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>shoot someone to prevent yourself or someone else from becoming
>someones captive, would you do it?

What case?

A US police officer attempting to take you into custody?

An Iraqi police officer (in Iraq) trying to take you into custody?

Someone who won't show you identification claiming to be a police officer/military?

A thug in the street?

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Being taken captive over shooting someone?

I'd rather be taken captive and not take someone's life. There's always the chance of escape. Granted if it was a good friend, I'm sure they'd let me shoot them in a non lethal manner, and I'd do the same for them if they were in that situation.

After all, what're a few toes between friends?

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shoot someone to prevent yourself or someone else from becoming someones captive, would you do it?



Depends on the situation. I've always found a way to keep my hide this far in my life, I'd like to think I would be able to under any situation I may yet encounter. I just hope I never have to find out.:|

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shoot someone to prevent yourself or someone else from becoming someones captive, would you do it?



This is a odd question, its also a redundant one as no one really knows until they are in that situation, regardless of what they think they would do before hand (includng those that have been trained for such a situation) It also depends on the circumstances. In the late '80s two soldiers in Northern Ireland found themselves in a bad spot when they drove around a corner into a republican funeral, their way was blocked by republican driven Taxis and a mob surrounded the car. The two soldiers were both armed but did not open fire and were dragged from the car and beaten to within a inch of their lives they had the clothes torn from their bodies then they were executed by shooting in the street while a army scout helicopter filmed the whole thing unable to help.
I was in the forces at the time and it made a impression on me, I remember walking into the NAFFI and it was silent and everyone was very subdued. I watched the news footage on the TV in there and they kept replaying it, I remeber thinking that in the same situation I would have opened fire and tried to escape, but they were trained soldiers as well. If they'd been asked the same question what would they have answered before hand?
A few years later I found myself in a situtaion in Africa when it came to it I found myself ready to open fire, thankfully at the last moment I didn't have to but I know that I could have and was half a squeeze away from doing so when the threat was removed.

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a good shot to the foot or shoulder region would be just fine with me.

Shooting doesn't mean you have to kill the person.

SC here we come!!!!



If you shoot shoot to kill or there is little point in opening fire. Also once a bullet enters the body it is unpredictable in the course it will take, a shot in the shoulder could kill just as a shot to the chest may not. In fact a shot through the chest into lung is a lot more surviveable then a shot in the abdomen. I've seen a man shot in the head just behind the ear walk out of hospital an hour after arrival as the bllet tracked around the outside of his skull and stopped just behind his other ear like a giant zit just under the skin. He went out and shot the guys who shot him just a couple of hours later, they weren't so lucky.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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I think concealed carry is a good thing. Its an interesting topic and I think it can promote good responsible ownership and control, reducing fear of crime and providing an effective response to threat.

Interesting part I've often wondered, as a medic (or whatever your trade is) would you then be obliged to assist in the initial medical care of the wounded. All police authorised firearms officers are medics for that reason as well as treating colleagues. I personally would treat someone if I had shot them. For a starter if you can professional defend yourself and calmly treat them as best you can it shows that you have done everything that was possible to prevent loss of life. That would be worth a bundle in court. To shoot someone and walk away if there is then no other danger is wrong and again, I'd suggest they need to have their permit reconsidered very carefully and possibly any suitable charges raised



if you need to treat them you fucked up.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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No question in my mind. I'd fight to the death to avoid being taken captive because I have no idea what they'll do. If I give up what could be the only chance I have at not being tortured or killed, then it's my own fault for not acting when I had the chance.

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shoot someone to prevent yourself or someone else from becoming someones captive, would you do it?



If I beleived that the person doing the capturing meant harm to me or someone I cared about then yes.
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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in reply:If I beleived that the person doing the capturing meant harm to me or someone I cared about then yes.
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As oppossed to someone taking them into captivity for say; knitting or scuba diving lessons?:S
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I think concealed carry is a good thing. Its an interesting topic and I think it can promote good responsible ownership and control, reducing fear of crime and providing an effective response to threat.

Interesting part I've often wondered, as a medic (or whatever your trade is) would you then be obliged to assist in the initial medical care of the wounded. All police authorised firearms officers are medics for that reason as well as treating colleagues. I personally would treat someone if I had shot them. For a starter if you can professional defend yourself and calmly treat them as best you can it shows that you have done everything that was possible to prevent loss of life. That would be worth a bundle in court. To shoot someone and walk away if there is then no other danger is wrong and again, I'd suggest they need to have their permit reconsidered very carefully and possibly any suitable charges raised



Our rule of thumb in combat, is that security, is first, then treatment goes after the scene is secured, much like civilian world. Your are bound by few laws to treat all wounded the same, of course, if the px is a EPW (Captured Enemy), you make sure the px is clear and that you have security with you, in case they try something on you.


You can feel the training and adrenaline kicking in when it happens.....
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in reply:If I beleived that the person doing the capturing meant harm to me or someone I cared about then yes.
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As oppossed to someone taking them into captivity for say; knitting or scuba diving lessons?:S



I'm sorry but i do not understand your point. can you please clarify.
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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I got to wait 6 months until I can apply for licence and we can't have hadguns as a rule anyway. But I will be shopping for a rifle around that time :)



I hope you consult me on your choice of rifle.:)
You might want to also check with Dr. Bordson, GQ, John Rich, Rainbo, or similar.

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