beowulf 1 #26 February 21, 2007 You talk to him? Right? I would say that takes imagination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm951 0 #27 February 21, 2007 I'm kinda falling in line with Steve & shorty, as I age, see more stuff happen, I get more convinced of my belief. I know people personally who have died and came back. Not a casual NDE, but total flat lines, all monitors for over thrity minutes. I'm convinced. So you can believe in the Great Punkin or whatever. One day, you're going to find that you were mistaken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortyj 0 #28 February 21, 2007 yes I do. don't you talk to people you have a relationship with?Playtime is essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #29 February 21, 2007 Quoteyes I do. don't you talk to people you have a relationship with? Well yes. But I only talk to real people.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #30 February 21, 2007 That's an interesting notion... obtuse but interesting (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #31 February 21, 2007 How is your belief any more valid then say a Hindu? or any other religion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 February 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteYes I am a Christian. I believe and trust in Jesus. It's about having a personal relationship with your creator. And a really good imagination Do you regular make it a practice to mock women for their strongly held personal beliefs? Your parents must be very proud. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #33 February 21, 2007 Quoteyes I do. don't you talk to people you have a relationship with? Woha --- a 2000 year old poster !! Hope you got some real estate back then. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #34 February 21, 2007 QuoteThat's an interesting notion... obtuse but interesting What is obtuse about it? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #35 February 21, 2007 QuoteHow is your belief any more valid then say a Hindu? or any other religion? Religion and spirituality are very personal things. I'm not sure why I must convince you of its validity. But just in case, what would it take? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #36 February 21, 2007 and she is very religous. She prays for me every day and just doesn't seem to work. I guess god isn't listening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #37 February 21, 2007 Yes I believe in God, No matter what theory you believe in it had to have started from somewhere. I am not saying god made earth in 7 days all I am saying is that some thing made this universe or made the beginning element that caused this universe to exists that is something that can not be denied. The more we study science the more you learn of the patterns, and the complicated systems that run our small planet not to even mention the universe. I don’t believe all this is just by chance.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #38 February 21, 2007 Quoteand she is very religous. She prays for me every day and just doesn't seem to work. I guess god isn't listening. I'm not religious, or anti-religious, but when someone says they 'pray for me everyday', I thank them just like I'd thank someone that says they 'think well of me and wish me good things everyday'. I suspect you two have some kind of regular friendly banter going on. But, if not, it's pretty much the opposite of what you are doing. If not, it's pretty clear on these forums who the nice guys are in the debate. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #39 February 21, 2007 actual evidence that can quantified and stand to repeated attempts to discredit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm951 0 #40 February 21, 2007 I think it takes more faith to believe the universe happened at random a long time ago, all by chance. Some would dispute even Intelligent Design, but whatever happened to that 3rd Law of Thermodynamics, you know, the one of all systems tending to entropy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethgray 0 #41 February 21, 2007 REFERRING TO: "But they all can't be correct. Jesus didn't allow for that. He was absolutely exclusive in that regard." I think your missing the point: You feel that a man named Jesus was a god, so what he taught was divine docterine... For the rest of the world that views Jesus as a man, those teachings were simply his oppinion. Just because the leader of one religion condemns other religions, doesn't make them less true: the condemnation is one of the beliefs held by the man named Jesus, NOT absolute fact.BASE #958 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #42 February 21, 2007 QuoteI think it takes more faith to believe the universe happened at random a long time ago, all by chance. Some would dispute even Intelligent Design, but whatever happened to that 3rd Law of Thermodynamics, you know, the one of all systems tending to entropy? When Missouri legalize Pi to equal 3, the 3rd Law of Thermodynamics ate itself and it dissappeared in a flash of heat energy - which dispersed in a manner which was unrecoverable. But my gas mileage went up 30% the day it ate itself. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #43 February 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteand she is very religous. She prays for me every day and just doesn't seem to work. I guess god isn't listening. I'm not religious, or anti-religious, but when someone says they 'pray for me everyday', I thank them just like I'd thank someone that says they 'think well of me and wish me good things everyday'. I suspect you two have some kind of regular friendly banter going on. But, if not, it's pretty much the opposite of what you are doing. If not, it's pretty clear on these forums who the nice guys are in the debate. As long as I don't live very close to her where she can try to take over my life and control me everything is fine. Nothing like a thousand mile buffer zone to keep things amicable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortyj 0 #44 February 21, 2007 well crwtom you just replied to something I said and all you've seen is my picturePlaytime is essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #45 February 21, 2007 Quoteactual evidence that can quantified and stand to repeated attempts to discredit. What would constitute such evidence in your opinion? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortyj 0 #46 February 21, 2007 I bet it would be safe to say God is listening. Have you ever thought it might be you who is not listening. Playtime is essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #47 February 21, 2007 What is available? If you start with a theory and try to find the evidence your search is already flawed. Start with evidence and then form a theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #48 February 21, 2007 there has yet to be any evidence of a God listening. If it doesn't make sense to me that why would I believe it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortyj 0 #49 February 21, 2007 yet to be. keep listening Playtime is essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #50 February 21, 2007 yeah that and the second coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
