OK. THE GWOT is over. Thank GOD

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Sorry about the extras. MY 2@K HP laptop is a piece of shit latleyNo more GWOT, House committee decrees

By Rick Maze - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Apr 3, 2007 20:12:47 EDT

The House Armed Services Committee is banishing the global war on terror from the 2008 defense budget.

This is not because the war has been won, lost or even called off, but because the committee’s Democratic leadership doesn’t like the phrase.

A memo for the committee staff, circulated March 27, says the 2008 bill and its accompanying explanatory report that will set defense policy should be specific about military operations and “avoid using colloquialisms.”

The “global war on terror,” a phrase first used by President Bush shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S., should not be used, according to the memo. Also banned is the phrase the “long war,” which military officials began using last year as a way of acknowledging that military operations against terrorist states and organizations would not be wrapped up in a few years.

Committee staff members are told in the memo to use specific references to specific operations instead of the Bush administration’s catch phrases. The memo, written by Staff Director Erin Conaton, provides examples of acceptable phrases, such as “the war in Iraq,” the “war in Afghanistan, “operations in the Horn of Africa” or “ongoing military operations throughout the world.”

“There was no political intent in doing this,” said a Democratic aide who asked not to be identified. “We were just trying to avoid catch phrases.”

Josh Holly, a spokesman for Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, the committee’s former chairman and now its senior Republican, said Republicans “were not consulted” about the change.

Committee aides, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said dropping or reducing references to the global war on terror could have many purposes, including an effort to be more precise about military operations, but also has a political element involving a disagreement over whether the war in Iraq is part of the effort to combat terrorism or is actually a distraction from fighting terrorists.

House Democratic leaders who have been pushing for an Iraq withdrawal timetable have talked about the need to get combat troops out of Iraq so they can be deployed against terrorists in other parts of the world, while Republicans have said that Iraq is part of the front line in the war on terror. Rep. Ike Skelton, D-Mo., the armed services committee chairman, has been among those who have complained that having the military tied up with Iraq operations has reduced its capacity to respond to more pressing problems, like tracking down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

“This is a philosophical and political question,” said a Republican aide. “Republicans generally believe that by fighting the war on terror in Iraq, we are preventing terrorists from spreading elsewhere and are keeping them engaged so they are not attacking us at home.”

However, U.S. intelligence officials have been telling Congress that most of the violence in Iraq is the result of sectarian strife and not directly linked to terrorists, although some foreign insurgents with ties to terrorist groups have been helping to fuel the fighting.

“You have to wonder if this means that we have to rename the GWOT,” said a Republican aide, referring to the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal and the Global War on Terrorism Service Medals established in 2003 for service members involved, directly and indirectly, in military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world.

“If you are a reader of the Harry Potter books, you might describe this as the war that must not be named,” said another Republican aide. That is a reference to the fact that the villain in the Harry Potter series, Lord Voldemort, is often referred to as “he who must not be named” because of fears of his dark wizardry.

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I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Butters 0]

The Democrates never attempted to change the War on Drugs but they are attempting to change the War on Terror ... Waste of time and money!

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[Gravitymaster 0]

Where did I put my Freedom Fries?

[kelpdiver 2]

now time to cancel the Iraq offshoot of the GWOT.

Think, Mr. Bush, one year off could pay for your pork mission to Mars.

[ExAFO 0]

Hmmm... They sent the term "GWOT" to Room 101.


I propose "The War Against Terror."

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[dorbie 0]

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Hmmm... They sent the term "GWOT" to Room 101.


I propose "The War Against Terror."

Using a noun or two might be helpful here.

[Channman 2]

> Where did I put my Freedom Fries?

I understand from the post, the Dems just want to redefine GWs catch all phrase "Global War on Terror".

The one Phrase the Dems do own out right however is "Americas Defeat". The term has nothing to do with the post, but everything to do with their current political position.

[billvon 2,991]

>The one Phrase the Dems do own out right however is "Americas Defeat."

As much as the GOP owns the phrase "endless quagmire."

[rushmc 23]

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>The one Phrase the Dems do own out right however is "Americas Defeat."

As much as the GOP owns the phrase "endless quagmire."

Alright, you have defined the two choices. Which one do you support??

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,991]

>Alright, you have defined the two choices. Which one do you support??

One of the most foolish mindsets in american politics is that there are only two choices. Each side likes this state of affairs because it makes people think there _are_ only two choices (represented by only two parties) and makes it easier to skew the debate by redefining the choices.

Which do you prefer - 3000 dead US soldiers or 9000 dead US soldiers?

Which do you prefer - victory or defeat?

Which do you prefer - peace or war?

What should Bush do - fund the troops or veto their funding?

When you let parties define the questions, the answers don't mean much.

But in terms of what I support - I support withdrawal of US troops and peace in Iraq through means the Iraqi government chooses.

[Kennedy 0]

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Hmmm... They sent the term "GWOT" to Room 101.


I propose "The War Against Terror."

Using a noun or two might be helpful here.

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ter·ror
n.
-Intense, overpowering fear. See Synonyms at fear.
-One that instills intense fear: a rabid dog that became the terror of the neighborhood.
-The ability to instill intense fear: the terror of jackboots pounding down the street.
-Violence committed or threatened by a group to intimidate or coerce a population, as for military or political purposes.
-Informal An annoying or intolerable pest: that little terror of a child.

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war
–noun
1. a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation; warfare, as by land, sea, or air.
2. a state or period of armed hostility or active military operations: The two nations were at war with each other.
3. a contest carried on by force of arms, as in a series of battles or campaigns: the War of 1812.
4. active hostility or contention; conflict; contest: a war of words.
5. aggressive business conflict, as through severe price cutting in the same industry or any other means of undermining competitors: a fare war among airlines; a trade war between nations.
6. a struggle: a war for men's minds; a war against poverty.
7. armed fighting, as a science, profession, activity, or art; methods or principles of waging armed conflict: War is the soldier's business.
8. Cards. a. a game for two or more persons, played with a 52-card pack evenly divided between the players, in which each player turns up one card at a time with the higher card taking the lower, and in which, when both turned up cards match, each player lays one card face down and turns up another, the player with the higher card of the second turn taking all the cards laid down.
b. an occasion in this game when both turned up cards match.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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[xHAVOCx 0]

Call it what you will; The Democrats can name it whatever the hell they want but I believe the situation that was started is far from over.

~Z

Main Entry: 1hav•oc
Pronunciation: 'ha-v&k, -vik
Function: noun
1 : wide and general destruction; DEVASTATION; great confusion and disorder

[dorbie 0]

I should have been clearer and said common or proper nouns only, abstract nouns are not tangible things and present problems as the objective of a war.