BillyVance 34 #51 June 12, 2007 Quote Quote Man, if a black guy can win an F1 race what's next, An American? I just have a weird feeling... it wouldn't bother me if it did happen, but I got a feeling it would be a dark dark day in the south if a black won a Nascar race... Got a question... a good one actually... Who would get more beer cans thrown at their car at Talladega for winning? Jeff Gordon or a black driver"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #52 June 12, 2007 Quote I just have a weird feeling... it wouldn't bother me if it did happen, but I got a feeling it would be a dark dark day in the south if a black won a Nascar race... Really? You used the pun? Nice. Anyway, "a black" has already won a NASCAR race. Of course, this was many years ago and nobody remembers it. Wendell Scottquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #53 June 12, 2007 Quote Anyway, "a black" has already won a NASCAR race. Of course, this was many years ago and nobody remembers it. Wendell Scott And as the car pulled into the winners circle and the driver stepped out, I'm picturing the scene in "Blazing Saddles" when Cleavon Little rode into Rock Ridge where they had a big celebration ready to welcome their new sheriff."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #54 June 12, 2007 Sadly, it was even more racistly tragic than that. Read the link I posted.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDMA 0 #55 June 12, 2007 QuoteMan, if a black guy can win an F1 race what's next, An American? only if you make the course an oval, it's a fact yanks can't drive round corners Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #56 June 12, 2007 Quote Sadly, it was even more racistly tragic than that. Read the link I posted. Ugh! I see what you mean."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #57 June 12, 2007 We are all Africans if you did not know [url]http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7442.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDMA 0 #58 June 12, 2007 Quote Quote I just have a weird feeling... it wouldn't bother me if it did happen, but I got a feeling it would be a dark dark day in the south if a black won a Nascar race... Really? You used the pun? Nice. Anyway, "a black" has already won a NASCAR race. Of course, this was many years ago and nobody remembers it. Wendell Scott me and my brother Cleetus need a word with him.... http://www.farmworkers.org/bracero5/kkk.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #59 June 12, 2007 Thanks Quade. Good stuff. QuoteFranklin said that it seemed two drivers, Neil Castles and Jack Smith, really had it in for his father. Once in Savannah in 1962, Wendell had just set a track record in the time trial when Smith approached and told Scott that his five cars would run through Scott’s Chevrolet when the flag dropped. It turned out though that none of Smith’s cars could keep up with Scott’s car as he finished second in the race to Ned Jarrett. After the race Scott received an apology, but not from Smith. Franklin remembers, "Joe Weatherly came to our pit after the race and he said, "Wendell, I just came to apologize for the rest of those stupid sons of bitches." After a few run-ins with Smith, Scott decided that he’d had enough. Smith had wrecked Scott at Winston-Salem. On the pace lap Smith pulled alongside Scott and started pointing at him. Scott whipped out a gun and pointed it at Smith. The Scott’s never had trouble with Jack Smith again. Despite some driver’s racism toward Scott, not all drivers felt the same way. Richard Petty, Joe Weatherly, and Fireball Roberts were among the stars that helped Scott out. One time in Jacksonville, Tiny Lund came over and gave Scott four tires to qualify on. Most stock car drivers respected Scoot because he was a lot like them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #60 June 12, 2007 Quote Maybe if a black man becomes the president of the united states the national anthem maight get a new beat to it. And they can fill all of those back orders for forty acres and a mule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDMA 0 #61 June 12, 2007 On pure driving ability, Anothony davidson is the best British driver out there, he just can't secure a seat (read that as bring in the required sponsorship) in the top 2 teams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #62 June 12, 2007 QuoteFormula 1 racing is, in my book, the second toughest series of racing (after Rally Car Racing). Assuming that the car itself can withstand the race to begin with, it is all about the driver. Oh please. MotoGP takes this prize hands down. Don't leave out the 2-wheel racing. I agree, a lot of these sports need some diversity...and it surprises me that the teams and race organizations don't push harder for it...i mean, look at the press and interest Danica Patrick has generated for IndyCar, an admittedly struggling race series. From a pure marketing perspective, a little "controversy" (if diversity could be called that) is ratings gold.