kallend 2,106 #1 February 23, 2007 www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0702230053feb23,1,6054531.story?ctrack=1&cset=true By Jeremy Manier Tribune staff reporter Published February 23, 2007 The intricate, abstract designs of Islamic art and architecture have always struck experts as the inspired expressions of a faith that forbids direct depictions of holy figures. But a new study shows that Muslim artisans working in what is now Iran went further, producing a sophisticated geometric pattern more than 500 years before Western mathematicians identified it in the 1970s and 1980s.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfloyd 0 #2 February 23, 2007 Pythagoras of Samos, a Pre-Socratic philosopher ~480BC had mathematics and geometry figured out. So this is almost 2000 years before the muslim dude did. -- I'm taking a Humanities class and this is strait from the book. Pythagoras is the guy responsible for Pythagorean Theorem --anyone that has done algebra before owes this guy a lot. My drinking team has a skydiving problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 February 23, 2007 QuotePythagoras of Samos, a Pre-Socratic philosopher ~480BC had mathematics and geometry figured out. So this is almost 2000 years before the muslim dude did. -- I'm taking a Humanities class and this is strait from the book. Pythagoras is the guy responsible for Pythagorean Theorem --anyone that has done algebra before owes this guy a lot. Something leads me to believe that the good professor already knew that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 February 23, 2007 QuoteSomething leads me to believe that the good professor already knew that. it's gnomes, they are always hiding around, whispering things in your ears ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdav 0 #5 February 23, 2007 QuoteIn Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Something leads me to believe that the good professor already knew that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it's gnomes, they are always hiding around, whispering things in your ears Oh! I thought he meant the guy from Gilligan's Island. Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!! M.P.F.C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfloyd 0 #6 February 23, 2007 Gnomes, those brilliant little bastards! My drinking team has a skydiving problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 February 23, 2007 Quoteit's gnomes, they are always hiding around, whispering things in your ears Gnomes are creepy. I usually /ignore them. Kallend, on the other hand, is a pretty clever guy but sometimes up to a little mischief.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #8 February 23, 2007 QuoteGnomes, those brilliant little bastards! Gnomes gnaw on gnats while riding on gnus.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #9 February 23, 2007 QuoteQuoteGnomes, those brilliant little bastards! Gnomes gnaw on gnats while riding on gnus. I've gnever seen that.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #10 February 23, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteGnomes, those brilliant little bastards! Gnomes gnaw on gnats while riding on gnus. I've gnever seen that. It's really quite gnarly.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #11 February 23, 2007 QuotePythagoras of Samos, a Pre-Socratic philosopher ~480BC had mathematics and geometry figured out. So this is almost 2000 years before the muslim dude did. -- I'm taking a Humanities class and this is strait from the book. Pythagoras is the guy responsible for Pythagorean Theorem --anyone that has done algebra before owes this guy a lot. What about the 47th proposition of Euclid? What did Pythagoras have to say about that? BTW, apparently you completely missed the point of the article.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 February 23, 2007 Whilst in Spain last summer, we went to the Mosque/Cathedral in Cordoba. A stunning building. But what affected me more than anything was the contrast between the Islamic and Catholic symbology. The islamic was beautiful in it's mathamatical symplicity whilst, (I at least) felt that the Catholic was gaudy (not to my taste). (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #13 February 23, 2007 Kallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #14 February 23, 2007 QuoteKallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry? Hard to tell exactly what dead people knew. Remember that Arabs invented al-gebra, they were pretty damn good mathematicians. Apparently they knew enough to come up with a quasi-periodic tiling (like a Penrose tiling), something that western mathematicians long dismissed. This is a NON-TRIVIAL task.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #15 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteKallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry? Hard to tell exactly what dead people knew. Remember that Arabs invented al-gebra, they were pretty damn good mathematicians. Apparently they knew enough to come up with a quasi-periodic tiling (like a Penrose tiling), something that western mathematicians long dismissed. This is a NON-TRIVIAL task. If this is to somehow emphasize that muslims are sophisticated, please note that the material is in the LONG PAST, as in "WERE" above. These days, they're a lot better at making improvised car bombs and decapitating people on television. That's what "Allah" really wants them to do, after all. If any muslim scholar dared to come up with anything like that today, he'd be machine-gunned in front of his students. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 February 24, 2007 Classic - thanks, I needed that. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #17 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteKallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry? Hard to tell exactly what dead people knew. Remember that Arabs invented al-gebra, they were pretty damn good mathematicians. Apparently they knew enough to come up with a quasi-periodic tiling (like a Penrose tiling), something that western mathematicians long dismissed. This is a NON-TRIVIAL task. If this is to somehow emphasize that muslims are sophisticated, please note that the material is in the LONG PAST, as in "WERE" above. These days, they're a lot better at making improvised car bombs and decapitating people on television. That's what "Allah" really wants them to do, after all. If any muslim scholar dared to come up with anything like that today, he'd be machine-gunned in front of his students. mh . Just for tiling his roof? