor. Dr. Hannibal Lecter. He'll know what to do with the scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kbordson 8 #20 February 10, 2007 Situations like that truly and honestly confuse me. I haven't personally had children... but it amazes me that some parents don't have any connection to their children. No maternal/paternal instincts. No deep and caring love. No instinct to ensure continuation of the line. When I do deliveries.... I like seeing the hopeful and happy faces. I don't think that I could do pediatrics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #21 February 10, 2007 This is just as sick. I'm trying to keep in mind that they had not guilty pleas entered and that they have not yet been tried. In Mansfield, Ohio, Scott Ritchie, 26, is being accused of killing his four-month-old niece January 22 because she would not stop crying. Mansfield police say the baby's parents, along with two other people, just watched and did nothing during the course of the murder. http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007702030303 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PeterB 0 #22 February 10, 2007 Jesus Fuckn' Christ people, you've lost all perspective. Sure, you're disgusted. Sure, this dude is just a disgrace for the human race. Tell me what torturing a criminal will do to breing the kid back to life? Tell me what it accomplishes in terms of honor or any other god damned good it would do to society if your plans were put into actions. I'll show you the side effects. One bullet if proven guilty. This is about removing a threat, not going high and macho as a 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Seriously dudes. I thought you were smarter than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #23 February 10, 2007 point well taken.... please consider this a public retraction of my original "knee-jerk" reaction to this heinous act. i responded with my heart and not my brain.... Of course one tortuous act should NOT beget another one..... But i am a Father, and a Christian, and a sympathetic appreciator ( is THAT a word ? ) of all people, young and old, near and far... I guess I was relying on the old adage, "an eye for an eye",,,, but as I should KNOW, by this point in my life,,,,, all that leads to, is further blindness...... Pity this foolish and irresponsible person, yes..... but I do see the folly of my original negative post, about a slow and painful death.....THAT accomplishes very little,,,, As I NOW realize... vengeance cripples EVERYone involved.. thanks PeterB, for the enlightenment jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #24 February 10, 2007 QuoteJesus Fuckn' Christ people, you've lost all perspective. Sure, you're disgusted. Sure, this dude is just a disgrace for the human race. Tell me what torturing a criminal will do to breing the kid back to life? Tell me what it accomplishes in terms of honor or any other god damned good it would do to society if your plans were put into actions. I'll show you the side effects. One bullet if proven guilty. This is about removing a threat, not going high and macho as a 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Seriously dudes. I thought you were smarter than this. I thought there was already more than one thread on the revenge vs cure vs deterrent aspects of capital punishment? C'mon dude, lighten up. It's not like any of us are going to be the ones sentencing the man if he is found guilty. And even if he were sentenced to freeze to death the courts would throw out the sentence in a heartbeat. Nothing wrong with someone here telling what they feel is an appropriate punishment including a quick bullet in the back of the head when he isn't expecting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #25 February 10, 2007 QuoteNothing wrong with someone here telling what they feel is an appropriate punishment I think PeterB's comment might be that there IS something wrong with that. Not morally wrong, but psychologically risky. It's commonly thought that a pedophile rehearsing his fantasies in his own mind is unhealthy and should be inhibited. In the same way (although perhaps to a different extent) rehearsing and encouraging fantasies of revenge and cruelty in one's mind is probably not good for one's own personal mental health. I'm thinking of another poster here who regularly posts how he thinks someone or other in the popular news stories deserves to be murdered. Over and over he keeps suggesting this about different people, day after day. I have to wonder what's behind that cycle. Edited for typo First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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Butters 0 #7 February 9, 2007 One gun, one bullet, case closed."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #8 February 9, 2007 QuoteOne gun, one bullet, case closed. Too quick for the bastard. He should be chained to a steel post outside in 2 degree weather and smacked in the head with a 2x4 then left to freeze to death. Same as he did the little girl. Make sure he is gagged. People shouldn't have to listen to him whine and bitch about how cold it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #9 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne gun, one bullet, case closed. Too quick for the bastard. He should be chained to a steel post outside in 2 degree weather and smacked in the head with a 2x4 then left to freeze to death. Same as he did the little girl. Make sure he is gagged. People shouldn't have to listen to him whine and bitch about how cold it is. Do not become the monster."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #10 February 9, 2007 .... how Pathetic and sad......... my feelings of distaste for this man, are the equal to my feelings of sadness for the child....... AND my heart BREAKS to think of that poor kid, during the childs' last hours..... however ...He WILL receive his Just "reward" ...i will say that here is further evidence that many many people who create children, or who are charged with their care, are grossly incapable of such responsibilities.... no justification, no explanation, no excuse, no amount of remorse can be accepted...from this perpetrator... take a life in such a stupid and callous way, and you must forfeit yours,,,,,, end of story... .... I'll leave it to others to determine HOW that should happen,, as for one gun one bullet I say maybe one gun, a shot gun,, but MANY shells,, and Like Marcellus Wallace said, "get medieval on his ass"..... lingering pain followed by death is required here... jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #11 February 9, 2007 Quote.... lingering pain followed by death is required here... I don't understand why lingering pain is required. The person is a cancer to society. A doctor doesn't torture cancer. A doctor removes cancer and disposes of it."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 February 9, 2007 I am no doctor... Although I am willing to play like one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #13 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteI volunteer to kill him myself. In a very cruel manner He should be violated with a huge cactus until he dies of internal hemmoraging My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #14 February 9, 2007 I try not to be a hateful and vindictive person, as I go through life but this guy here in Philly pushed me... I suggested a lingering death because that is what he dealt out , to that little child... A swift death would mean inadequate suffering and IMHO this p.o.s. needs to suffer.... it will be interesting to see what becomes of this case... but if it was left up to me, I WOULD turn Marcellus Wallace loose on him. jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #15 February 9, 2007 Not that it matters where, but I believe this happened in Pittsburgh (Allegheny County). The same story but references Pittsburgh: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/08/toddler.death.ap/index.html --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSkiesBabe 0 #16 February 9, 2007 Stories of any parent killing their own child just sickens me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #17 February 9, 2007 QuoteI try not to be a hateful and vindictive person, as I go through life but this guy here in Philly pushed me... I suggested a lingering death because that is what he dealt out , to that little child... A swift death would mean inadequate suffering and IMHO this p.o.s. needs to suffer.... it will be interesting to see what becomes of this case... but if it was left up to me, I WOULD turn Marcellus Wallace loose on him. jmy I understand your feelings. I just don't understand what purpose is served by torturing the person. (Other than taking pleasure in the other persons pain.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #18 February 9, 2007 Quote I understand your feelings. I just don't understand what purpose is served by torturing the person. (Other than taking pleasure in the other persons pain.) Well, hopefully when the sick bastard's time on earth is up, his personal Hell will be standing in Antartica naked in the dead of winter with temps at -70F or worse, for eternity. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #19 February 9, 2007 QuoteQuote.... lingering pain followed by death is required here... I don't understand why lingering pain is required. The person is a cancer to society. A doctor doesn't torture cancer. A doctor removes cancer and disposes of it. Ok, we'll turn him over to a doctor. Dr. Hannibal Lecter. He'll know what to do with the scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #20 February 10, 2007 Situations like that truly and honestly confuse me. I haven't personally had children... but it amazes me that some parents don't have any connection to their children. No maternal/paternal instincts. No deep and caring love. No instinct to ensure continuation of the line. When I do deliveries.... I like seeing the hopeful and happy faces. I don't think that I could do pediatrics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #21 February 10, 2007 This is just as sick. I'm trying to keep in mind that they had not guilty pleas entered and that they have not yet been tried. In Mansfield, Ohio, Scott Ritchie, 26, is being accused of killing his four-month-old niece January 22 because she would not stop crying. Mansfield police say the baby's parents, along with two other people, just watched and did nothing during the course of the murder. http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007702030303 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterB 0 #22 February 10, 2007 Jesus Fuckn' Christ people, you've lost all perspective. Sure, you're disgusted. Sure, this dude is just a disgrace for the human race. Tell me what torturing a criminal will do to breing the kid back to life? Tell me what it accomplishes in terms of honor or any other god damned good it would do to society if your plans were put into actions. I'll show you the side effects. One bullet if proven guilty. This is about removing a threat, not going high and macho as a 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Seriously dudes. I thought you were smarter than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #23 February 10, 2007 point well taken.... please consider this a public retraction of my original "knee-jerk" reaction to this heinous act. i responded with my heart and not my brain.... Of course one tortuous act should NOT beget another one..... But i am a Father, and a Christian, and a sympathetic appreciator ( is THAT a word ? ) of all people, young and old, near and far... I guess I was relying on the old adage, "an eye for an eye",,,, but as I should KNOW, by this point in my life,,,,, all that leads to, is further blindness...... Pity this foolish and irresponsible person, yes..... but I do see the folly of my original negative post, about a slow and painful death.....THAT accomplishes very little,,,, As I NOW realize... vengeance cripples EVERYone involved.. thanks PeterB, for the enlightenment jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #24 February 10, 2007 QuoteJesus Fuckn' Christ people, you've lost all perspective. Sure, you're disgusted. Sure, this dude is just a disgrace for the human race. Tell me what torturing a criminal will do to breing the kid back to life? Tell me what it accomplishes in terms of honor or any other god damned good it would do to society if your plans were put into actions. I'll show you the side effects. One bullet if proven guilty. This is about removing a threat, not going high and macho as a 101st Fighting Keyboardist. Seriously dudes. I thought you were smarter than this. I thought there was already more than one thread on the revenge vs cure vs deterrent aspects of capital punishment? C'mon dude, lighten up. It's not like any of us are going to be the ones sentencing the man if he is found guilty. And even if he were sentenced to freeze to death the courts would throw out the sentence in a heartbeat. Nothing wrong with someone here telling what they feel is an appropriate punishment including a quick bullet in the back of the head when he isn't expecting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #25 February 10, 2007 QuoteNothing wrong with someone here telling what they feel is an appropriate punishment I think PeterB's comment might be that there IS something wrong with that. Not morally wrong, but psychologically risky. It's commonly thought that a pedophile rehearsing his fantasies in his own mind is unhealthy and should be inhibited. In the same way (although perhaps to a different extent) rehearsing and encouraging fantasies of revenge and cruelty in one's mind is probably not good for one's own personal mental health. I'm thinking of another poster here who regularly posts how he thinks someone or other in the popular news stories deserves to be murdered. Over and over he keeps suggesting this about different people, day after day. I have to wonder what's behind that cycle. Edited for typo First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