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDMA 0 #63 June 12, 2007 Quote Quote Formula 1 racing is, in my book, the second toughest series of racing (after Rally Car Racing). Assuming that the car itself can withstand the race to begin with, it is all about the driver. Oh please. MotoGP takes this prize hands down. Don't leave out the 2-wheel racing. I agree, a lot of these sports need some diversity...and it surprises me that the teams and race organizations don't push harder for it...i mean, look at the press and interest Danica Patrick has generated for IndyCar, an admittedly struggling race series. From a pure marketing perspective, a little "controversy" (if diversity could be called that) is ratings gold. i know it might be a bit far for you, but you would be in seventh heaven if you're a biker..... http://www.iomtt.com/News.aspx I've been several times, it's the dogs bollocks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #64 June 12, 2007 QuoteOn pure driving ability, Anothony davidson is the best British driver out there, he just can't secure a seat (read that as bring in the required sponsorship) in the top 2 teams Ant Davidson is (IMO) a very underrated driver, but there is no way that you can state that he is better than Hamilton on the available evidence. Hamilton is currently outperforming the world champion in equal machinery, Davidson is being beaten by Takuma Sato.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDMA 0 #65 June 12, 2007 did you know, Ant Davidson's brother was in the first Big Brother house? they called him Randy Andy i know this because Anthony and Andy's youngest brother, Ian, is a good mate, LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #66 June 12, 2007 oh god...isle of man. scary but intriguing at the same time. too far. I'm happy with spending 4 days of my summer slumming around the Laguna Seca pits during the MotoGP weekend there ;)Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDMA 0 #67 June 12, 2007 Quote oh god...isle of man. scary but intriguing at the same time. too far. I'm happy with spending 4 days of my summer slumming around the Laguna Seca pits during the MotoGP weekend there ;) I've seen Laguna Seca on Tv many times, i'd love to go through the cork screw on a bike or in a car I'm going to this in just over a week... http://www.goodwood.co.uk/fos/intro.htm I'm already foaming at the y-fronts in anticipation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #68 June 12, 2007 QuoteI don't watch F1 that often, but a British guy named Lewis Hamilton won the Montreal GP Sunday. He's a black guy. Way cool! Lewis Hamilton in F1? That's not news. When Jamal Jackson wins at Taladega is when I really want to see a reaction."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflysteve 0 #69 June 12, 2007 And it got moved.???????????? Wasss upppp. Swooping, huh? I love that stuff ... all the flashing lights and wailing sirens ... it's very exciting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #70 June 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteeven the best driver in the world wouldn't win a race unless he was in one of the top 2 teams on the grid How do you explain Shummi winning on a Benetton? 13 years ago, when Benetton was one of the top teams on the grid? The world of F1 has changed a little since them days. And Benetton in its current incarnation as Renault also won the last two world championships. When he was winning his 1st races with benetton, the team certainly was not one of the top team in 92 and 93.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #71 June 12, 2007 QuoteI don't watch F1 that often, but a British guy named Lewis Hamilton won the Montreal GP Sunday. He's a black guy. Way cool! Funny thing is I didn't even consider his colour, just that he is a kick arse driver and young to have achived what he has. On reflection I suppose its good to have a positive role model for young black males but it just good that he is a good role model for British kids full stop.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #72 June 12, 2007 Quote Quote i dont think its that cool, or another way to put it......why does it matter that a black guy won, same thing as if any person won. I think its good. Good for racing. Good for Black people. Good for sponsors. Good for humanity. Wow, bet you'll need some kleenex if Obama becomes presidentWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #73 June 12, 2007 Quote When he was winning his 1st races with benetton, the team certainly was not one of the top team in 92 and 93. Well, for one of the two I think the pouring rain at Spa definitely counts as exceptional circumstances. Rain is a great leveller of machinery.And still, that was 15 years ago. You can't use it as an example to prove anything about modern F1.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #74 June 12, 2007 Quote You can't use it as an example to prove anything about modern F1. Hey.. You're the one who used superlatives. I agree that 75% or the race is won by the car, expecially nowadays. But there are still the exceptions. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #75 June 12, 2007 And by the way, to the OP, the amazing thing about Hamilton's achievement is not that he's black, but that it is only the 6th race of his rookie season, he has been on the podium for all of the other 5 (4 seconds and a third), and he is leading the championship by 8 points over his double world champion teammate. Simply stunning Yes, that is pretty impressive. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
