Do u beleave in God

[billvon 3,076]

>What about when God parted the sea that dosen't just happen.

I used to live near the water. At high tide I'd go down and see an island where they dumped some of the dredge tailings; it has a bunch of seagrass on it and was a good place to swim to.

Lo and behold, at low tide, God would part the seas and a land bridge would appear between me and the island! Since I wasn't with a horde of people trying to flee across Oyster Bay, I didn't get the credit for parting anything. But tides, winds, storms and earthquakes do cause the seas to draw back from land - and those things _do_ just happen on occasion.

[shortyj 0]

ok but just as the army is chasing the isrealites and when they come to the water it parts and then as the army tries to cross it comes down. we are talking about a lot of people and only God could have done that

Playtime is essential.

[billvon 3,076]

> ok but just as the army is chasing the isrealites and when they come
>to the water it parts and then as the army tries to cross it comes down.

So there was an area that people on foot could cross, but people with horses on chariots got bogged down until the tide came in. That actually sounds like most tidal marshes in the world.

>only God could have done that

Well, then, God does it twice a day in Oyster Bay! And we don't even need Moses.

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Yes.
No debate needed.
A simple answer to a simple question.

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[shortyj 0]

When I was pregnant with my first child I didn't have clothes one day I come home and there is a box of clothes on my step with a note doesn't say who its from. Do I think it fell from the sky no do I think God told someone I needed clothes yes. One time I asked Him why don't have more clients? He said because you don't ask I was like are you serious so I asked can I have 2 new clients this week? You know how many I got 2. I have lots of stories like that

Playtime is essential.

[ExAFO 0]

THis thread is useless without pictures of your BOOBIES.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[pajarito 0]

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There is no reason, however, to believe that surviving fish (those able to adapt) couldn't repopulate. That is certainly not a good argument against the global flood.

So you believe in evolution. Check!

(BTW, the entire field of geology is good evidence against a global flood.)

I can see that natural selection occurs. That is not "evolution" in the sense that New Darwinian Theorists would like it to be.

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There are roughly 350,000 species of beetle alone, now either Noah took 700,000 beetles with him on to the ark or they evolved in the few thousand years since the flood!There are 980 species of bats , again did Noah take 2000 bats with him or is the rate of bat evolution one new species every couple of years?

Why would Noah need to take more than one kind of each animal onto the ark as it says he did in the Bible?

[billvon 3,076]

>Why would Noah need to take more than one kind of each animal
>onto the ark as it says he did in the Bible?

Did you mean "more than two of each?" Most animals cannot reproduce asexually, and some (like bees) cannot reproduce without several sexes.

Even to get one of each species of land animals/non-sea birds he'd have to have taken about 3 million animals. To get two of each that's 6 million.

[kallend 2,107]

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There are roughly 350,000 species of beetle alone, now either Noah took 700,000 beetles with him on to the ark or they evolved in the few thousand years since the flood!There are 980 species of bats , again did Noah take 2000 bats with him or is the rate of bat evolution one new species every couple of years?

Why would Noah need to take more than one kind of each animal onto the ark as it says he did in the Bible?

1st prize for missing the point. Special honors for doing it deliberately.

So why do men have nipples?

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So why do men have nipples?

Because we can.

[jakee 1,564]

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I can see that natural selection occurs. That is not "evolution" in the sense that New Darwinian Theorists would like it to be.

Take random mutations, mix it in with natural selection, shake it up with a whole load of time - what do you think we call the result?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,564]

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again why would people lie about that and record it[Crazy]

So the two choices are, 1) People lie.* 2) A huge miracle happened.

Y'know, I see shit loads of examples of choice No 1 every single day of my life but I have yet to be confronted with a single example of choice No 2. Oh which one sounds more likely, I just can't decide!



* And/or exaggerated a natural phenomenon.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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When I was pregnant with my first child I didn't have clothes one day I come home and there is a box of clothes on my step with a note doesn't say who its from. Do I think it fell from the sky no do I think God told someone I needed clothes yes. One time I asked Him why don't have more clients? He said because you don't ask I was like are you serious so I asked can I have 2 new clients this week? You know how many I got 2. I have lots of stories like that

Be careful that what you ask for is for God’s purposes and not your own. Selfish desires can be easily confused with what God desires of or for you. I’m not trying to come down on you. Just something to think about.

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The Different Voices

Tune into Christian television and you will hear what is said to be in God’s will. He speaks to many preachers. So they say. God tells them what sweater to wear, what to say when, and about who and why. These are the “God told me” folks. However, any pastor or ministry/church leader worth his salt will immediately send up his antenna when he hears “God told me” terminology.

If you and I feel that we have God’s leading, it is wiser to say, “I think that I have God’s leading in this.” Of course there are many Bible verses about hearing His voice, but there’s a big problem when someone maintains that God personally “spoke” to him about doing or saying something. In essence he is saying, “I’m not open to your input. I don’t care about or want to hear what you have to say. What I’m doing is what God wants. I don’t need your wisdom. It’s God’s way (my way) or the highway.” It closes the door to godly counsel, and that can easily be perceived as being manipulative.

It is such a serious thing to say that we have had Almighty God speak to us, because it is close to saying, “Thus saith the Lord,” and in the Old Testament, getting that wrong was a death sentence. More than likely, this type of talk often comes more from the circles in which we have moved, rather than from insincerity.

Over the years, I have seen examples of earnest Christians saying, “God told me,” and they proved to be wrong. Two couples maintained that God told them that they were having baby boys. Both had girls. One earnest young man contacted me, adamant that God had told him that there was going to be an earthquake in the Seattle area. This guy was no flake. He was sincere and concerned that if someone didn’t alert authorities, many lives could be lost. So that’s what he did. He went to the media and humbly told them that God had warned him of an impending earthquake and that the people needed to be warned. There was no earthquake.

We have a number of “voices” with which to contend. First, there is the subconscious. It continually speaks to us. It’s the voice that won’t let you sleep at night when you have had a problem during the day. It works like a long chain that links one thought with another. It’s the voice that rarely stops. It feeds your mind with thoughts day in and day out. What’s more, it’s very difficult to control. Try telling yourself that you’ll turn it off. You are not going to think of anything. You’ll find that it’ll still talk to you like a dripping tap.

Second, there is the voice of your conscience. That’s a voice that we don’t really like hearing. It tells us when we infringe the Moral Law. Its moral voice is such a reality that even an atheist has difficulty in denying it. He cannot refute the fact that there is a voice that speaks to him about his morality. When he lies or steals, it makes its voice heard, irrespective of his will.

Third, there is the voice of the spiritual realm that we battle. The Christian who goes to share his faith with a stranger knows this subtle voice. It will tell him that he can’t speak to a stranger, that he will make a fool of himself. It can be a voice of discouragement or it can be the voice of sexual seduction, whispering unclean thoughts to a sinful heart. It can come as a angel of light, but its source is “spiritual wickedness in high places.”

It is because of these different voices accessing our complex minds that we need to exercise godly discernment. The way to do that is to weigh every thought with the Word of God. If love isn’t the reason for the voice you are hearing, then cast the thought down. Look at Scripture.

***Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
2 Corinthians 10:5

The Greek word used for “imagination” is logismos and, according to Vine’s Expository Dictionary, is “suggestive of evil intent, not of mere reasonings.

--Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, “Thanks a Million”

[pajarito 0]

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Did you mean "more than two of each?"

Yes. That is what I meant.

[pajarito 0]

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Take random mutations, mix it in with natural selection, shake it up with a whole load of time - what do you think we call the result?

A whole lot of faith in a religion masquerading as good science.

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So why do men have nipples?

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Why do males have nipples?

Males have nipples because of the common plan followed during early embryo development. Embryos start out producing features common to male and female—again an example of ‘design economy.’ Nipples are a part of this design economy. However, as Bergman and Howe point out, the claim that they are useless is debatable.

What is the evolutionist’s explanation for male nipples? Did males evolve (devolve) from females? Or did ancestral males suckle the young? No evolutionist would propose this. Male nipples are neither evidence for evolution nor evidence against creation.

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lets move on to something else then. What about when God parted the sea that dosen't just happen.

Sure it does... when a volcano on the other side of the sea errupts and displaces water. Google "Santerini"

[jakee 1,564]

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Take random mutations, mix it in with natural selection, shake it up with a whole load of time - what do you think we call the result?

A whole lot of faith in a religion masquerading as good science.

Whatever. Just get back to me with that method you use for calculating the information in a genome, 'kay?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,107]

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So why do men have nipples?

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Why do males have nipples?

Males have nipples because of the common plan followed during early embryo development. Embryos start out producing features common to male and female—again an example of ‘design economy.’ Nipples are a part of this design economy. However, as Bergman and Howe point out, the claim that they are useless is debatable.

What is the evolutionist’s explanation for male nipples? Did males evolve (devolve) from females? Or did ancestral males suckle the young? No evolutionist would propose this. Male nipples are neither evidence for evolution nor evidence against creation.

Why would an omnipotent designer need to exercise economy on nipples, when apparently capable of creating an entire universe and all species of animals in less than a week? That is just silly.

Evolution does, in fact, explain male nipples, the appendix, the tailbone, and the poor adaptation of our bodies to an upright posture. Creationism has to distort logic to explain any of them.

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[pajarito 0]

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Why would an omnipotent designer need to exercise economy on nipples, when apparently capable of creating an entire universe and all species of animals in less than a week? That is just silly.

Why would He not exercise economy in design? It wouldn't make sense to me otherwise. Anyway, would that do it for you? If the mystery of "male nipples" would be revealed, you might believe in God?

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Even to get one of each species of land animals/non-sea birds he'd have to have taken about 3 million animals. To get two of each that's 6 million.

You'd be correct if you had to take two of each species existing today onto the ark.

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Even to get one of each species of land animals/non-sea birds he'd have to have taken about 3 million animals. To get two of each that's 6 million.

You'd be correct if you had to take two of each species existing today onto the ark.

So are you saying that God created more animals after the flood?

[billvon 3,076]

>Why do males have nipples?

Devil: When I have the map, I will be free, and the world will be different, because I have understanding.

Henchman: Understanding of what, master?

Devil: Digital watches. And soon I will have understanding of videocassette recorders and mobile telephones. And when I have understanding of them, I shall have understanding of computers. And when I have understanding of computers, I shall be the Supreme Being!

God isn't interested in technology. He knows nothing of the potential of the microchip or the silicon revolution. Look how he spends his time: forty-three species of parrots! Nipples for men!

Henchman: And slugs.

Devil: Slugs! He created slugs! They can't hear, they can't speak, they can't operate machinery. If I were creating the world, I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would've started with lasers, eight o'clock, day one!

[dan_iv 0]

YES!