Why aren't the Bush daughters in Iraq?

[Andy9o8 2]

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kelley19mar19,0,5964993.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

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Why aren't the Bush daughters in Iraq?
The president's family has set an appallingly bad example for wartime sacrifice.

Jenna Bush, one of the president's twin daughters, is writing a book on her all-expenses-paid trip to Panama, where she worked for a few weeks as an intern for UNICEF. Jenna Bush is quoted as saying she will donate her earnings from her book to UNICEF, a commendable gesture, considering her father's net worth of $20 million. But while the 25-year-old makes the rounds of TV talk shows this fall in a White House limousine, dozens of her contemporaries will be arriving home from Iraq in wooden boxes. In Britain, Prince Harry is insisting on going off to Iraq — even as his country is reducing its troop commitment.

The contrast between FDR's good example during wartime and that of George W. Bush is stark and sad.

The president tells us Iraq is a "noble" war, but his wife, his children and his nieces and nephews are not listening. None has enlisted in the armed services, and none seems to be paying attention to the sacrifices of military families. Until Jenna's trip to Panama, the presidential daughters performed community service only when mandated by a court after they were cited for underage drinking. Since then they have surfaced in public during lavish presidential trips with their parents, bar-hopping outings in Georgetown and champagne-popping art openings in New York.

The only member of the Bush family to show the strains of our "troubled world" is former President George H.W. Bush, who shed tears recently while addressing the Florida Legislature. The elder Bush was talking about son Jeb's gubernatorial loss in 1994. Jeb, who was later elected, tried to console him. But the sobs of Bush 41 seemed to be more about his older son's "noble" war.

Perhaps the father's sadness sprang from his own experience fighting in what his parents called "Mr. Roosevelt's war" — the good war — the war that saved the world from tyranny. He enlisted at 18 to fly torpedo bombers. He flew 58 missions in two years and returned home a war hero. Since then, no one in his large family has seen fit to follow his sterling example of service and patriotism.

[beowulf 1]

This is just plain stupid. They aren't there because they didn't volunteer. We have a VOLUNTEER military.

[Andy9o8 2]

Sigh. I guess you missed the point of the piece, which is, "why have none of them volunteered?"

Oh, BTW, John McCain's son is headed for Iraq.

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Did you volunteer?

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[beowulf 1]

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Sigh. I guess you missed the point of the piece, which is, "why have none of them volunteered?"

Oh, BTW, John McCain's son is headed for Iraq.

Are you saying that the Presidents kids should be required to join the military? Would that make the Iraq war better?

The whole article is nothing but whining bullshit.

[Andy9o8 2]

Nice diversion.
Bush and Cheney have sent 3,000 of their generation's children off to die. You'd think that they would have raised their own children to set an example.
Like McCain obviously did.

[beowulf 1]

It's not a diversion. If you are going to bitch and whine about someone else not volunteering then you should have at least volunteered yourself. GWB can not force his children to volunteer any more then he can force you to volunteer.

[masterblaster72 0]

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It's not a diversion. If you are going to bitch and whine about someone else not volunteering then you should have at least volunteered yourself. GWB can not force his children to volunteer any more then he can force you to volunteer.

What utter bs.

Andy9o8 isn't the one saying that this is a "noble war." He's not the one sending off thousands to Iraq. Perhaps Andy9o8 doesn't even believe the war is right (perhaps he does, just being hypothetical). So why should he volunteer if he doesn't believe in it?

Those who are talking the talk should walk the walk. If the president believes so strongly in this war, he should set an example by sending his own kids as he is sending the kids of so many other families in the country. That's the point of the article; I don't see any whining in it at all.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[Zipp0 1]

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Nice diversion.
Bush and Cheney have sent 3,000 of their generation's children off to die. You'd think that they would have raised their own children to set an example.
Like McCain obviously did.

They are following Daddy's example. They got arrested quite a few times for excessive drinking while underage and they have avoided the war.

They're a chip off the old block!

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[idrankwhat 0]

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The only member of the Bush family to show the strains of our "troubled world" is former President George H.W. Bush, who shed tears recently while addressing the Florida Legislature. The elder Bush was talking about son Jeb's gubernatorial loss in 1994. Jeb, who was later elected, tried to console him.

GHW was crying because Jeb was supposed to win in 1994 and then proceed to the WH. Jeb lost and somehow W won his Texas election, laying the groundwork for the Presidential bid. Jeb was supposed to be first, then maybe W. The latter screwed it up for the former.

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Are you saying that the Presidents kids should be required to join the military? ...

Not really. But I'm a firm believer that if you're a leader, and you're insisting on sending your people to war then you should actually lead the charge in person. Some here might even refer to that as "courage of your convictions". It used to be called honor, something horribly lacking these days.

