SkyChimp 0 #1 February 11, 2007 THE FOLLOWING IS THE SPEECH MADE BY FORMER SENATOR ZELL MILLER OF GEORGIA. THE SPEECH WAS GIVEN AT THE 2004 RNC CONVENTION. Since I last stood in this spot, a whole new generation of the Miller Family has been born: Four great grandchildren. Along with all the other members of our close-knit family, they are my and Shirley's most precious possessions. And I know that's how you feel about your family also. Like you, I think of their future, the promises and the perils they will face. Like you, I believe that the next four years will determine what kind of world they will grow up in. And like you, I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family? The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight. For my family is more important than my party. There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future and that man's name is George Bush. In the summer of 1940, I was an 8-year-old boy living in a remote little Appalachian valley. Our country was not yet at war, but even we children knew that there were some crazy men across the ocean who would kill us if they could. President Roosevelt, in his speech that summer, told America "all private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense repealed by an overriding public danger." In 1940, Wendell Wilkie was the Republican nominee. And there is no better example of someone repealing their "private plans" than this good man. He gave Roosevelt the critical support he needed for a peacetime draft, an unpopular idea at the time. And he made it clear that he would rather lose the election than make national security a partisan campaign issue. Shortly before Wilkie died, he told a friend, that if he could write his own epitaph and had to choose between "here lies a president" or "here lies one who contributed to saving freedom," he would prefer the latter. Where are such statesmen today? Where is the bipartisanship in this country when we need it most? Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat's manic obsession to bring down our Commander in Chief. What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in? I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny. It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city. Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today. Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator. And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators. Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers. Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers. Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers. Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home. For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag. No one should dare to even think about being the Commander in Chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home. But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking America is the problem, not the solution. They don't believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy. It is not their patriotism — it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace. They were wrong. They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war. They were wrong. And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. Together, Kennedy/Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that is now winning the War on Terror. Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security but Americans need to know the facts. The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40 percent of the bombs in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom. The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq. The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora. The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and this very city after 9/11. I could go on and on and on: against the Patriot Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel; against the Aegis air-defense cruiser; against the Strategic Defense Initiative; against the Trident missile; against, against, against. This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S. Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs? Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than twenty weeks of campaign rhetoric. Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are. How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside. Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations. Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security. That's the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world. Free for how long? For more than 20 years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure. As a war protester, Kerry blamed our military. As a Senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harms way, far away. George Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats. John Kerry wants to re-fight yesterday's war. George Bush believes we have to fight today's war and be ready for tomorrow's challenges. George Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists. No matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under. George Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip. From John Kerry, they get a "yes-no-maybe" bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies and confuse our friends. I first got to know George Bush when we served as governors together. I admire this man. I am moved by the respect he shows the first lady, his unabashed love for his parents and his daughters, and the fact that he is unashamed of his belief that God is not indifferent to America. I can identify with someone who has lived that line in "Amazing Grace," "Was blind, but now I see," and I like the fact that he's the same man on Saturday night that he is on Sunday morning. He is not a slick talker but he is a straight shooter and, where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words. I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel. The man I trust to protect my most precious possession: my family. This election will change forever the course of history, and that's not any history. It's our family's history. The only question is how. The answer lies with each of us. And, like many generations before us, we've got some hard choosing to do. Right now the world just cannot afford an indecisive America. Fainthearted self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world. In this hour of danger our President has had the courage to stand up. And this Democrat is proud to stand up with him. Thank you. God Bless this great country and God Bless George W. Bush. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! 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akarunway 1 #2 February 11, 2007 Fuck ALL the Bushes. I hope they burn in hell. If there is one.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #3 February 11, 2007 Anyone who tries to draw parrallels between Gulf War 2 and World War 2 has failed the test of critical thinking.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #4 February 11, 2007 I agre with the 2 previous posters. Trying to use like logic in times that are soooooo different is what the Republicans have stood for and why they are losing lower. Being progressive is what the world is about now with all the dynamic change occuring. I think the dems feel alienated in many ways, esp in the workplace and with health benefits. If the neo-Nazipublicans could find a way to divert, oh maybe 100 of the 478B spent annually on so-called defense (really offense) toys for medical programs, I think they could passify the left into buying their cliches and rhetoric again, at least enough of them to win majority. 