Rated "R" for Smoking

[lawrocket 3]

The MPAA (One of my least favorite organizations) has decided that smoking will be a bigger factor in determining ratings.

Of course, there are those out there who are disappointed with the MPAA.

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Some critics of Hollywood's depictions of tobacco in films have urged that movies that show smoking be assigned an R rating, which would restrict those younger than 17 from seeing them.

"I'm glad it's finally an issue they're taking up, but what they're proposing does not go far enough and is not going to make a difference," said Kori Titus, spokeswoman for Breathe California, which opposes film images of tobacco use that might encourage young people to start smoking.

Link http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070510/ap_en_ot/film_movie_ratings_smoking

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[beowulf 1]

I really don't care one way or the other on this topic. Smoking is a nasty habit. I can't hardly stand being around people who are smoking and avoid going to bars any more because of it. It seems the older I get the less tolerant of cigarrette smoke I am.

[rehmwa 2]

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I really don't care one way or the other on this topic. Smoking is a nasty habit. I can't hardly stand being around people who are smoking and avoid going to bars any more because of it. It seems the older I get the less tolerant of cigarrette smoke I am.

I'm with this point.

And, I don't know a single person that actually look at movie ratings at all. They are completely screwed up and meaningless. The Ratings system is a complete waste of energy.

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[Zipp0 1]

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I really don't care one way or the other on this topic. Smoking is a nasty habit. I can't hardly stand being around people who are smoking and avoid going to bars any more because of it. It seems the older I get the less tolerant of cigarrette smoke I am.

Yeah, I agree - Keep them lungs healthy, but FUCK the liver!

Drinking is a nasy habit too, bud, as is picking your nose, and some would argue, skydiving.

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[beowulf 1]

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I really don't care one way or the other on this topic. Smoking is a nasty habit. I can't hardly stand being around people who are smoking and avoid going to bars any more because of it. It seems the older I get the less tolerant of cigarrette smoke I am.

Yeah, I agree - Keep them lungs healthy, but FUCK the liver!

Drinking is a nasy habit too, bud, as is picking your nose, and some would argue, skydiving.

Right I am not trying to say that I don't have any bad habits. Cigarrette smoke affects everyone around the smoker. Those examples of bad habits don't necessarily affect everyone around the person.

[rehmwa 2]

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I really don't care one way or the other on this topic. Smoking is a nasty habit. I can't hardly stand being around people who are smoking and avoid going to bars any more because of it. It seems the older I get the less tolerant of cigarrette smoke I am.

Yeah, I agree - Keep them lungs healthy, but FUCK the liver!

Drinking is a nasy habit too, bud, as is picking your nose, and some would argue, skydiving.

You have a point as soon as drinking involves walking up to each person in a 50 foot radius and spitting your drink into their faces and actually forcing them to drink a bit of it.

Right now, at least it's only your own liver. And not other's livers, or comfort, etc.

But that would be a very strange bar that some people might like.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Rookie120 0]

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Yeah, I agree - Keep them lungs healthy, but FUCK the liver!

Drinking is a nasy habit too, bud, as is picking your nose, and some would argue, skydiving.

Never thought of that. I didnt drink the last time I was at a bar except for Pepsi. I was the designated asshat that had to drive the drunks. I hate that.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[masterrig 1]

I think, it's a cop-out! If, parents are so concerned that their kid is going to start smoking, just to emulate some actor, the parent is falling-down on the job. Parents need to know, just what their kids are doing. I think, a kid is going to try more to be like one of his peers than some actor.


Chuck

[ExAFO 0]

What about rating films "R" for farting Marmosets?

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[Zipp0 1]

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I really don't care one way or the other on this topic. Smoking is a nasty habit. I can't hardly stand being around people who are smoking and avoid going to bars any more because of it. It seems the older I get the less tolerant of cigarrette smoke I am.

Yeah, I agree - Keep them lungs healthy, but FUCK the liver!

Drinking is a nasy habit too, bud, as is picking your nose, and some would argue, skydiving.

You have a point as soon as drinking involves walking up to each person in a 50 foot radius and spitting your drink into their faces and actually forcing them to drink a bit of it.

Right now, at least it's only your own liver. And not other's livers, or comfort, etc.

But that would be a very strange bar that some people might like.

Drunks and alcohol affect everyone. People drink and drive, killing instantly their victims, instead of maybe making them uncomfortable. Drinking drives up insurance costs for all of society due to increased accidents and health problems.

I'd suggest if you are worried about your health, steer clear of the bars. Looking down your nose at a smoker, while at the same time doing a shot of Jack Daniels is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Also, please stop driving your car past my house - the second hand smoke from your exhaust is freaking killing me.

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[rehmwa 2]

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Also, please stop driving your car past my house - the second hand smoke from your exhaust is freaking killing me.

It's only 12 times a day, just so we know you are safe and comfy.

Not looking down on smokers, it's a crappy addiction and I wish them the best in breaking it.

Drunks are a separate discussion and I agree with you there. Tying them together is like saying Clinton got a blow job.

Drinking a shot is hypocrisy? What if they don't drive?

Personally? - asthma, migraines, watching family members die from cancer? Yeah, I have an opinion, especially on smokers that insist on smoking in non-smoking establishments. Restaurants with non-smoking areas that are jokes. Establishment that you have to traverse THROUGH the smoking areas to get to the non-S areas (which are always more full than the others, but the owner refuse to see that). And those that smoke around children too. It's not looking down, it's self defense.

People can do what they want. Establishments should be able to choose how they want to run their places. That's fine. But to ignore or downplay the real issue is just selfish rationalization. I'd much rather hear them admit "I want to do it and don't care about those around me. I'm too weak to quit and don't care enough to change for others." That would get respect and acceptance.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[shropshire 0]

Have to disagree with you again (sorry).. But not all people who drink also DUI but All smokers that smoke in company affect those around them.. so you're not really comparing like with like.

I dont particularly care if folks smoke, provided that I'm not anywhere near by. It's their life but I dont want them killing me with their crap.

My wife suffers from asthma, so we dont go to the pub too often these days... but Whooopppe, come 1st July, pubs in England will join Scotland, Ireland and Wales to be smoke free and I for one can't wait.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Zipp0 1]

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Have to disagree with you again (sorry).. But not all people who drink also DUI but All smokers that smoke in company affect those around them.. so you're not really comparing like with like.

ALL people who drink have driven above the legal limit at some point in their lives. They are a much greater proven danger to the public than smoking.

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I dont particularly care if folks smoke, provided that I'm not anywhere near by. It's their life but I dont want them killing me with their crap.

My wife suffers from asthma, so we dont go to the pub too often these days... but Whooopppe, come 1st July, pubs in England will join Scotland, Ireland and Wales to be smoke free and I for one can't wait.

There is no proven connection between second hand smoke and cancer or cardiovascular disease. As for asthma, I can understand the problems there.

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[champu 1]

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"I'm glad it's finally an issue they're taking up, but what they're proposing does not go far enough and is not going to make a difference," said Kori Titus, spokeswoman for Breathe California, which opposes film images of tobacco use that might encourage young people to start smoking.

In all honesty though, a cigarette certainly does take the edge off of just having dismembered someone with a chainsaw.

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

Bruce Willis has been posting on a certain movie fanboy site this past week after his Vanity Fair story related to PG13 rating of Die hard 4. One thing he keeps repeating is that after the death of a certain MPAA leader, that the Movie Rating system will get a drastic change.

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[shropshire 0]

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"The weight of the statistics show that there is more likely to be an effect than not to be an effect. The risk is a small one but the evidence certainly does not prove that no risk is present."

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It may not be proven beyond responable doubt, but I for one am not willing to risk it for me nor my family. Apart from anything else, it's thouroughly unpleasant.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[beowulf 1]

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Have to disagree with you again (sorry).. But not all people who drink also DUI but All smokers that smoke in company affect those around them.. so you're not really comparing like with like.

ALL people who drink have driven above the legal limit at some point in their lives. They are a much greater proven danger to the public than smoking.

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I dont particularly care if folks smoke, provided that I'm not anywhere near by. It's their life but I dont want them killing me with their crap.

My wife suffers from asthma, so we dont go to the pub too often these days... but Whooopppe, come 1st July, pubs in England will join Scotland, Ireland and Wales to be smoke free and I for one can't wait.

There is no proven connection between second hand smoke and cancer or cardiovascular disease. As for asthma, I can understand the problems there.

Cigarrette smoke makes me sick. When I get home after spending an evening in a bar or club my throat is sore and I feel sick from the smoke. I don't care if there is proven connection with cancer or anything else. But it does stand to reason if smoking causes cancer in smokers then could cause cancer in second hand smokers.

[shropshire 0]

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I can't subscribe to that as a 100% fact. But can say that I have in the distant past.

Now, if I drink anything at all, I DO NOT drive, I can promiss you that.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Remster 30]

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I'd suggest if you are worried about your health, steer clear of the bars.

There is plenty of litterature that supports drinking in moderation is benificial.

Smoking, at any level, is detrimental to your health.

EDIT: dont get me wrong, I'm not putting drinkin up on a pedestal. But its not a black and white danger to your health like smoking is.

Remster

[rehmwa 2]

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There is no proven connection between second hand smoke and cancer or cardiovascular disease.

I don't even think even the most selfish smokers believe that.

I mean, that's why smokers are always smoking in their own homes and right in front of their own kids and infants. Right?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[billvon 2,998]

>There is no proven connection between second hand smoke and cancer
>or cardiovascular disease. As for asthma, I can understand the problems
>there.

My parents both smoked a lot when I was a kid. I have asthma today. By the time my second sister was born one had quit and one had cut back. My sister was fine.

[wmw999 2,452]

I just find it depressing that not seeing people smoking on screen might, in fact, have an effect on young folks' smoking. That's pretty suggestible.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[beowulf 1]

I don't think it is improbable that movies would influence children to smoke.

[billvon 2,998]

> I just find it depressing that not seeing people smoking on screen
>might, in fact, have an effect on young folks' smoking.

Well, if what people saw on screen did NOT affect their behavior, advertising wouldn't work, right?

[Zipp0 1]

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There is no proven connection between second hand smoke and cancer or cardiovascular disease.

I don't even think even the most selfish smokers believe that.

I mean, that's why smokers are always smoking in their own homes and right in front of their own kids and infants. Right?

I'm just using the same argument that the GW deniers use - there is no scientific proof beyond a reasonable doubt linking second hand smoke with cardio/cancer risk. For every study that says there is, there is one that says there isn't.

It's funny that we let people drink all night and drive home, but if those same people light up in the bar they will be kicked out. If we are really concerned with the safety of people, maybe they should mandate a quick alcohol breath test before serving you that third drink at a bar. After all, serving a drunk person is illegal.

Smoking, like skydiving, is a risky behavior. Both can kill you, many people will call you crazy for doing either, and both cause large amounts of smoke to be released into the air.

I do wish I could quit though.

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