no7rosman 0 #1 March 22, 2007 I can't say that I have heard of worse child abuse. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23389711-details/Sadistic+foster+mother's+19-year+reign+of+terror/article.do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #2 March 22, 2007 Ah, another righteous "that's unimaginably disgusting, this person should be hanged" thread. Not sure what there is to discuss here -- it's a rare occurrence, unfortunate that she tormented these kids for as long as she did, fortunately this is not a widespread phenomenon, and hopefully she'll get a heavy punishment for what she did. And hopefully there's some way the kids can lead a normal life one day... Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #3 March 22, 2007 QuoteQuoteAh, another righteous "that's unimaginably disgusting, this person should be hanged" thread. I guess it is so depressing to routinely read about this sort of thing that there is an outlet effect to venting ones dismay at it, particularly since the rage one feels at reading such a thing is somewhat impotent. I can see however why they do tend to get repetitive I suppose. I personally find myself getting a bit to wound up when I hear about such acts of cruelty or even general meanness. QuoteAnd hopefully there's some way the kids can lead a normal life one day... Hopefully My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #4 March 22, 2007 And hopefully the irresponsible bastards who took the kids and placed them in this situation will also be jailed for a VERY long time. Oh wait, they get a free pass, nevermind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #5 March 22, 2007 QuoteQuoteAnd hopefully the irresponsible bastards who took the kids and placed them in this situation will also be jailed for a VERY long time. Wait and see. We have had problems with child services here in Canada too so maybe it is something systemic that needs to be overhauled, rather than specifically targetting individual childrens aid workers (unless an investigation suggests otherwise). It appears to happen all too often though, so I think that there needs to be some sort of investigation into how child services selects and monitors foster parents. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pfloyd 0 #6 March 22, 2007 I wonder how long it takes to turn t his into a movie--Hollywood loves to profit on the pain of others! My drinking team has a skydiving problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #7 March 23, 2007 QuoteIt appears to happen all too often though Yup and in all sorts of ways large & small. Quote rather than specifically targetting individual childrens aid workers The systematic abuse of children demands accountability from the individuals doing this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #8 March 23, 2007 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f6_1173888612 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f37_1173895695 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #9 March 23, 2007 Quote*** rather than specifically targetting individual childrens aid workers The systematic abuse of children demands accountability from the individuals doing this. Again though just jumping on the front line childrens aid worker without looking at the system and processes, might be innefective regardless of how gratifying it may be to flay the guy. If the worker acted dilligently in accordance with the policies set out by the childrens aid society then, the problem is the system and that is what needs to be changed. For all we know there may be limitations on the kind of invasive monitoring a worker can do on a potential foster parent and the person could lose his/her job for crossing that line. If however there were specific guidelines or standards of reasonable conduct set out that this person failed to adhere to then flail away. Seeing this abuse made me want someones head but I would prefer to place priority on making sure it does not happen again. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfloyd 0 #6 March 22, 2007 I wonder how long it takes to turn t his into a movie--Hollywood loves to profit on the pain of others! My drinking team has a skydiving problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #7 March 23, 2007 QuoteIt appears to happen all too often though Yup and in all sorts of ways large & small. Quote rather than specifically targetting individual childrens aid workers The systematic abuse of children demands accountability from the individuals doing this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #8 March 23, 2007 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f6_1173888612 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f37_1173895695 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #9 March 23, 2007 Quote*** rather than specifically targetting individual childrens aid workers The systematic abuse of children demands accountability from the individuals doing this. Again though just jumping on the front line childrens aid worker without looking at the system and processes, might be innefective regardless of how gratifying it may be to flay the guy. If the worker acted dilligently in accordance with the policies set out by the childrens aid society then, the problem is the system and that is what needs to be changed. For all we know there may be limitations on the kind of invasive monitoring a worker can do on a potential foster parent and the person could lose his/her job for crossing that line. If however there were specific guidelines or standards of reasonable conduct set out that this person failed to adhere to then flail away. Seeing this abuse made me want someones head but I would prefer to place priority on making sure it does not happen again. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #10 March 23, 2007 Nothing says you can't do both. I am of the firm opinion that you need to do both to ensure child welfare, but accountability is the last thing we'll see happen, your post exemplifies why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #11 March 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteNothing says you can't do both. I am of the firm opinion that you need to do both to ensure child welfare, but accountability is the last thing we'll see happen, your post exemplifies why. Why does my post exemplify why we will never see accountability? Because I don't want to shoot first and ask questions later? I am curious how the case worker was not aware of this and I would gladly see him punished to the fullest extent if he was at fault. How do we know if his job had him actually dropping in regularly or not? How do we know he had not already repeatedly reported concerns to his superiors? I don't see why it would be wrong to at least investigate before we start crucifying. I have never had a problem with severely punishing people who commit crimes but I do like to make sure we get the right person and not just a scapegoat. I also never stated that we couldn't both punish those responsible and correct the system. I simply pointed out that in the rush to hang the case worker we should not overlook systemic problems that could have lead to this or the situation will repeat itself. I was not there and to the best of my knowledge neither were you. Yes I suspect that the case worker was criminally negligent but again why not see what the inquiry uncovers? I would be glad to burn the foster mother alive and likewise to anyone in CAS who was aware/suspicious of this and did nothing. Unfortunately witch hunts that grab the most convenient scapegoat tend to produce a "cover your ass" culture which can actually be counterproductive in situations like this. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