400-year old relicks like Zell are only inches away from extniction, god speed in hurrying up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #5 February 11, 2007 Time to move on to new subjects. This one is getting very old. But to the Poll, I Agree with Zell. Kerry is an Ass, most educated thinking people can see that for themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #6 February 11, 2007 www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=180417 (Convenient source, lots of others out there).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #7 February 11, 2007 QuoteTime to move on to new subjects. This one is getting very old. But to the Poll, I Agree with Zell. Kerry is an Ass, most educated thinking people can see that for themselves. Which Zell, the one who introduced John Kerry in Atlanta in 2001 with the words: "One of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders — and a good friend," who had "worked to strengthen our military."... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #8 February 11, 2007 I guess Kerry isn't the only Dem to flip flop Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #9 February 11, 2007 QuoteI guess Kerry isn't the only Dem to flip flop It transcends party lines.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #10 February 11, 2007 QuoteQuoteI guess Kerry isn't the only Dem to flip flop It transcends party lines. LOL Where do you get this stuff? Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #11 February 11, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI guess Kerry isn't the only Dem to flip flop It transcends party lines. LOL Where do you get this stuff? Knowing stuff is my job.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 February 11, 2007 I object to his use of the word "warped" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 February 12, 2007 Being progressive is what the world is about now with all the dynamic change occuring.Quote It is thinking such as this that worries me the most. Progressive = ??? The definition please?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #14 February 12, 2007 Being progressive neo-Nazipublicans Please define these terms so that I can understand your viewpoint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #15 February 12, 2007 He can't tell you, you might as well hold your breath for eternity. Lucky only spouts what he reads at anti bush websites Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyChimp 0 #16 February 12, 2007 Well, so far we have more people agreeing with the content of Miller's speech. I agree that awareness is huge for our survival in this country. Regardless of who is president. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #17 February 12, 2007 QuoteTime to move on to new subjects. This one is getting very old. But to the Poll, I Agree with Zell. Kerry is an Ass, most educated thinking people can see that for themselves. Trends are that the more educated a person is, the more they tend to go Dem. As for Kerry, not my favorite, but when put next to your hero, he has never been convicted of a crime, he actually fought in VN when he could have chickened out, and he is a far more compassionate person to people, rather than to corporations. I could draw a list as to why Bush is far worse than an ass, but that's been done here so many times. We can talk 3100+ dead US troops, matching teh debt increase of Reagan/Bush in 1/2 the time and soooooo many more. But Repubs don;t like thngs like factual data, just rhetoric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #18 February 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI guess Kerry isn't the only Dem to flip flop It transcends party lines. LOL Where do you get this stuff? He's a professor, that's his job Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #19 February 12, 2007 QuoteBeing progressive is what the world is about now with all the dynamic change occuring.Quote It is thinking such as this that worries me the most. Progressive = ??? The definition please? You guys are kidding, right? Before I look it up, I will say it has to do with a person who seeks to create progress, as a noun anyway. As a verb it would be the act of moving forward. The antonym would be regressive, stale, stangnate, and possibly traditional, I would guess. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/progressive 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. 4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics. 5. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step. 6. noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income. 7. of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools. 8. Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference. 9. Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. –noun 10. a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters. 11. (initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party. 12. Grammar. a. the progressive aspect. b. a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it. Pretty much as I wrote, but they go further with the addition of maintaining things as they are. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/progressive Synonyms: accelerating, advanced, advancing, avant-garde*, bleeding heart, broad, broad-minded, continuing, continuous, developing, dynamic, enlightened, enterprising, escalating, forward-looking, go-ahead*, gradual, graduated, growing, increasing, intensifying, left*, lenient, modern, ongoing, onward, open-minded, pink, radical, reformist, revolutionary, tolerant, up-and-coming*, up-to-date, wide Antonyms: conservative I love it, antonym is, conservative. S/B neo-con Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyChimp 0 #20 February 12, 2007 You took that one to heart! Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #21 February 12, 2007 QuoteBeing progressive neo-Nazipublicans Please define these terms so that I can understand your viewpoint. I just defined, "progressive," so now to, "neo-Nazipublicans." Neo = new Nazi = unbearably strict Publican = short for Republican Come on guys, figure things out here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #22 February 12, 2007 QuoteHe can't tell you, you might as well hold your breath for eternity. Lucky only spouts what he reads at anti bush websites I don;t read those as a rule, just read maintstream media and get enough TRUTHS to define my own understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #23 February 12, 2007 QuoteWell, so far we have more people agreeing with the content of Miller's speech. I agree that awareness is huge for our survival in this country. Regardless of who is president. Sample size of 23 so far. Furthermore, not real scientific and it refutes the actual polls of 200,000+ that can be seen all over that reveal Bush's approval of 30 or so %. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyChimp 0 #24 February 12, 2007 I'm referring to this poll Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #25 February 12, 2007 QuoteYou took that one to heart! Well, they asked, I researched. You'll see it works that way here and most places, the dems make an assertion, the cons (not neo-cons, we have none here) DEMAND citations, the dems post them and the cons throw out some rhetoric as opposed to data or citation to refute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Royd 0 #14 February 12, 2007 Being progressive neo-Nazipublicans Please define these terms so that I can understand your viewpoint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 February 12, 2007 He can't tell you, you might as well hold your breath for eternity. Lucky only spouts what he reads at anti bush websites Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #16 February 12, 2007 Well, so far we have more people agreeing with the content of Miller's speech. I agree that awareness is huge for our survival in this country. Regardless of who is president. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #17 February 12, 2007 QuoteTime to move on to new subjects. This one is getting very old. But to the Poll, I Agree with Zell. Kerry is an Ass, most educated thinking people can see that for themselves. Trends are that the more educated a person is, the more they tend to go Dem. As for Kerry, not my favorite, but when put next to your hero, he has never been convicted of a crime, he actually fought in VN when he could have chickened out, and he is a far more compassionate person to people, rather than to corporations. I could draw a list as to why Bush is far worse than an ass, but that's been done here so many times. We can talk 3100+ dead US troops, matching teh debt increase of Reagan/Bush in 1/2 the time and soooooo many more. But Repubs don;t like thngs like factual data, just rhetoric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #18 February 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI guess Kerry isn't the only Dem to flip flop It transcends party lines. LOL Where do you get this stuff? He's a professor, that's his job Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 February 12, 2007 QuoteBeing progressive is what the world is about now with all the dynamic change occuring.Quote It is thinking such as this that worries me the most. Progressive = ??? The definition please? You guys are kidding, right? Before I look it up, I will say it has to do with a person who seeks to create progress, as a noun anyway. As a verb it would be the act of moving forward. The antonym would be regressive, stale, stangnate, and possibly traditional, I would guess. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/progressive 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. 4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics. 5. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step. 6. noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income. 7. of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools. 8. Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference. 9. Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. –noun 10. a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters. 11. (initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party. 12. Grammar. a. the progressive aspect. b. a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it. Pretty much as I wrote, but they go further with the addition of maintaining things as they are. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/progressive Synonyms: accelerating, advanced, advancing, avant-garde*, bleeding heart, broad, broad-minded, continuing, continuous, developing, dynamic, enlightened, enterprising, escalating, forward-looking, go-ahead*, gradual, graduated, growing, increasing, intensifying, left*, lenient, modern, ongoing, onward, open-minded, pink, radical, reformist, revolutionary, tolerant, up-and-coming*, up-to-date, wide Antonyms: conservative I love it, antonym is, conservative. S/B neo-con Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyChimp 0 #20 February 12, 2007 You took that one to heart! Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #21 February 12, 2007 QuoteBeing progressive neo-Nazipublicans Please define these terms so that I can understand your viewpoint. I just defined, "progressive," so now to, "neo-Nazipublicans." Neo = new Nazi = unbearably strict Publican = short for Republican Come on guys, figure things out here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #22 February 12, 2007 QuoteHe can't tell you, you might as well hold your breath for eternity. Lucky only spouts what he reads at anti bush websites I don;t read those as a rule, just read maintstream media and get enough TRUTHS to define my own understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #23 February 12, 2007 QuoteWell, so far we have more people agreeing with the content of Miller's speech. I agree that awareness is huge for our survival in this country. Regardless of who is president. Sample size of 23 so far. Furthermore, not real scientific and it refutes the actual polls of 200,000+ that can be seen all over that reveal Bush's approval of 30 or so %. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyChimp 0 #24 February 12, 2007 I'm referring to this poll Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #25 February 12, 2007 QuoteYou took that one to heart! Well, they asked, I researched. You'll see it works that way here and most places, the dems make an assertion, the cons (not neo-cons, we have none here) DEMAND citations, the dems post them and the cons throw out some rhetoric as opposed to data or citation to refute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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SkyChimp 0 #20 February 12, 2007 You took that one to heart! Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #21 February 12, 2007 QuoteBeing progressive neo-Nazipublicans Please define these terms so that I can understand your viewpoint. I just defined, "progressive," so now to, "neo-Nazipublicans." Neo = new Nazi = unbearably strict Publican = short for Republican Come on guys, figure things out here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #22 February 12, 2007 QuoteHe can't tell you, you might as well hold your breath for eternity. Lucky only spouts what he reads at anti bush websites I don;t read those as a rule, just read maintstream media and get enough TRUTHS to define my own understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 February 12, 2007 QuoteWell, so far we have more people agreeing with the content of Miller's speech. I agree that awareness is huge for our survival in this country. Regardless of who is president. Sample size of 23 so far. Furthermore, not real scientific and it refutes the actual polls of 200,000+ that can be seen all over that reveal Bush's approval of 30 or so %. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #24 February 12, 2007 I'm referring to this poll Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 February 12, 2007 QuoteYou took that one to heart! Well, they asked, I researched. You'll see it works that way here and most places, the dems make an assertion, the cons (not neo-cons, we have none here) DEMAND citations, the dems post them and the cons throw out some rhetoric as opposed to data or citation to refute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites