IanHarrop 42 #1 March 8, 2007 Seems no matter what you do to make the world better.... "Violence and misinformation are threatening the World Health Organization's efforts to eradicate polio. Last month Abdul Ghani Khan, a senior Pakistani doctor, was killed by a remote-controlled bomb shortly after urging villagers to vaccinate their children. In Pakistan, Afghanistan and among Muslim communities in India, some local clerics have denounced vaccination as a pro-western plot to sterilise Muslims. The same rumours stopped vaccination in northern Nigeria in 2003, causing an international surge in polio cases. In Pakistan, some clerics who command a loyal local following have even declared that preventing epidemics is contrary to Islamic law, and have described people infected with polio as "martyrs". In response, senior Muslims in Pakistan have issued pro-vaccination fatwa decrees. Some mothers are reportedly getting children vaccinated secretly for fear of local reprisals..... http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19325943.000&feedId=online-news_rss20"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #2 March 8, 2007 >In Pakistan, Afghanistan and among Muslim communities in India, >some local clerics have denounced vaccination as a pro-western plot to >sterilise Muslims. Hmm. Here in the US, one similar belief is that some vaccinations are a plot to make money at the expense of children's health, and will encourage them to engage in dangerous behaviors. While I disagree with both groups, I can see how some Muslims would fear western vaccinations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #3 March 8, 2007 Quote I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. Colonel Walter Kurtz, "Apocalypse Now"Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 1 #4 March 8, 2007 those ppl in that part of the world will never,, NEVER , get up to speed on anything,, the biggest problem of why that area of the world is soo fucked up, is the uneducation, call em whatever, clerics, sheiks, religious leaders,,, dumbfucks i prefer to call them, will always have power over the ppl cause they know blind sheep who dont understand, or read/write, uneducated, will listen to them, they can tell them what they think they are suspose to know, and when ppl can't read or write or understand a simple thing, they let other ppl tell them how or why and when to sleep,eat, shit, or kill.. i have no more sympathy for any of them NO more, they have had 5000+ fucking years to figure it out,, simple, they are dumb, dumb dumb,,, sorry, but everyone has a opinion and i am just so fed up with that part of the world, i just wish it just didn't exist anymore.,. i have always hoped something will or would work and it never gets any better, after awhile, you just say, screw em.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #5 March 8, 2007 It's like a microcosm (macrocosm?) of the speaker's corner!My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 March 8, 2007 none of us got our rabies shots. but he's right, it's hard to give a fuck about societies so stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #7 March 8, 2007 I just had a thought -- Maybe this is good thing. Vaccinations, antibiotics, anything that keeps people healthy should be promoted as a tool of Satan. If they all died off..."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterB 0 #8 March 9, 2007 Then we probably would too. People living in extreme poverty or in wartorn areas have a tendency to leave for better places. And lots of them don't bother to enter the new place legally. I mean what's an arrest compared to watching your kids die of disease/malnutrition/blown up? Disease don't give a crap about artificial lines drawn arbitrarily on a graphical representation of earth. That's all that borders are. Doesn't give a fuck about laws either. Diseases like polio need to be aggresively attacked world wide. People may be poor and uneducated but my bet is that the average person there is as intelligent as the average person here. The difference is access to quality education. But sure let's just say they deserve it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #9 March 9, 2007 QuoteThen we probably would too. People living in extreme poverty or in wartorn areas have a tendency to leave for better places. And lots of them don't bother to enter the new place legally. I mean what's an arrest compared to watching your kids die of disease/malnutrition/blown up? Disease don't give a crap about artificial lines drawn arbitrarily on a graphical representation of earth. That's all that borders are. Doesn't give a fuck about laws either. Diseases like polio need to be aggresively attacked world wide. People may be poor and uneducated but my bet is that the average person there is as intelligent as the average person here. The difference is access to quality education. But sure let's just say they deserve it. I think its a long road to educate them, than the years that anyone posting on this forum has left on the earth or even longer than our children's children time to educate people that trust their religious leaders, don't trust the west and "clerics have denounced vaccination as a pro-western plot to sterilise Muslims. " And besides we keep taking the vaccinations and antibiotics "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites