rehmwa 2 #26 April 20, 2007 QuoteThere is a notion among the anti-gun crowd that the average person frequently gets angry enough that he or she would kill someone if he or she had easy access to a firearm. They consider themselves an "average person". In otherwords, they want to protect us from themselves because that's what they'd do. I think it's noble that they realize how unsettled they are. It's just the juvenile view that they think everyone is a carbon copy of them that's hard to accept. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #27 April 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteThere is a notion among the anti-gun crowd that the average person frequently gets angry enough that he or she would kill someone if he or she had easy access to a firearm. They consider themselves an "average person". In otherwords, they want to protect us from themselves because that's what they'd do. I think it's noble that they realize how unsettled they are. It's just the juvenile view that they think everyone is a carbon copy of them that's hard to accept. I think everyone has had thoughts along the lines of, "I was so mad that if I'd had a gun, I think I would have....." However, when faced with an identical situation, while in possession of a gun, most of us realize that we're actually a LONG way from crossing that line. I think that's probably the thought process that leads the anti-gun crowd to think armed citizens are a prescription for a return to the "wild west."I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #28 April 20, 2007 Quote... armed citizens are a prescription for a return to the "wild west." They also likely greatly overdramatize the Wild West. Clint Eastwood is just an actor, folks! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #29 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote ... armed citizens are a prescription for a return to the "wild west." They also likely greatly overdramatize the Wild West. Clint Eastwood is just an actor, folks! not to the NRA he isn't, he's a role model.... or is that Charlton heston? i get those cunts mixed up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #30 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote No, just those who are legally allowed to carry concealed weapons. great Brilliant ..and we can stop selling car to people because they drink and drive and then they kill people Brilliant"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #31 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote Quote No, just those who are legally allowed to carry concealed weapons. great Brilliant ..and we can stop selling car to people because they drink and drive and then they kill people Brilliant phew, at least you haven't said that my senario wouldn't happen, cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote No, just those who are legally allowed to carry concealed weapons. great Brilliant silly boy. I thought you were talking about all of the students carrying a gun. So if the assailant stole one guy's gun, the rest of 'em could shoot his ass dead. Makes sense to me. yes, makes sense to me too I hope they can catch any classroom gunfights on camera... would be better than High Noon ! Lets see, when Florida passed conseal carry laws the gun control people said that Florida would be called the "Gun Shine State". Texas passed a similar law (at the same time over 15 years ago I think) and Texas was going to revert back to the times of the wild wild west. I guess the fact that both of these dire perdictions came true support your most logical conclusion??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges have you any idea just how bizzare you sound to the average Brit on here? "to the average Brit" being the operative term.... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #34 April 20, 2007 Quotegreat let the person allowed to carry a concealed weapon, carry it into school... then let them be mugged and have it taken off them, then let the thug who mugged them shoot the class up Is the thug also going to class or is he just wandering the halls? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #35 April 20, 2007 QuoteQuotegreat let the person allowed to carry a concealed weapon, carry it into school... then let them be mugged and have it taken off them, then let the thug who mugged them shoot the class up Is the thug also going to class or is he just wandering the halls? he's going to class, he knows who's got a gun and is targetting them, anything else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #36 April 20, 2007 So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges Quote have you any idea just how bizzare you sound to the average Brit on here? That's probably because we don't speak Engish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #37 April 20, 2007 Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges Quote have you any idea just how bizzare you sound to the average Brit on here? That's probably because we don't speak Engish. stop pissing on my fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #38 April 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotegreat let the person allowed to carry a concealed weapon, carry it into school... then let them be mugged and have it taken off them, then let the thug who mugged them shoot the class up Is the thug also going to class or is he just wandering the halls? he's going to class, he knows who's got a gun and is targetting them, anything else? Ok, so how does he know who has a gun? Key word here: Concealed. I know you know what it means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #39 April 20, 2007 QuoteWhich is why I favor the new gun technology that will only fire when held by the owner, as I mentioned earlier. Expensive yes, but could be worth it. Any legislation on the subject has always exempted cops from being required to use such technology, despite the fact that they face the