Glad we fixed that problem!

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/08/iraq.deathpenalty/index.html

At least getting rid of Saddam stopped all the tortures and executions of Iraqi citizens.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[JohnnyD 0]

It did stop all the torture and executions - committed by Saddam.
Unfortunately, the US has far greater resources and is much more efficient at it.

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It did stop all the torture and executions - committed by Saddam.
Unfortunately, the US has far greater resources and is much more efficient at it.

Lemme know when we break out the wood chippers and acid vats, m'kay?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[billvon 3,072]

>Lemme know when we break out the wood chippers and acid vats, m'kay?

I can remember back when war supporters were touting how removal of a murderous torture was a moral imperative. Bush shortly after the war began:

"We also ended one of the cruelest regimes in our time. Saddam’s rape rooms and torture chambers and children’s prisons are closed forever. His mass graves will claim no victims. The world was right to confront the regime of Saddam Hussein, and we were right to end the regime of Saddam Hussein."

It was easy for some to believe in this good, righteous thing we had done.

How far war supporters have fallen since. Whereas once they advocated removal of a torturer as a moral imperative, they now have retreated to "our methods of torture are not as bad as Saddam's were."

Some other advances -

The mass graves in Iraq now are not as big as the mass graves were when Saddam was in power.

Our rape rooms are much less efficient.

Government death squads are now less well trained.

We torture fewer people to death.

We keep fewer children in our secret prisons than Saddam did.

[JohnnyD 0]

Breaking news!

May 9, 2007
Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the US State Department today proclaimed that the United States does not torture prisoners. This, of course, would not include enemy combatants, who are not prisoners and don't fall under the protections of the Geneva Conventions. These combatants are clearly a threat to America and are forced to drink water upside down through their nose while having their Islamic balls shocked off. Accordingly, they are afforded no protections under the US Constitution because they are imprisoned outside US soil expressly for that purpose.
To clarify in closing, The United States does not torture prisoners.

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Some other advances -

The mass graves in Iraq now are not as big as the mass graves were when Saddam was in power.

Our rape rooms are much less efficient.

Government death squads are now less well trained.

We torture fewer people to death.

We keep fewer children in our secret prisons than Saddam did.

While I agree with all that, are we not killing Iraqis in far greater numbers than SH was?

[billvon 3,072]

>are we not killing Iraqis in far greater numbers than SH was?

We have a long ways to go before we exceed his total. Let's hope our government comes to its senses before then.

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Breaking news!

May 9, 2007
Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the US State Department today proclaimed that the United States does not torture prisoners. This, of course, would not include enemy combatants, who are not prisoners and don't fall under the protections of the Geneva Conventions. These combatants are clearly a threat to America and are forced to drink water upside down through their nose while having their Islamic balls shocked off. Accordingly, they are afforded no protections under the US Constitution because they are imprisoned outside US soil expressly for that purpose.
To clarify in closing, The United States does not torture prisoners.

Are you talking about the old, quaint torture definition or the new and improved Gonzalez version?

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Breaking news!

May 9, 2007
Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the US State Department today proclaimed that the United States does not torture prisoners. This, of course, would not include enemy combatants, who are not prisoners and don't fall under the protections of the Geneva Conventions. These combatants are clearly a threat to America and are forced to drink water upside down through their nose while having their Islamic balls shocked off. Accordingly, they are afforded no protections under the US Constitution because they are imprisoned outside US soil expressly for that purpose.
To clarify in closing, The United States does not torture prisoners.

Are you talking about the old, quaint torture definition or the new and improved Gonzalez version?

OH NO3S!!!1! NOT TEH B3LLY SLAPZ!!!!

I don't think what has happened is right - but equating psychological stressor techniques to acid pits, rape rooms and wood chippers is asinine, as well.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Are you talking about the old, quaint torture definition or the new and improved Gonzalez version?

OH NO3S!!!1! NOT TEH B3LLY SLAPZ!!!!

I don't think what has happened is right - but equating psychological stressor techniques to acid pits, rape rooms and wood chippers is asinine, as well.

[billvon 3,072]

>but equating psychological stressor techniques to acid pits, rape
>rooms and wood chippers is asinine, as well.

Calling drowning, sexual assault, palestinian crucifixion and roasting alive "psychological stressors" is pretty asinine too.

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>but equating psychological stressor techniques to acid pits, rape
>rooms and wood chippers is asinine, as well.

Calling drowning, sexual assault, palestinian crucifixion and roasting alive "psychological stressors" is pretty asinine too.

Both of you cut it out.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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>but equating psychological stressor techniques to acid pits, rape
>rooms and wood chippers is asinine, as well.

Calling drowning, sexual assault, palestinian crucifixion and roasting alive "psychological stressors" is pretty asinine too.

Yes, they're certainly doing all that at Gitmo, now aren't they... btw, you forgot the electrodes on the genitals and "being raped by a female soldier" (now that last one is hilarious)

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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"palestinian crucifixion"

ATTENTION PALESTINIANS: we do not actually crucify palestinians in the U.S. ... please do not chop off some white guy's head this weekend.

[popsjumper 2]

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...Both of you cut it out.

I love it!
"Your one Warning."

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[jakee 1,563]

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Yes, they're certainly doing all that at Gitmo, now aren't they... btw, you forgot the electrodes on the genitals and "being raped by a female soldier" (now that last one is hilarious)

Shall I see if I can find some butch chick to come round your house and stick a broom handle up your arse?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Yes, they're certainly doing all that at Gitmo, now aren't they... btw, you forgot the electrodes on the genitals and "being raped by a female soldier" (now that last one is hilarious)

Shall I see if I can find some butch chick to come round your house and stick a broom handle up your arse?

Um...no.

The "claim" mentioned was that the person was supposedly forced to have intercourse with a female soldier.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Both of you cut it out.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Amazon 7]

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Shall I see if I can find some butch chick to come round your house and stick a broom handle up your arse?

There has to be a Helga's House Of Pain kinda place SOMEWHERE there in Kosovo..

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Shall I see if I can find some butch chick to come round your house and stick a broom handle up your arse?

There has to be a Helga's House Of Pain kinda place SOMEWHERE there in Kosovo..

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706