[Andy9o8 2]

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GWB can not force his children to volunteer any more then he can force you to volunteer.

Again, nice diversion.

Nobody's talking about forcing one's children to volunteer to fight in a war you have other people's children fighting in. We're talking about raising them to volunteer of their own volition, hoping they'll think: "Gee, if Daddy's going to send thousands of my age cohorts off to war, maybe I should volunteer, too, like they have, or like my grandfather did, despite his wealth and having a father who was a Senator."
Like Prince Harry.
Or like John McCain's son.

[Andy9o8 2]

Oh, by the way, there are no shortage of women soldiers in Iraq. My female cousin just got back from Iraq, as did my current secretary (also a woman). Both of them have a fair chance of getting re-deployed there on little notice.

[DJL 235]

This is idiotic and short sighted. The Bush daughters would do about as much good in Iraq as Paris Hilton.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[masterblaster72 0]

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This is idiotic and short sighted. The Bush daughters would do about as much good in Iraq as Paris Hilton.

I disagree. I think their presence in Iraq would be great for troop morale.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[beowulf 1]

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GWB can not force his children to volunteer any more then he can force you to volunteer.

Again, nice diversion.

Nobody's talking about forcing one's children to volunteer to fight in a war you have other people's children fighting in. We're talking about raising them to volunteer of their own volition, hoping they'll think: "Gee, if Daddy's going to send thousands of my age cohorts off to war, maybe I should volunteer, too, like they have, or like my grandfather did, despite his wealth and having a father who was a Senator."
Like Prince Harry.
Or like John McCain's son.

Oh really! And just how do you raise your children to volunteer to join the military??

This is still the dumbest arguement. Just because they are the Presidents kids doesn't mean they should join the military. One has nothing to do with the other.

[beowulf 1]

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It's not a diversion. If you are going to bitch and whine about someone else not volunteering then you should have at least volunteered yourself. GWB can not force his children to volunteer any more then he can force you to volunteer.

What utter bs.

Andy9o8 isn't the one saying that this is a "noble war." He's not the one sending off thousands to Iraq. Perhaps Andy9o8 doesn't even believe the war is right (perhaps he does, just being hypothetical). So why should he volunteer if he doesn't believe in it?

Those who are talking the talk should walk the walk. If the president believes so strongly in this war, he should set an example by sending his own kids as he is sending the kids of so many other families in the country. That's the point of the article; I don't see any whining in it at all.

Why should GWB's children volunteer if they don't want to??
Maybe they disagree with their father?
Either way it is his childrens decision to join or not, not GWB's.

[DJL 235]

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This is idiotic and short sighted. The Bush daughters would do about as much good in Iraq as Paris Hilton.

I disagree. I think their presence in Iraq would be great for troop morale.

She's a bit of a porker for my liking but I'm sure there are some who would find her to be quite charming.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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This is idiotic and short sighted. The Bush daughters would do about as much good in Iraq as Paris Hilton.

I disagree. I think their presence in Iraq would be great for troop morale.

send them+Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie , oh and send Britney Spears too

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[idrankwhat 0]

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This is idiotic and short sighted. The Bush daughters would do about as much good in Iraq as Paris Hilton.

I disagree. If they were over there our administration would be working hard to find a way to end this war. But more to the point, if they had enlisted when they were 18 we probably wouldn't have attacked Iraq.

[DJL 235]

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I disagree. I think their presence in Iraq would be great for troop morale.

By the way, if you're the least bit serious then you need to realize that it would only perpetuate the idea of this whole thing being "The Bush Crusade".

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[Andy9o8 2]

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This is idiotic and short sighted. The Bush daughters would do about as much good in Iraq as Paris Hilton.

I disagree. If they were over there our administration would be working hard to find a way to end this war. But more to the point, if they had enlisted when they were 18 we probably wouldn't have attacked Iraq.

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[TheAnvil 0]

This is one of the dumbest articles I have ever read. The concept of an all volunteer force seems to elude the author. The purported 'party of choice' apparently doesn't think the President's family should have a choice in joining the Armed Forces.

The mere fact that GWB's detractors can publish such a pathetic attack article in any major newspaper, even one as blatantly liberal as the LA TIMES, is a testament to the sad state of education in America.

Fucktards.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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The concept of an all volunteer force seems to elude the author. The purported 'party of choice' apparently doesn't think the President's family should have a choice in joining the Armed Forces.

That argument, which misses the point, has already been rebutted (well, thrashed ) about 4 times now in this thread.

[beowulf 1]

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The concept of an all volunteer force seems to elude the author. The purported 'party of choice' apparently doesn't think the President's family should have a choice in joining the Armed Forces.

That argument, which misses the point, has already been rebutted (well, thrashed ) about 4 times now in this thread.

No it doesn't miss the point. Your point is retarded and has no merit.