Butters 0 #51 June 7, 2007 Quote Hmm dont you guys all think Iraq made the 9/11 attacks... so we had to stop them.. No, we don't all think Iraq made the 9/11 attacks (at least I don't). I think we should have invaded Iraq for the same reasons we should invade Somalia, Sudan, etc... But politics appear to take precedence over ethics and morals (a reason that I am not in the military). "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #52 June 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteDid anyone else read this article on the 2004 election: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen It's VERY difficult (nearly impossible) to read that article and not conclude that the 2004 election was tampered with. Can a few repubs read the whole thing and respond? I'm curious as to how you explain all of that? I'm not going to read all of that article since i consider that rag to be extremely biased politically and therefor any "evidence" they cite to be suspect. HOWEVER, even if we assume for the sake of argument that everything they say and claim is true, and all the election results in Ohio were changed to suit the Dems wishes, that would mean Kerry would have won the electoral vote but not the popular vote...something the Dems have been complaining about since the 2000 election. Would they then do what they wanted the Repubs to do and concede to the winner of the popular vote?? You can't read Rolling Stone? You are joking, right? Is the courage of your convictions so weak that merely reading an article in an "extremely biased politically" magazine would put them in doubt? The article is fully documented and well written. You can check the facts yourself. The facts presented in the article are not in dispute. The events occurred as documented. It is horrifying if you are a true American. The Republicans have been operating in the "Party over Country" mode for a long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #53 June 7, 2007 So I guess we're not going to see anything about: "similarities between present-day US and June 1939 Germany...You know... a direct comparison between actual circumstances in the presentday U.S., to Germany in 1939." Doing so might cause some people to admit their biases are unfounded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #54 June 7, 2007 QuoteIs the courage of your convictions so weak that merely reading an article in an "extremely biased politically" magazine would put them in doubt? That about sums up the view on the RIGHT WING... Place fingers in ears and go NANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANA Since no one is telling all the GOOD things that are going on in Iraq and elsewhere.... hell thats what got the US into this mess.... we would be greeted in the streets as liberators... with flowers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #55 June 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteIs the courage of your convictions so weak that merely reading an article in an "extremely biased politically" magazine would put them in doubt? That about sums up the view on the RIGHT WING... Place fingers in ears and go NANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANA Since no one is telling all the GOOD things that are going on in Iraq and elsewhere.... hell thats what got the US into this mess.... we would be greeted in the streets as liberators... with flowers. Have you ever realized that the way in which you act works against you (and the point your are trying to make)? You should."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #56 June 7, 2007 Personally after years on here with Right Wing pie in the sky chickenhawk nutters....I dont give a fuck... its what they seem to understand the best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #57 June 7, 2007 >The article is fully documented and well written. You can check the facts yourself Suppositions by editorial writers != "fully documented"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #58 June 7, 2007 QuotePersonally after years on here with Right Wing pie in the sky chickenhawk nutters....I dont give a fuck... its what they seem to understand the best. Really? Then you have a lot to learn because it doesn't appear that anyone is understanding you."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #59 June 7, 2007 Its only fully documented on state sponsored approved news outlets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #60 June 7, 2007 QuoteIts only fully documented on state sponsored approved news outlets. Sorta like those 'verified' ANG documents, huh???Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 June 7, 2007 Certified or not the fuckhead did not show up .... if you did that what would have happened to you....ITS CALLED... AWOL...period..but I guess in your world you will defend ANYTHING as long as it suits you politically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #62 June 7, 2007 QuoteCertified or not the fuckhead did not show up .... if you did that what would have happened to you....ITS CALLED... AWOL...period..but I guess in your world you will defend ANYTHING as long as it suits you politically. Been reading your own posts again? You'll grab onto ANYTHING as gospel truth if it makes Republicans look bad. When someone shows that the Democrats do the exact same shit or more, you go into full out attack mode. Where's that critical thinking you keep talking about?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #63 June 7, 2007 Bottom line do you think YOU would have gotten an honorable discharge if YOU did not show up for your flight physicals.... OR if you did not show up for duty for months???? Yes or no. Certain Republicans( or at least that is what they are calling themselves when not being disingenous and calling themselves LIBERTARIANS) do a prefectly good job of showing themselves to be what they really are...BAD... at least to someone who is not apologizing for them for 6 years running. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #64 June 7, 2007 If there was actual PROOF that I was AWOL and not TDY? Sure, I'd expect it... evidently it wasn't enough to convince the ANG. Sucks for the Dems.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #65 June 8, 2007 The ANG did not have the willpower to do what was right against the BUSH Family.. If you had the record he did.. you would have been courts martialed and given at the very least less than honorable. But your daddy aint a congressman...or the CIS Director.. QuoteSucks for the Dems. No its not just for the Dems... it sucks for what once was a country of laws.to .be subverted by...this charletan...... it was once a great country that the world respected which the world no longer does.... and it really sucks for the families of the 3500+ that He and his freinds have put in harms way and paid the ultimate cost for their neo con greed and personal hubris... while they enrich themselves... our young people are dying in a far off land in a war that did not need to be fought.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #66 June 8, 2007 BDS much? You (and several other posters heres) have such a hate-on for Bush that you'll grab ANYTHING that makes him or the Republicans look bad, all the while blindly ignoring the fact that the Democrats are just as bad, or worse.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #67 June 8, 2007 Nice Try there spunky.... Answer this WHO has been in control of the country for the last 6 years.... in ALL the branches of government.. that whole the Dems do it too just dont wash. The rePUBICans did just fine showing themselves to not be what they portrayed to the country...Moral.. fiscally conservative.. small government... Bush is just the top of the cesspool . And your support of him and his cronies show much as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #68 June 8, 2007 And again, you equate showing that the Dems are just as bad with blind support for the Reps. For one that places such ridicule in Bush's "with us or against us" statement, you sure exemplify it. "Mike doesn't think everything about the Republicans suck... he MUST be one!"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #69 June 8, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteCue Monty Python voices - Run away, silly moonbats! Run away! Silly Neo-Con.....more PA's dont help the discussion... Neither does ducking the issue. I'd still like someone to show the similarities between present-day US and June 1939 Germany!!! You know... a direct comparison between actual circumstances in the presentday U.S., to Germany in 1939. Here ya go I'm sure you'll disagree with every link on there, but at least here is a list of comparisons and links to dozens of comparisons, books, articles, and opinions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #70 June 8, 2007 Mike.. its your ACTIONS that we know YEE BY.. any act by THEM... and we get a CDIF and an apology for anything THEY are doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #71 June 8, 2007 QuoteMike.. its your ACTIONS that we know YEE BY.. any act by THEM... and we get a CDIF and an apology for anything THEY are doing. As do you for the Dems the grand majority of the time. I make no excuses for the views I support, and no excuses for showing that the Dems are no better than the Reps OR that their hands are just as dirty. If you wish to view that as "apologies", then so be it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #72 June 8, 2007 Too Bad your team holds itself out to be so moral and so many things it is not.....Something the other team does not do with such zest and vigor as your guys do. But I do enjoy the work of pointing out all that hypocrisy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 June 8, 2007 QuoteToo Bad your team holds itself out to be so moral and so many things it is not.....Something the other team does not do with such zest and vigor as your guys do. But I do enjoy the work of pointing out all that hypocrisy. Too bad you only point out the one side... you could cut my workload some, y'know!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #74 June 8, 2007 Quote TSK TSK TSK... wrong again .. as usual.. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2832485#2832485 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2269465#2269465 Gee got any other "phalacies" there Mike? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 June 8, 2007 Jefferson, I'll give ya...my bad.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
