twibbles 0 #51 April 14, 2007 Quote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. I'll have to say, remove the cause. If the reason, according to their ideology, remains, they can always find another target. No matter how much the security is tightened, sooner or later, another one would go through. More troops would/might reduce the frequency of the attack, but won't stop it completely. Just my 2 cents, feel free to pick apart my argument, i'm here to learn. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astleysean 0 #52 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,049 #53 April 15, 2007 >Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? >Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? >How do you remove the western world? You do not. You refrain from putting targets in the middle of a sea of suicide bombers, and you defend the US from foreign threats. (Note that there is a difference between killing tens of thousands of innocent people and defending yourself from a threat. Despite what the Rovians have told you, they are not identical.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #54 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #55 April 15, 2007 QuoteSo...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites twibbles 0 #56 April 15, 2007 I don't think you read what i wrote, you quoted something i quoted from someone else. What i was saying was to remove the reason behind the attack. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #57 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #58 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites astleysean 0 #59 April 15, 2007 whoops, finger trouble. Mean't to respond to Billvon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites twibbles 0 #60 April 15, 2007 No worries, we're thinking along similar lines anyway. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #61 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #62 April 16, 2007 Hers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #63 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #64 April 16, 2007 QuoteI thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... I guess you define anyone who does not support this stupidity and incompetence in Washington as libs.... The paranoia in the administration certainly shows that. The Bushies lost the support of the American people as well as the support of the whole world with his Neo-Con adventure into Iraq with his hubris and greed.... the American people have had to pay for it.. in lives lost and huge deficits...but thats ok.. the Elitists in the Administration "use" people as they see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,093 #65 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? I don't think enlistees get to choose their assignment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #66 April 16, 2007 QuoteIf you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #67 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance) QuoteHers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html So you don't define who "they" are or who they're "leaders" are and then you tell me to "open my eyes". THEN you paste a fox news link? I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #69 April 17, 2007 Quote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #70 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #71 April 18, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources. So not only does that not make sense but also you have lost this arguement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,049 #72 April 18, 2007 > I think we're fighting a losing battle. Today 157 people were killed in Baghdad. On Saturday their parliament was bombed and one of the main Baghdad bridges was blown up; on Sunday at least 34 people died in six bombings. Around 35 people are dying in that city every day, averaging over the last year. (And of course that's not counting the handful of US soldiers killed every day in Iraq.) Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #73 April 18, 2007 > That's a chilling thought...... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #74 April 18, 2007 Quote> I think we're fighting a losing battle. Today 157 people were killed in Baghdad. On Saturday their parliament was bombed and one of the main Baghdad bridges was blown up; on Sunday at least 34 people died in six bombings. Around 35 people are dying in that city every day, averaging over the last year. (And of course that's not counting the handful of US soldiers killed every day in Iraq.) Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. 4 Bombings in Baghdad Kill at Least 183 Apr 18 03:46 PM US/Eastern By STEVEN R. HURST and LAUREN FRAYER Associated Press Writers BAGHDAD (AP) - Suspected Sunni insurgents penetrated the Baghdad security net Wednesday, hitting Shiite targets with four bomb attacks that killed 183 people—the bloodiest day since the U.S. troop surge began nine weeks ago. Late Wednesday, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the arrest of the Iraqi army colonel who was in charge of security in the area around the Sadriyah market where at least 127 people died and 148 were wounded in the deadliest bombing of the day. It was the second massive blast at the market since Feb. 3. Nationwide, the number of people killed or found dead on Wednesday was 233, which equaled the highest daily death toll since The Associated Press began keeping records in May 2005. Interior Minister spokesman Brig. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf declined to comment when asked about the staggering number of deaths Wednesday, directing an Associated Press reporter to Brig. Gen.Qassim al- Moussawi, the military spokesman. His phone was turned off. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates called the bombings "horrifying" and accused al-Qaida of being behind them.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #75 April 18, 2007 Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. Quote Don't have to imagine, I've lived there, which is exactly why I understand the troop surge. It's a hard fact for some to accept but having the military there acting as a "buffer" between the battling groups truly does make a difference. Would you honestly rather have some soldiers there fighting to make a difference or would you prefer that people be left to their fate? As much as people don't like to admit it the underlying job of the US soldier is to give their life for the safety of the innocent. We are an expendable asset, and as long as one of us dying saves the life of one single civilian than we have done our jobs. So many people sit in there nice safe homes and complains about how we don't need to be there because dispite the troop surge there are so mnay bombings, but without the troop surge it would be twice as bad. No amount of soldiers can stop the attacks on innocents, but more of us can at least make it harder for those that intend to kill innocents to do their job, and this is a small victory. No one single victory wins a war, it takes time, that's all we need, time, and lots of it. Quit screaming about troops getting killed, it's par for the course and in the end it's for a greater good.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 3 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