greatest risk of having their gun turned on them. Expensive is only half the problem. Reliable is the biggie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #40 April 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotegreat let the person allowed to carry a concealed weapon, carry it into school... then let them be mugged and have it taken off them, then let the thug who mugged them shoot the class up Is the thug also going to class or is he just wandering the halls? he's going to class, he knows who's got a gun and is targetting them, anything else? Why would he know who has a gun? "Concealed" means hidden from view. With proper concealed cary you don't know who has a gun. This works to the advantage of both the people carying firearms (they can't be singled out by criminals or upset people who lead sheltered lives where they only met good people) and those who aren't (when criminals don't know who'se packing they switch to non-confrontational crimes). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #41 April 20, 2007 Quote Expensive is only half the problem. Reliable is the biggie. Not to mention the problem with equipping this technology into guns like my ComBloc Makarov. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #42 April 20, 2007 Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges What stopped the massacre? When armed good guys arrived. Only then did he realize that his work was finished, and he gave up and shot himself. So wouldn't it have been nice to have armed good guys there much earlier, to minimize the death toll? You can do one of two things: 1) Confront the punk with armed force to stop him, or; 2) Do nothing and let him continue to kill. You apparently prefer to maximize the odds for the bad guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #43 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges What stopped the massacre? When armed good guys arrived. Only then did he realize that his work was finished, and he gave up and shot himself. So wouldn't it have been nice to have armed good guys there much earlier, to minimize the death toll? You can do one of two things: 1) Confront the punk with armed force to stop him, or; 2) Do nothing and let him continue to kill. You apparently prefer to maximize the odds for the bad guy. there really is no responce to this kind of post, except... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #44 April 20, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges What stopped the massacre? When armed good guys arrived. Only then did he realize that his work was finished, and he gave up and shot himself. So wouldn't it have been nice to have armed good guys there much earlier, to minimize the death toll? You can do one of two things: 1) Confront the punk with armed force to stop him, or; 2) Do nothing and let him continue to kill. You apparently prefer to maximize the odds for the bad guy. there really is no responce to this kind of post, except... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #45 April 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges What stopped the massacre? When armed good guys arrived. Only then did he realize that his work was finished, and he gave up and shot himself. So wouldn't it have been nice to have armed good guys there much earlier, to minimize the death toll? You can do one of two things: 1) Confront the punk with armed force to stop him, or; 2) Do nothing and let him continue to kill. You apparently prefer to maximize the odds for the bad guy. there really is no responce to this kind of post, except... (with knobs on) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #46 April 21, 2007 Quote So, some peoples responce to yet another school masacres in america, is to have/allow even more guns in to school/colleges have you any idea just how bizzare you sound to the average Brit on here? Trollin' Trollin' Trollin'... [/Rawhide]Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 April 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote No, just those who are legally allowed to carry concealed weapons. great Brilliant Good point. Even if you have a concealed weapon on your body, you'd still need eyes in the back of your head to catch anybody sneaking up from behind to whack you before you have a chance to draw the weapon. Which is why I favor the new gun technology that will only fire when held by the owner, as I mentioned earlier. Expensive yes, but could be worth it. When they make it reliable enough for the police/military to implement it, I'll take it seriously.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #48 April 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteAlot of anti-gun people said all the CHL people would be shooting each other over parking spots, etc.. It simply hasn't happened. There is a notion among the anti-gun crowd that the average person frequently gets angry enough that he or she would kill someone if he or she had easy access to a firearm. This simply isn't supported by the evidence. Most CHL holders actually respect the grave responsibility that comes with carrying a firearm and have a deep appreciation for the sanctity of life. It's called "projection"... more here.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #49 April 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote No, just those who are legally allowed to carry concealed weapons. great Brilliant For one you should not be advertising you have a CCW or be brandising. Kind of defeats the purpose eh?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Murderer 0 #50 April 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote No, just those who are legally allowed to carry concealed weapons. great Brilliant For one you should not be advertising you have a CCW or be brandising. Kind of defeats the purpose eh? of course !!!! i get it now... nobody has ever been found out to be CCW have they !!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
