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A Pew report from 2004 showed the following distribution of stories about Iraq (*cable networks*):

Station Positive Negative Neutral

Fox 20% 30% 50%

CNN 10% 60% 30%

MSNBC 12% 48% 40%

Seems like Fox is a bit more balanced on the issue than the other cable outlets...

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I also will admit that Fox News is biased, but a lot closer to fair and balanced than NPR

That right there is some funny funny shit man... ever thought of doing standup???

The only people who Might be able to call Fox News as fair and balanced and middle of the road are those who think John Birch might have been a commie stooge.

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A Pew report from 2004 showed the following distribution of stories about Iraq (*cable networks*):

Station Positive Negative Neutral

Fox 20% 30% 50%

CNN 10% 60% 30%

MSNBC 12% 48% 40%

Seems like Fox is a bit more balanced on the issue than the other cable outlets...

Maybe it just shows that Fox is more of a Polyanna than the others. Could be that conditions in Iraq ARE negative. "Just another six months".

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I also will admit that Fox News is biased, but a lot closer to fair and balanced than NPR

That right there is some funny funny shit man... ever thought of doing standup???



The only people who Might be able to call Fox News as fair and balanced and middle of the road are those who think John Birch might have been a commie stooge.

Liberals will think there is no left bias because the liberal position on issues is correct. [Laugh]

I didn't provide proof of my claim, just an anecdote that I think is obviously applicable. You provided nothing but a vague insult to support your assertion. I contend that studies attempting to demonstrate the level and direction of bias in the media largely support my claim, but such studies will always have flaws. So, we are left to trade instances of bias against each other.

The Palestinian Authority has explicitly admitted that the news media are on their side, helping them. Of course they don't mean every media source, but I don't think they are referring to just a small number of minor players.

How is it that Juan Williams and Mara Liasson, two substantial names within NPR, are able to stand being a part of the panel discussion on Brit Hume's Special Report nearly every day? Juan Williams has been on Bill O'Reilly's show many times. If Fox News is so bad, how can they hold their lunch when they repeatedly appear on the network?

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I also will admit that Fox News is biased, but a lot closer to fair and balanced than NPR

That right there is some funny funny shit man... ever thought of doing standup???



The only people who Might be able to call Fox News as fair and balanced and middle of the road are those who think John Birch might have been a commie stooge.

Liberals will think there is no left bias because the liberal position on issues is correct. [Laugh]

I didn't provide proof of my claim, just an anecdote that I think is obviously applicable. You provided nothing but a vague insult to support your assertion. I contend that studies attempting to demonstrate the level and direction of bias in the media largely support my claim, but such studies will always have flaws. So, we are left to trade instances of bias against each other.

The Palestinian Authority has explicitly admitted that the news media are on their side, helping them. Of course they don't mean every media source, but I don't think they are referring to just a small number of minor players.

How is it that Juan Williams and Mara Liasson, two substantial names within NPR, are able to stand being a part of the panel discussion on Brit Hume's Special Report nearly every day? Juan Williams has been on Bill O'Reilly's show many times. If Fox News is so bad, how can they hold their lunch when they repeatedly appear on the network?

When someone is SSSSOOOOOOOO far left, middle of the road looks like a right wing radical

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The only people who Might be able to call Fox News as fair and balanced and middle of the road are those who think John Birch might have been a commie stooge.

Or people who have taken the time to actually measure media bias in an objective manner.
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/MediaBias.pdf

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A Pew report from 2004 showed the following distribution of stories about Iraq (*cable networks*):

Station Positive Negative Neutral

Fox 20% 30% 50%

CNN 10% 60% 30%

MSNBC 12% 48% 40%

Seems like Fox is a bit more balanced on the issue than the other cable outlets...

Maybe it just shows that Fox is more of a Polyanna than the others. Could be that conditions in Iraq ARE negative. "Just another six months".

Or maybe it shows that things in Iraq are better than the rest of the MSM spin them.... nah, COULDN'T be that, now could it?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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>Or maybe it shows that things in Iraq are better than the rest of the MSM spin them....

Right. When will people start to realize all those corpses are fake, and all those bridges, mosques and markets were scheduled for demolition anyway?

No one is buying the "Iraq is going great, the media is just lying about it" spin any more. Although I must say they did for some time, which is a tribute to the GOP spin machine. McCain's "safe stroll through a Baghdad market" for example was a masterful piece of deception. Heck, it was just "like a normal outdoor market in Indiana!" But like the man once said, you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

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>Or maybe it shows that things in Iraq are better than the rest of the MSM spin them....

Right. When will people start to realize all those corpses are fake, and all those bridges, mosques and markets were scheduled for demolition anyway?

No one is buying the "Iraq is going great, the media is just lying about it" spin any more. Although I must say they did for some time, which is a tribute to the GOP spin machine. McCain's "safe stroll through a Baghdad market" for example was a masterful piece of deception. Heck, it was just "like a normal outdoor market in Indiana!" But like the man once said, you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

NO, but I am seeing some on this thread who but into the lefty spin. Me, I will take my info from those there and returning. And not just a selected few of them

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>Or maybe it shows that things in Iraq are better than the rest of the MSM spin them....

Right. When will people start to realize all those corpses are fake, and all those bridges, mosques and markets were scheduled for demolition anyway?

No one is buying the "Iraq is going great, the media is just lying about it" spin any more. Although I must say they did for some time, which is a tribute to the GOP spin machine. McCain's "safe stroll through a Baghdad market" for example was a masterful piece of deception. Heck, it was just "like a normal outdoor market in Indiana!" But like the man once said, you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Nice hyperbole - where did I say that it was all cuddly puppies and flowers?

Oh, that's right - *I DIDN'T*.

And your hyperbole still doesn't change the FACT that the MSM as a whole is NOT reporting evenly on Iraq....as the Pew study I listed in the other post shows.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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>Me, I will take my info from those there and returning.

Unfortunately there are a few thousand that you can't ask. What do you think they would tell you? How about the 70,000 or so dead civilians? Think they would tell you the war is going great (if they could?)

A lot of people have a desperate need to believe the war was a good idea, because they supported it - and they are incapable of admitting they were wrong. If the war's not so bad, why, THEY weren't so dumb to support it! Carefully planned GOP publicity events are designed to enable these people's beliefs, because the only way the GOP can save itself now is to make people think we are winning. Believe that if if makes you feel good.

That's not to say that nothing good is happening in Iraq, because it most certainly is - we're trying, and we are making progress in some places. But things are not going well. They're not getting better. It's not coming to a great conclusion, and the violence is not dying down. The sooner we can admit that to ourselves the sooner we can fix the problems and get the most good we can out of a situation that is rapidly deteriorating.

Here are a few comments from someone that I am glad IS able to comment on what's going on over there. Ignore them if you like, but I think they tell a pretty straightforward story.

"I'm halfway through my third trip over here and I have yet to run into a soldier this trip who still supports "the cause". My last two trips even when it was apparent that our reasons for being here were bullshit the majority of us here still believed that the soldiers on the ground were contributing to something good. The administration made a mess and we were here fighting to clean it up and help people. Now, not so much, when every IED you get hit by is within 500 meters of an Iraqi army checkpoint and almost all the people you kill are the ones that were working with you just a few hours before they went home and switched uniforms its time to leave."