billvon 3,049 #53 April 15, 2007 >Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? >Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? >How do you remove the western world? You do not. You refrain from putting targets in the middle of a sea of suicide bombers, and you defend the US from foreign threats. (Note that there is a difference between killing tens of thousands of innocent people and defending yourself from a threat. Despite what the Rovians have told you, they are not identical.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #54 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #55 April 15, 2007 QuoteSo...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites twibbles 0 #56 April 15, 2007 I don't think you read what i wrote, you quoted something i quoted from someone else. What i was saying was to remove the reason behind the attack. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #57 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #58 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites astleysean 0 #59 April 15, 2007 whoops, finger trouble. Mean't to respond to Billvon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites twibbles 0 #60 April 15, 2007 No worries, we're thinking along similar lines anyway. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #61 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #62 April 16, 2007 Hers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #63 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #64 April 16, 2007 QuoteI thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... I guess you define anyone who does not support this stupidity and incompetence in Washington as libs.... The paranoia in the administration certainly shows that. The Bushies lost the support of the American people as well as the support of the whole world with his Neo-Con adventure into Iraq with his hubris and greed.... the American people have had to pay for it.. in lives lost and huge deficits...but thats ok.. the Elitists in the Administration "use" people as they see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,093 #65 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? I don't think enlistees get to choose their assignment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #66 April 16, 2007 QuoteIf you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #67 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance) QuoteHers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html So you don't define who "they" are or who they're "leaders" are and then you tell me to "open my eyes". THEN you paste a fox news link? I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #69 April 17, 2007 Quote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #70 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #71 April 18, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources. So not only does that not make sense but also you have lost this arguement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,049 #72 April 18, 2007 > I think we're fighting a losing battle. Today 157 people were killed in Baghdad. On Saturday their parliament was bombed and one of the main Baghdad bridges was blown up; on Sunday at least 34 people died in six bombings. Around 35 people are dying in that city every day, averaging over the last year. (And of course that's not counting the handful of US soldiers killed every day in Iraq.) Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #73 April 18, 2007 > That's a chilling thought...... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #74 April 18, 2007 Quote> I think we're fighting a losing battle. Today 157 people were killed in Baghdad. On Saturday their parliament was bombed and one of the main Baghdad bridges was blown up; on Sunday at least 34 people died in six bombings. Around 35 people are dying in that city every day, averaging over the last year. (And of course that's not counting the handful of US soldiers killed every day in Iraq.) Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. 4 Bombings in Baghdad Kill at Least 183 Apr 18 03:46 PM US/Eastern By STEVEN R. HURST and LAUREN FRAYER Associated Press Writers BAGHDAD (AP) - Suspected Sunni insurgents penetrated the Baghdad security net Wednesday, hitting Shiite targets with four bomb attacks that killed 183 people—the bloodiest day since the U.S. troop surge began nine weeks ago. Late Wednesday, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the arrest of the Iraqi army colonel who was in charge of security in the area around the Sadriyah market where at least 127 people died and 148 were wounded in the deadliest bombing of the day. It was the second massive blast at the market since Feb. 3. Nationwide, the number of people killed or found dead on Wednesday was 233, which equaled the highest daily death toll since The Associated Press began keeping records in May 2005. Interior Minister spokesman Brig. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf declined to comment when asked about the staggering number of deaths Wednesday, directing an Associated Press reporter to Brig. Gen.Qassim al- Moussawi, the military spokesman. His phone was turned off. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates called the bombings "horrifying" and accused al-Qaida of being behind them.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #75 April 18, 2007 Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. Quote Don't have to imagine, I've lived there, which is exactly why I understand the troop surge. It's a hard fact for some to accept but having the military there acting as a "buffer" between the battling groups truly does make a difference. Would you honestly rather have some soldiers there fighting to make a difference or would you prefer that people be left to their fate? As much as people don't like to admit it the underlying job of the US soldier is to give their life for the safety of the innocent. We are an expendable asset, and as long as one of us dying saves the life of one single civilian than we have done our jobs. So many people sit in there nice safe homes and complains about how we don't need to be there because dispite the troop surge there are so mnay bombings, but without the troop surge it would be twice as bad. No amount of soldiers can stop the attacks on innocents, but more of us can at least make it harder for those that intend to kill innocents to do their job, and this is a small victory. No one single victory wins a war, it takes time, that's all we need, time, and lots of it. Quit screaming about troops getting killed, it's par for the course and in the end it's for a greater good.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 3 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Amazon 7 #55 April 15, 2007 QuoteSo...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twibbles 0 #56 April 15, 2007 I don't think you read what i wrote, you quoted something i quoted from someone else. What i was saying was to remove the reason behind the attack. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #57 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #58 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites astleysean 0 #59 April 15, 2007 whoops, finger trouble. Mean't to respond to Billvon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites twibbles 0 #60 April 15, 2007 No worries, we're thinking along similar lines anyway. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #61 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #62 April 16, 2007 Hers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #63 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #64 April 16, 2007 QuoteI thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... I guess you define anyone who does not support this stupidity and incompetence in Washington as libs.... The paranoia in the administration certainly shows that. The Bushies lost the support of the American people as well as the support of the whole world with his Neo-Con adventure into Iraq with his hubris and greed.... the American people have had to pay for it.. in lives lost and huge deficits...but thats ok.. the Elitists in the Administration "use" people as they see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,093 #65 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? I don't think enlistees get to choose their assignment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #66 April 16, 2007 QuoteIf you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #67 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance) QuoteHers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html So you don't define who "they" are or who they're "leaders" are and then you tell me to "open my eyes". THEN you paste a fox news link? I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #69 April 17, 2007 Quote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #70 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #71 April 18, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources. So not only does that not make sense but also you have lost this arguement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #58 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites astleysean 0 #59 April 15, 2007 whoops, finger trouble. Mean't to respond to Billvon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites twibbles 0 #60 April 15, 2007 No worries, we're thinking along similar lines anyway. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #61 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #62 April 16, 2007 Hers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #63 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #64 April 16, 2007 QuoteI thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... I guess you define anyone who does not support this stupidity and incompetence in Washington as libs.... The paranoia in the administration certainly shows that. The Bushies lost the support of the American people as well as the support of the whole world with his Neo-Con adventure into Iraq with his hubris and greed.... the American people have had to pay for it.. in lives lost and huge deficits...but thats ok.. the Elitists in the Administration "use" people as they see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,093 #65 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? I don't think enlistees get to choose their assignment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #66 April 16, 2007 QuoteIf you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #67 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance) QuoteHers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html So you don't define who "they" are or who they're "leaders" are and then you tell me to "open my eyes". THEN you paste a fox news link? I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #69 April 17, 2007 Quote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #70 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astleysean 0 #59 April 15, 2007 whoops, finger trouble. Mean't to respond to Billvon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twibbles 0 #60 April 15, 2007 No worries, we're thinking along similar lines anyway. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #61 April 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #62 April 16, 2007 Hers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #63 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #64 April 16, 2007 QuoteI thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... I guess you define anyone who does not support this stupidity and incompetence in Washington as libs.... The paranoia in the administration certainly shows that. The Bushies lost the support of the American people as well as the support of the whole world with his Neo-Con adventure into Iraq with his hubris and greed.... the American people have had to pay for it.. in lives lost and huge deficits...but thats ok.. the Elitists in the Administration "use" people as they see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,093 #65 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? I don't think enlistees get to choose their assignment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #66 April 16, 2007 QuoteIf you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #67 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance) QuoteHers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html So you don't define who "they" are or who they're "leaders" are and then you tell me to "open my eyes". THEN you paste a fox news link? I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ErricoMalatesta 0 #69 April 17, 2007 Quote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #62 April 16, 2007 Hers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #63 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #64 April 16, 2007 QuoteI thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... I guess you define anyone who does not support this stupidity and incompetence in Washington as libs.... The paranoia in the administration certainly shows that. The Bushies lost the support of the American people as well as the support of the whole world with his Neo-Con adventure into Iraq with his hubris and greed.... the American people have had to pay for it.. in lives lost and huge deficits...but thats ok.. the Elitists in the Administration "use" people as they see fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,093 #65 April 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...how ARE those 'Lib Battalions' working out in Afghanistan, anyway? PSSST. last time I checked Mike... Bahgdad is in IRAQ....we have been talking about the administration lies and incompetence in IRAQ....SOOOOO If you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. I thought the Libs supported Afghanistan... you mean they're not mobbing the Army recruiters there in Beverly Hills, demanding to enlist and go to Afghanistan?? I don't think enlistees get to choose their assignment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #66 April 16, 2007 QuoteIf you support the war.. or stand to profit from war.. then by all means you need to be volunteering ...period. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #67 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>So how would billvon stop suicide bombers? Remove their targets. Remove their targets? Have you been paying attention? Since when were suicide bombers restricted to Iraq? How do you remove the western world? Well firstly the 'western world' is a misleading blanket term and 'terrorists' are not throwing their lives away to get the 'western world'. The Arab world is pissed off, and rightfully so, because the UK and US ('western world') have been arse fucking them for over a century. No one is jealously blowing themselves up over, 'freedom', 'democracy' or any other bullshit buzzword which is ironically limited in both western countries perpetrating the violence. You had better take a look and see what their leaders are saying. Your post proves you have not listened to them. "Their leaders" and "them" are who? Zarqawi? Osama? Yeah... they were fed up with U.S interference in the Arab world, they said it over and over again. Present day Iraq or the occupied territories? Well try living in a society with a foreign occupying force that keeps killing everyone, you will soon get fed up. Bali, London tube and Spanish metro? Maybe with a stretch you could say they were ‘Islam destroying the west’…a stretch being that they were isolated events by a tiny group of (british national and south east asian) idiots. Hardly a representation of Islam or even violent Arabic Islam. Go look at what the leaders were saying befor Bush, before Iraq, hell before Bush the 1st. You may get your eyes opened (if you care to take the chance) QuoteHers is a hint http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266203,00.html So you don't define who "they" are or who they're "leaders" are and then you tell me to "open my eyes". THEN you paste a fox news link? I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #68 April 17, 2007 I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #69 April 17, 2007 Quote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #70 April 17, 2007 QuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #71 April 18, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote I am sitting here secure in the fact now you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you do not seem to want to. So be it Its fairly hard when you don't explain a single thing you say when asked to and just drivel on about "their leaders" and post a link to the fox network. But hey I will ask a third time, feel free to explain what it is your talking about. Keep asking. I don't have the time to pull the info (AGAIN) for someone wanting me to do the research for them and then bask the sources. So not only does that not make sense but also you have lost this arguement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #72 April 18, 2007 > I think we're fighting a losing battle. Today 157 people were killed in Baghdad. On Saturday their parliament was bombed and one of the main Baghdad bridges was blown up; on Sunday at least 34 people died in six bombings. Around 35 people are dying in that city every day, averaging over the last year. (And of course that's not counting the handful of US soldiers killed every day in Iraq.) Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #73 April 18, 2007 > That's a chilling thought...... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #74 April 18, 2007 Quote> I think we're fighting a losing battle. Today 157 people were killed in Baghdad. On Saturday their parliament was bombed and one of the main Baghdad bridges was blown up; on Sunday at least 34 people died in six bombings. Around 35 people are dying in that city every day, averaging over the last year. (And of course that's not counting the handful of US soldiers killed every day in Iraq.) Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. 4 Bombings in Baghdad Kill at Least 183 Apr 18 03:46 PM US/Eastern By STEVEN R. HURST and LAUREN FRAYER Associated Press Writers BAGHDAD (AP) - Suspected Sunni insurgents penetrated the Baghdad security net Wednesday, hitting Shiite targets with four bomb attacks that killed 183 people—the bloodiest day since the U.S. troop surge began nine weeks ago. Late Wednesday, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the arrest of the Iraqi army colonel who was in charge of security in the area around the Sadriyah market where at least 127 people died and 148 were wounded in the deadliest bombing of the day. It was the second massive blast at the market since Feb. 3. Nationwide, the number of people killed or found dead on Wednesday was 233, which equaled the highest daily death toll since The Associated Press began keeping records in May 2005. Interior Minister spokesman Brig. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf declined to comment when asked about the staggering number of deaths Wednesday, directing an Associated Press reporter to Brig. Gen.Qassim al- Moussawi, the military spokesman. His phone was turned off. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates called the bombings "horrifying" and accused al-Qaida of being behind them.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #75 April 18, 2007 Imagine what it's like to live in a city where the Virginia Tech massacre would represent a better than average day. Quote Don't have to imagine, I've lived there, which is exactly why I understand the troop surge. It's a hard fact for some to accept but having the military there acting as a "buffer" between the battling groups truly does make a difference. Would you honestly rather have some soldiers there fighting to make a difference or would you prefer that people be left to their fate? As much as people don't like to admit it the underlying job of the US soldier is to give their life for the safety of the innocent. We are an expendable asset, and as long as one of us dying saves the life of one single civilian than we have done our jobs. So many people sit in there nice safe homes and complains about how we don't need to be there because dispite the troop surge there are so mnay bombings, but without the troop surge it would be twice as bad. No amount of soldiers can stop the attacks on innocents, but more of us can at least make it harder for those that intend to kill innocents to do their job, and this is a small victory. No one single victory wins a war, it takes time, that's all we need, time, and lots of it. Quit screaming about troops getting killed, it's par for the course and in the end it's for a greater good.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 3 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
