akarunway 1 #1 June 6, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GcXl1y_mQwI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 June 6, 2007 Here's a completely non-partisan comment directed to those of all political affiliations: Americans; please... stop... electing... retards. Seriously! End of message. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #3 June 6, 2007 Al-Qaeda Torture Manual, captured in Iraq. Photos of victims in the link as well. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #4 June 6, 2007 QuoteAl-Qaeda Torture Manual, captured in Iraq. Photos of victims in the link as well. mh . Why? Why, do you continue to justify American atrocities by pointing out that someone else is worse? Quite frankly, this sliding scale of moral values is repugnant.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 June 6, 2007 Quote Here's a completely non-partisan comment directed to those of all political affiliations: Americans; please... stop... electing... retards. Seriously! End of message. Dam right, Kennedy and Pelosi got to go"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 June 6, 2007 QuoteQuoteAl-Qaeda Torture Manual, captured in Iraq. Photos of victims in the link as well. mh . Why? Why, do you continue to justify American atrocities by pointing out that someone else is worse? Quite frankly, this sliding scale of moral values is repugnant. I'd certainly like to know WHY the MSM isn't giving even close to 1/10th the time to the AQ torture manual as they have to waterboarding and belly slaps. AQ doesn't need to beat us in Iraq... the MSM is doing it for them.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #7 June 6, 2007 >I'd certainly like to know WHY the MSM isn't giving even close to >1/10th the time to the AQ torture manual as they have to waterboarding >and belly slaps. Because everyone expects a bunch of hateful murdering terrorists to torture people. Up until recently, no one expected the US to drop to their level. Reporters report on unusual things, not on things that happen everyday. When's the last time you saw a headline on CNN that said "MILWAUKEE WOMAN DIES OF OLD AGE" ? Why aren't you complaining about that, about how the MSM obviously hates old people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joedirt 0 #8 June 6, 2007 I don't think torture of any kind should be done, I think it's pointless and inhumane. I do know that if I had to be captured by a group of American soldiers or radical Muslim fighters or North Vietnamese or North Koreans or Chinese or Japanese or Germans, I would take my chances with Americans. Based on these groups histories of past treatment of prisoners I would say we have not dropped down to their "level", especially the terrorist groups. Sawing a live mans head off slowly with a blade while saying Allah every 4 seconds seems a different category than "waterboarding", but that's just me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 June 6, 2007 QuoteSawing a live mans head off slowly with a blade while saying Allah every 4 seconds seems a different category than "waterboarding", but that's just me. Oh, absolutely NOT!!! As a matter of fact, the "ole red-belly" is WORSE than that because we're SUPPOSED to be so much better than them!! The problem is that the terrorists, just like any bully, only recognize force. Am I advocating that we start beheading people? Absolutely NOT!! I *am* saying, however, that the constant hullaballoo in the MSM over every single bad thing that happens in Iraq and the the corresponding LACK of coverage about the good things that are happening encourage the terrorists and give them renewed will to fight. Our troops are having to not only fight AQ, but the media as well. This guy gets it... so does this cartoonist.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joedirt 0 #10 June 6, 2007 Of course... it is their strategy. The ironic part is this strategy could work in Afghanistan too, the "good war". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #11 June 6, 2007 Even though that video seems like a cruel parody, I was wondering if there is any training or preparation that could help a person survive such torture with their sanity intact (assuming the victim survives at all). Is there any such thing? Surely it would be a valuable service, with the popularity of torture these days.My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites