Yet another example of the Uk going down the shitter....

[freethefly 6]

Shouldn't the title be "Yet another example of the Uk going down the loo...."?
Just trying to be culturely correct.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[MDMA 0]

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You know who i have a problem with.......not immigrants,but white uneducated[because they couldn't be botherred and because their white trash parents taught them that the world owes them a living]SCOATS.

You know the ones that use immigration as an excuse for the fact that they're unemployable.

As far as i can see most immigrants come here[UK] to try and better themselves. Some,in my area have set up small biusinesses caterring to our desire for 24/7 convienience.

These buisinesses pay taxes,just the same as everybody else who works for a living,betterring the proud to be British economy.

Another fact is,they are willing to fill the less glamorous vacancies that the work shy amongst us wont consider.

So bear that in mind next time you're pissing on the floor in a public convenience whilst choking on a big mac.

phew, for a minute i thought you were insinuating i'm white trash, but seeing as i'm middle class, i can only assume you're not
I don't go to macdonalds, i don't eat the shit that those babboons serve... It's not called MacJob for nothing

I've reconsidered... i'm now all for blacks, chinks, pakis etc coming here, you're right... we need people to do the shit jobs us whites won't do any more. At least those kind of jobs aren't below those sorts

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Ok so you're a middle class racist tosser and a spineless one at that.....your profile says so period.

You're spot on with the 'class' thing tho,modest as i may be

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Amazingly enough, the exact same thing is happening in China. I know of several foreigners who have been in China for years, and do not speak a word of Mandarin. They also tend to dodge local (as well as their original country's) taxes by getting paid on HK accounts.

Are you talking about foreigners who are living in China temporarily or foreigners who moved there intending to become citizens and take root.

I think there is an implicit expectation for immigrants to assimilate to the new country's culture. This expectation is much less for "temporary residents".

For most of the last two centuries this expectation (and accommodation) has been the norm. In doing so, assimilation helps ensure cohesion in society.

In recent years, this expectation has fallen out of favor. Sooner or later (I think) it will lead to civil unrest.

[Frenchy68 0]

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Are you talking about foreigners who are living in China temporarily or foreigners who moved there intending to become citizens and take root.

Both. There are exceptions, of course. However, since China (like Japan) has a blood lineage system to determine citizenship, unless one of your parent is a mainland Chinese citizen, it is almost impossible to obtain citizenship.
But for many reasons, even those who moved to China of their own will years ago tend to spend much more time among foreigners than locals. It is easily understandable, as assimilating the culture (including the language) requires lots of efforts, and even after 20 years trying, some are still struggling...

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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I am somewhat surprised that your post has not been removed for being utterly offensive. I am all for freedom of speech but I wasn't aware that this forum could be used for plain bigotry and bashing racial or other such groups. Since it can, I might as well say that it is right wing idiots like you who are currently making a mockery of the freedoms people in this country have fought and died to protect. If you don't like it get out. No doubt you posted this thread to get such a reaction - may you break your arm whilst patting yourself on the back in celebration of your achievement. Let's hope you don't have the misfortune of being treated by one of the many Indian doctors who saved the NHS from a shortage of doctors some years back.

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I am all for freedom of speech but.....

Obviously you're not for freedom of speech at all.

Not that this has anything to do with what's said in a private forum.

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Racism isn't expressing your right to free speech. Which is why there are specific offences. I'm waiting for the day, when in UK law, the courts prove the internet to be a public place for the purposes of the public order act. Then people like MDMA who post 'anonymously' can be dealt with in a manner they deserve.

If you wouldn't say it on the street, don't say it on the internet. If you did say it on the street in front of me, you would be dealt with accordingly.

[bexren76 0]

Actually I am all for freedom of speech. Although I think MDMA is talking out of his backside (probably on purpose) I would nevertheless defend his right to say what he wishes. However, the use of racist language purely to be offensive and provoke reaction is not the same as being able to have your say about an issue. It is simply an expression of hatred.

If MDMA wishes to put forward arguments against immigration, or even more ludicrously, skin colour / race he is on a par with the BNP and as the UK is a democracy no such party should be banned and I sincerely believe that. That does not mean you get to walk around the streets shouting "Paki" or "Nigger" at people. It's common sense and common courtesy. Clear enough for you?

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070606/tuk-lifestyle-britain-name-mohammed-a7ad41d.html

R.I.P Great Britain you used to be a great country, but due to slack bastard immigration laws letting every benefit scrounger in, it's all over for you

Suprise Suprise... there are plenty of Muslims born here whos families go back several british generations. Also plenty of UK converts. Though I agree on the imigration issue, I'd like to see it more like Australia's.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[dorbie 0]

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Actually I am all for freedom of speech.

You don't even know what free speech is.

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However, the use of racist language purely to be offensive and provoke reaction is not the same as being able to have your say about an issue. It is simply an expression of hatred.

Hell we have PLENTY of people in this country who hate all of the politically correct speech ...that does not allow them to use the old derogatory terms they have for many ethnic minorities.
Every time I hear that arguement... I see a racist in sheeps clothing.

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However, the use of racist language purely to be offensive and provoke reaction is not the same as being able to have your say about an issue. It is simply an expression of hatred.

Hell we have PLENTY of people in this country who hate all of the politically correct speech ...that does not allow them to use the old derogatory terms they have for many ethnic minorities.
Every time I hear that arguement... I see a racist in sheeps clothing.

And some people's bigotry shows up through their use of intentionally offensive stereotypes besides racial ones.

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Racism isn't expressing your right to free speech. Which is why there are specific offences. I'm waiting for the day, when in UK law, the courts prove the internet to be a public place for the purposes of the public order act. Then people like MDMA who post 'anonymously' can be dealt with in a manner they deserve.

If you wouldn't say it on the street, don't say it on the internet. If you did say it on the street in front of me, you would be dealt with accordingly.

And you & your masters in black robes & wigs get to decide selectively what is racist and what is not? Then apply those laws through a politically correct prism. You just can't wait to take your truncheon to the internet. You might want to look up the etymology of fascist some day. Just what disorder did MDMA cause? I suppose there are some things about the political situation in the UK that we just cannot comment on if it does not meet your approval? No thanks mate, the country you'd form under your jackboot WOULD be a shit hole.

The trouble with folks like you is you've spent so long pushing other people around under the auspices of the law that the concept that you might be on the receiving end is absolutely alien to you. You might wake up one day and not like the bed you're lying in.

Thankfully you don't get to write the laws, and are merely a public servant, try to remember that.

[Amazon 7]

IT IS WHA IT IS.....


But I guess avoiding bigots...IS bigoted in your eyes

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But I guess avoiding bigots...IS bigoted in your eyes

LMAO

What have I said/posted that gave you that idea?

[Amazon 7]

Why am I not suprised you would laugh...

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My point being, if he said what was written in that post on the street he'd probably be arrested. Therefore your cry for freedom of speech doesn't apply as although people have 'freedom of expression' that does not override any other legislation, namely the Public Order Act.

His comments are not about freedom of expression, its about being spineless and hiding behind anonimity to make insulting remarks.

I'm not going to waste any more time discussing it as MDMA is only a troll and is getting what they want from stirring the hornets nest and running away.

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Why am I not suprised you would laugh...

What you claimed was laughably absurd.

I notice you didn't address my question.

I'm not surprised.

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My point being, if he said what was written in that post on the street he'd probably be arrested. Therefore your cry for freedom of speech doesn't apply as although people have 'freedom of expression' that does not override any other legislation, namely the Public Order Act.

I doubt his statements, if made publicly, would get him arrested in the US. I think we have different criteria regarding free speech than in you have in England.

[Amazon 7]

I avoid bigots... what part of that is laughable....but I guess you feel that in avoiding them.. you see that as bigoted....

Oh yeah I forgot.... your world requires me to address you....

why bother...I will go back to ignoring yours

[VincentVL. 0]

I think I'll name my kid He-Man or Sheila.

Wait no...they'll turn into homosexuals for sure.

[Scoop 0]

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I doubt his statements, if made publicly, would get him arrested in the US. I think we have different criteria regarding free speech than in you have in England.

Yep, you're probably right. Culture clash

[Amazon 7]

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I think I'll name my kid He-Man or Sheila.

Wait no...they'll turn into homosexuals for sure.

No one just TURNS into a homosexual...but you can screw up a childs life by how you raise them.

Teaching them by actions and things said in the home to be a racist...is what.. raising them in a loving home????

[VincentVL. 0]

In my language, if you give your kid a name which ends in Y, there's a decent chance it will grow up to be either a homo or an anti-social douche. It's been researched and everything. (Not applicable to every person guys...don't get upset.)

But what you're saying is you can raise/screw up your kid to be a homosexual? That's kinda bigoted isn't it?