Butters 0 #1 June 15, 2007 George H. W. Bush 1/20/1989 - 1/20/1993 Bill Clinton 1/2/1993 - 1/20/2001 George W. Bush 1/20/2001 - 1/20/2009 Hillary Clinton 1/20/2009 - XXX Do you believe it is good, bad, or indifferent for the President of the United States of America to be held by family members? (This applies for George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush and may apply for Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #2 June 15, 2007 Keeping it in the click simply promotes corruption. Not that the US gives a shit about corruption otherwise that 'idiot son of an asshole' would be behind bars by now. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 June 15, 2007 Quote Keeping it in the click simply promotes corruption. Not that the US gives a shit about corruption otherwise that 'idiot son of an asshole' would be behind bars by now. They tried that, but he wiggled out of the impeachment on the "definition of 'is'" technicality... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #4 June 15, 2007 The purpose of this thread is not to discuss whether a particular president was good or bad but whether it is good, bad, or indifferent to have presidents from the same family. Please keep on topic."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #5 June 15, 2007 I vote "bad" because it just shows you how wrong the notion that "anyone can grow up to be President" is. You have to be an insider to get in the game and the dollars decide who gets to play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 June 15, 2007 The Kennedy's must be jealous. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #7 June 15, 2007 Quote The purpose of this thread is not to discuss whether a particular president was good or bad but whether it is good, bad, or indifferent to have presidents from the same family. Please keep on topic. "Keeping it in the click/FAMILY simply promotes corruption.""When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #8 June 15, 2007 I'm indiffrent. I don't care where you came from as long as you are a good president. On another note, don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. If you don't vote, you can't bitch "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #9 June 15, 2007 Quote Keeping it in the click simply promotes corruption. Not that the US gives a shit about corruption otherwise that 'idiot son of an asshole' would be behind bars by now. Why do you think George H. W. Bush is an asshole? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #10 June 15, 2007 The purpose of this thread is not to discuss whether a particular president was good or bad but whether it is good, bad, or indifferent to have presidents from the same family. Please keep on topic."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #11 June 15, 2007 QuoteWhy do you think George H. W. Bush is an asshole? He invaded Iraq for the same greedy reason that his son did. He and his idiot son have systematically made this planet a much less enjoyable/safe place to be. war mongering fucks like that need a taste of their own medicine (and that medicine is pain and suffering). anyway not to deviate from the subject that is always inevitably deviated from. It is not a good idea to keep the head position in a country in a family. We already worked out that the feudal system doesn't work very well."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #12 June 15, 2007 The purpose of this thread is not to discuss whether a particular president was good or bad but whether it is good, bad, or indifferent to have presidents from the same family. Please keep on topic."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #13 June 15, 2007 We are talking about the negative effect of a previous "Family Affair" How are we not on topic."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #14 June 15, 2007 The purpose of this thread is not to discuss whether a particular president was good or bad but whether it is good, bad, or indifferent to have presidents from the same family. Please keep on topic."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #15 June 15, 2007 Quote I'm indiffrent. I don't care where you came from as long as you are a good president. On another note, don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. If you don't vote, you can't bitch Jeesh. You actually think your vote mattered? We need a blind sheep icon Sangrio.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #16 June 15, 2007 That roll your eyes to the back of your head smiley would come in handy right now. It is not a good idea to employ family members of ex presidents to the head of state because it promotes corruption. Should I give an example "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #17 June 15, 2007 On Topic: (whether it is good, bad, or indifferent to have presidents from the same family) QuoteKeeping it in the click simply promotes corruption. Off Topic: (discuss whether a particular president was good or bad) QuoteNot that the US gives a shit about corruption otherwise that 'idiot son of an asshole' would be behind bars by now."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #18 June 15, 2007 thats a pretty scratched record bro. What do you think, are you trying to say you don't think Hillary should be president and 'beating around the bush' about it? that pun wasn't intended but not too bad eh "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #19 June 15, 2007 I just want to know if people believe it is good, bad, or indifferent for the president to be from the same family as a previous president regardless if the previous or new president is good or bad. I used the Bushs because it shows that it has happened and the Clintons because it shows that it could happen again, I'm sorry if this caused some confusion."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 June 15, 2007 Would you decline to vote for a great candidate, just because he was the son of a former president? Would you vote for a lousy candidate, just because he was the son of a great former president? It doesn't matter what their name or their family lineage is. What counts is their ideas, and whether they'll be good for the country. That's how to decide whether to vote for them or not. Addendum: And I see that this thread has already gone to crap with petty partisan bickering, instead of intelligent discussion, so I'll be exiting now, and won't be back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #21 June 15, 2007 > Would you decline to vote for a great candidate, just because he was the son of a former president? If there were two great candidates who were pretty much equal in every other way, I'd go with the one who was NOT son of a president. To put it in your terms - if there were two equally great candidates, and one was a former governor (unrelated to anyone else) and the other was a Kennedy or a Clinton, which one would you vote for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 June 15, 2007 Quote> Would you decline to vote for a great candidate, just because he was the son of a former president? If there were two great candidates who were pretty much equal in every other way, I'd go with the one who was NOT son of a president. To put it in your terms - if there were two equally great candidates, and one was a former governor (unrelated to anyone else) and the other was a Kennedy or a Clinton, which one would you vote for? The candidate who's views on the issues most closely matched mine...why ELSE would you vote for someone? Voting (or not voting) for someone JUST BECAUSE they're the relative of another politician is idiotic.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #23 June 15, 2007 Quote Would you decline to vote for a great candidate, just because he was the son of a former president? Yes if the former president proved to be a liability to the country while lining his own pockets and boosting the family business at the expense of the country and the world for that matter. QuoteWould you vote for a lousy candidate, just because he was the son of a great former president? Hell No QuoteIt doesn't matter what their name or their family lineage is. If the former president proved to be a liability to the country while lining his own pockets and boosting his family business at the expense of the country and the world for that matter then the sibling stands to gain by continuing the mayhem. Therefore it matters a great deal. QuoteWhat counts is their ideas, and whether they'll be good for the country. That's how to decide whether to vote for them or not. You are bang on there bro. And if we are 'in fact' talking about whether Hillary Clinton should be voted for or not? then the fact that she let her husband off the hook for having his cock sucked in the oval office and publicly shaming their family. She is hardly and advocate for good morals is she."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #24 June 15, 2007 >Voting (or not voting) for someone JUST BECAUSE they're the >relative of another politician is idiotic. Voting for someone JUST BECAUSE they are one party is idiotic. Voting for someone JUST BECAUSE they are for or against campaign reform is idiotic. Voting for someone JUST BECAUSE of where they went to school is idiotic. Voting for someone JUST BECAUSE of their war record is idiotic. But refusing to take any of those into account is, IMO, also idiotic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 June 15, 2007 Agreed with party / school, disagree on the others, assuming that those issues are important ones to the voter. Taking into account where the candidate went to school? I'm haiving a bit of a problem connecting that to political issues.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites