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QuoteNo "evidence" of the existence of extraterrestrials has ever been PROVEN. NONE of the claims have stood up to scientific scrutiny.
Do I believe in the existence of extraterrestrials? I want to believe, but the rational, scientific mind must temper that desire with the countering philosophy - SHOW ME THE IRREFUTABLE PROOF, not just jittery videos. Then, and only then, I will believe.
It is a testament to true believers strength of desire that they would submit shit like that and expect people to take it seriously. I will be in the front row when aliens make their first official visit (why the true believer belief that aliens all want to play hide and seek?), but I'm not buying the garbage put forth so far on their behalf.
With so much readily available state-of-the-art technology available today, if there was any chance any of these encounters were genuine, we would have much better stuff on them by now. Apply the same type logic to any of the goofball stuff out there.
Bigfoot is a good one. If anyone seriously believed it, and really wanted to prove it, they'd have choppers and recon teams on the ready. Next time there is a sighting - BOOM. Scramble the choppers, throw in a few planes with all the latest sensing equipment. Teams of people and dogs on the ground. Scorched Earth level of search. No way no how is some several hundred pound clumsy woodland beast gonna disappear into the woods without a trace. Hell, with forensic sciences these days, people can barely go anywhere w/o leaving a trace.
It's a joke what these nutcases want people to believe.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
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Quote60 years of voluntary contact, 150 eyewitnesses, 1200 photos and video that the best 'debunkers' in the world cannot fabricate.
Prove there has ever been contact. Why do the nutjobs always assume that the aliens want to play hide and seek, and that the only ones who seem able to find the aliens are the fringe lunaticas of society? Any civilization advanced enough to make it here would certainly be advanced enough to understand the benefit of engagement over peeking around the corners of clouds and imitating dancing lights for the woo-woo crowd.
Show me one shred of credible evidence. Jumpy, grainy, out-of-focus bullshit doesn't count. I could shoot hours of that. What is the point? Go ahead and post a single decent photo or video. I remember a friend taking me up on that offer once. He showed me one of the classic old videos the woo-woos have as a favorite. It is so obviously a child's top, you can see the markings, the wobble, even the little pump handle. What a farce.
If you have something better than all the old standbys, let's see it.
And that alien DNA stuff. Are you kidding? If that guy is a paid professor, someone is getting badly ripped off. A DNA sequence that has it's own arteries, veins, etc. That is just wet-your-pants hysterical!
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
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QuoteMom, Dad !! Come back don't leave me here with these, crazy earthling's!
"Your mother can't be with you anymore."
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
QuoteMom, Dad !! Come back don't leave me here with these, crazy earthling's!
"Your mother can't be with you anymore."
But WHY ??
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*Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge
*Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie}
*Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge
*Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie}
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QuoteFor example, I agree it is tempting to imagine what 100 more years will bring. But don't forget large tracts of the civilized world practically stagnated for hundreds of years too. History seems to be a mixture of times when the right components come together for truly revolutionary change, and periods where not much happens.
I've never been much of a history buff, save for a few specific topics, but what you just said struck me as interesting, and it makes me want to examine some of these cycles more closely. It's funny, isn't it? It only takes a handful of people to go through a revolutionary period, but it takes hundreds of millions to stagnate.
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QuoteYour mother can't be with you anymore."
"Come. . .My son."
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Quotedo us all a favor, go to www.fastwalkers.com
Does it not strike you as strange that people wishing to reveal, "the biggest secret in the history of our world," would do so via a white-on-black website (yes, this is a disparaging term) and a dvd with cheesy text-effects, overly dramatic music, and crappy CG animation?
Wouldn't a formal conference or a scientific journal be a more appropriate venue? Is it possible that the target audience is actually a bunch of idiots that are interested in hollywood-style cinematographic nonsense rather than educated critical thinkers eager to study and know more about the world around them?
Can you imagine the response I'd get if I designed a new, more flexible, and efficient way of formatting data frames for satellite communications and I presented it to an audience with a fog machine running and lasers shooting all over the place?
QuoteQuoteYour mother can't be with you anymore."
"Come. . .My son."
Yea, are we going back to our own planet now?
*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too!
*Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge
*Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie}
*Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge
*Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie}
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QuoteCan you imagine the response I'd get if I designed a new, more flexible, and efficient way of formatting data frames for satellite communications and I presented it to an audience with a fog machine running and lasers shooting all over the place?
Do it! Do it!
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
nanook 1
My bad. . .I thought he was going off on a tangent. Looked like he was quoting "Bambi"
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QuoteThe methods used until now to detect extrasolar planets inherently select for very large and/or very hot candidates, so it's not very informative at this stage. It should improve with space based transit photometry.
http://www.kepler.arc.nasa.gov/Quote
True, true.
You will have to multiply the finds by a large number to produce a true estimate since their ecliptic plane will have to approximately align with our solar system for a detection.Quote
Yup. It's going to be a tedious, painstaking search, but the payoff will make it all worthwhile.
This is easily the most interesting mission NASA is planning right now.
Hear, hear, hear. And exciting. What a marvelous age we live in. It's a tremendous challenge, but within our lifetime, we're going to find positive proof of worlds like ours orbiting distant stars.
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."
I'm with you on the life-must-be-out-there thing. Just as a matter of probablilities given the vastness of space and time. I think it is best to be cautious on imposing our history on top of what might be happening elsewhere. Could be radically different.
For example, I agree it is tempting to imagine what 100 more years will bring. But don't forget large tracts of the civilized world practically stagnated for hundreds of years too. History seems to a mixture of times when the right components come together for truly revolutionary change, and periods where not much happens.
And there could be places where the extremes are even more extreme.
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