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #18 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteKallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry? Hard to tell exactly what dead people knew. Remember that Arabs invented al-gebra, they were pretty damn good mathematicians. Apparently they knew enough to come up with a quasi-periodic tiling (like a Penrose tiling), something that western mathematicians long dismissed. This is a NON-TRIVIAL task. If this is to somehow emphasize that muslims are sophisticated, please note that the material is in the LONG PAST, as in "WERE" above. These days, they're a lot better at making improvised car bombs and decapitating people on television. That's what "Allah" really wants them to do, after all. If any muslim scholar dared to come up with anything like that today, he'd be machine-gunned in front of his students. mh . Really. Last night I went to the National Engineers Week/Washington Awards Dinner, as representative of my university. Bigots would be amazed at how many of our US engineers are Islamic, including many arabs and Iranians. Among the folks at the head table were a Palestinian and an Egyptian. I didn't notice any bigotry among the guests, but they were all well educated professionals. It's a pity that only 9 of our US Congressmen are engineers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #19 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteKallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry? Hard to tell exactly what dead people knew. Remember that Arabs invented al-gebra, they were pretty damn good mathematicians. Apparently they knew enough to come up with a quasi-periodic tiling (like a Penrose tiling), something that western mathematicians long dismissed. This is a NON-TRIVIAL task. If this is to somehow emphasize that muslims are sophisticated, please note that the material is in the LONG PAST, as in "WERE" above. These days, they're a lot better at making improvised car bombs and decapitating people on television. That's what "Allah" really wants them to do, after all. If any muslim scholar dared to come up with anything like that today, he'd be machine-gunned in front of his students. mh . Really. Last night I went to the National Engineers Week/Washington Awards Dinner, as representative of my university. Bigots would be amazed at how many of our US engineers are Islamic, including many arabs and Iranians. Among the folks at the head table were a Palestinian and an Egyptian. I didn't notice any bigotry among the guests, but they were all well educated professionals. It's a pity that only 9 of our US Congressmen are engineers. (Pssst..Kallend. I think he was referring to scholars in countries ruled by radicals. Just a guess.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #20 February 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteKallend, Did the original artists actually know geometry? Hard to tell exactly what dead people knew. Remember that Arabs invented al-gebra, they were pretty damn good mathematicians. Apparently they knew enough to come up with a quasi-periodic tiling (like a Penrose tiling), something that western mathematicians long dismissed. This is a NON-TRIVIAL task. If this is to somehow emphasize that muslims are sophisticated, please note that the material is in the LONG PAST, as in "WERE" above. These days, they're a lot better at making improvised car bombs and decapitating people on television. That's what "Allah" really wants them to do, after all. If any muslim scholar dared to come up with anything like that today, he'd be machine-gunned in front of his students. mh . Really. Last night I went to the National Engineers Week/Washington Awards Dinner, as representative of my university. Bigots would be amazed at how many of our US engineers are Islamic, including many arabs and Iranians. Among the folks at the head table were a Palestinian and an Egyptian. I didn't notice any bigotry among the guests, but they were all well educated professionals. It's a pity that only 9 of our US Congressmen are engineers. (Pssst..Kallend. I think he was referring to scholars in countries ruled by radicals. Just a guess.) Well, that's NOT what he wrote. If he's going to insult a whole class of people, he should make sure to define correctly.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #21 February 25, 2007 Rabbits engineeer subterranean burrows. There is no Rarebit to be found in these burrows.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #22 February 25, 2007 Fucking reply of the century.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #23 February 25, 2007 Who are you this week, Moses? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 February 25, 2007 No he is Al Frankens designated driver Pilot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #25 February 25, 2007 QuotePythagoras of Samos, a Pre-Socratic philosopher ~480BC had mathematics and geometry figured out. So this is almost 2000 years before the muslim dude did. -- I'm taking a Humanities class and this is strait from the book. Pythagoras is the guy responsible for Pythagorean Theorem --anyone that has done algebra before owes this guy a lot. the greeks knew about quasi-crystals ? what's the reference/evidence ? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
crwtom 0 #25 February 25, 2007 QuotePythagoras of Samos, a Pre-Socratic philosopher ~480BC had mathematics and geometry figured out. So this is almost 2000 years before the muslim dude did. -- I'm taking a Humanities class and this is strait from the book. Pythagoras is the guy responsible for Pythagorean Theorem --anyone that has done algebra before owes this guy a lot. the greeks knew about quasi-crystals ? what's the reference/evidence ? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
