NCclimber 0 #51 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote If I was you (and thank fuck I'm not) I'd put a little more effort into getting the point and a little less in missing it. You have no point. Either that or you just missed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #52 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Quote If I was you (and thank fuck I'm not) I'd put a little more effort into getting the point and a little less in missing it. You have no point. Either that or you just missed it. Then explain it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #53 June 25, 2007 The OP stated 25% of Americans think Atheists are immoral. I posted: "Twenty five percent of the population has an IQ below 90". Now... let's see if you can take it the next step. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #54 June 25, 2007 QuoteThe OP stated 25% of Americans think Atheists are immoral. I posted: "Twenty five percent of the population has an IQ below 90". Now... let's see if you can take it the next step. Thats awesomely awesome logic right there!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #55 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe OP stated 25% of Americans think Atheists are immoral. I posted: "Twenty five percent of the population has an IQ below 90". Now... let's see if you can take it the next step. Thats awesomely awesome logic right there! Are your posts today going to consist of anything more than petty sniping? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #56 June 25, 2007 Not really. It's what I do best... And some make it way too easy to pass up!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #57 June 25, 2007 Quote Not really. It's what I do best... And some make it way too easy to pass up! Especially when you're playing the poster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #58 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteI wonder if they ever realize that most (religious or not) people don't care what others think or spend any time worrying about it. Just the whiney paranoid types. Can we apply this standard to all issues? Racism? Constitutional rights? Efforts to infuse Christianity into our government? "we"? do as you will. In this particular subject, I think the fact that someone is or is not religious is really a moot point and a false fear. Thus a waste of energy. Your list? Each person has to decide if they think those topics are worth discussing or not. IMO Racism? I think it's bad and happens in all directions in all areas. Good to discuss, but it's overplayed today and those that 'say' they are championing it are likely causing more harm to their stated goals than good. I think we'll grow out of it, but it'll take a few generations and there is no 'magic' fix that can be legislated. Even then, subjective skin color bias will just transform into people just playing favorites for less tranparent reasons. But maybe it'll be on a personal and individual level rather than an impersonal level. So - worth talking about as long as people don't get all emotional about it. Then better to step away. Constitutional rights? I think they are neat. We should keep them. Efforts to infuse Christianity into our government? Not a good thing. I suspect nearly 99% of the claims are nonsense paranoia from people with chips on their shoulders for some reason or those trying to push the pendulum the other way but unreasonably. But we should watch out for the 1% anyway just like other issues. I think it's a non-issue and don't talk to it much other than for entertainment value. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #59 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteFor as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law to themselves: Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 2:12-16 According to your Bible, your God is responsible for countless immoral acts. That is another argument. My point in posting what I did was that religion is not always necessary for morality. An atheist can be just as "moral" as a Christian (or any other religious preference for that matter). Generally speaking, people know right from wrong (moral from immoral). Whether they act in the moral way or not is something else altogether. However, their God given conscience bears witness to what is right and wrong. God's moral law (10 Commandments) defines it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #60 June 25, 2007 Quote Nearly half the population has below average intelligence. Twenty five percent of the population has an IQ below 90. In other words - Nawt too brite. so it''d be OK if those 25% were, for example, racist - just something you roll with? They were a few decades ago but many people wouldn't take it, and perceptions have changed a fair amount. Those changes didn't really require people to have a high IQ - just to listen up and get over their fears and hatred, as well as some courage and responsibility from those in society's leadership roles. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #61 June 25, 2007 QuoteMy point in posting what I did was that religion is not always necessary for morality. An atheist can be just as "moral" as a Christian (or any other religious preference for that matter). Generally speaking, people know right from wrong (moral from immoral). Whether they act in the moral way or not is something else altogether. However, their God given conscience bears witness to what is right and wrong. God's moral law (10 Commandments) defines it. You believe that all people know right and wrong (regardless of religion) and your religion provides consequences for those that do wrong. Is this correct?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #62 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteMy point in posting what I did was that religion is not always necessary for morality. An atheist can be just as "moral" as a Christian (or any other religious preference for that matter). Generally speaking, people know right from wrong (moral from immoral). Whether they act in the moral way or not is something else altogether. However, their God given conscience bears witness to what is right and wrong. God's moral law (10 Commandments) defines it. You believe that all people know right and wrong (regardless of religion) and your religion provides consequences for those that do wrong. Is this correct? Yes. Most do. Added: I should clarify that there are, of course, exceptions (e.g. mental illness, retardation, etc.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BounceEasy 0 #63 June 25, 2007 lol Half the population is below average? Well..that's an unusual average.. If you walk, just walk. If you sit, just sit. But whatever you do, don't wobble. - Master Ummon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #64 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuote Nearly half the population has below average intelligence. Twenty five percent of the population has an IQ below 90. In other words - Nawt too brite. so it''d be OK if those 25% were, for example, racist - just something you roll with? Not at all. We, as a society, should strive to educate/enlighten our fellow man. My intent was just to point out that a significant portion of our population is below average (by 10 IQ points). With that in mind, we shouldn't be too shocked by these kinds of poll results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #65 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Lower tier non-intellectuals exist across the board. You can also use that sort of phrase to shrug off racism and other ugly prejudice preceptions that someone must be a lower life form simply because of who/what they are. It hardly makes it an accepable situation. Nearly half the population has below average intelligence. Twenty five percent of the population has an IQ below 90. In other words - Nawt too brite.It is what it is. Really? What specifically are you questioning? I wouldn't want you to come back, five pages down the line, accusing me of missing something that was obvious to everyone else. To which population do you refer? What does "nearly half" mean?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #67 June 25, 2007 Quote Yawn Apparently I know something that you don't.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #68 June 25, 2007 Quotedo you refer? What does "nearly half" mean? That one is always fun, when someone says "nearly" half is below average. I guess not all distributions are symmetrical.......(or can be transformed to symmetrical) . ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #69 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Yawn Apparently I know something that you don't. And I'm sure I know many things you don't. I'll be sure to give myself a pat on the back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #70 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Yawn Apparently I know something that you don't. And I'm sure I know many things you don't. WHAT did you mean by "nearly half"? And what population? Which average? Without knowing this, your claim is totally meaningless. 42 is nearly more than 43. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #71 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Yawn Apparently I know something that you don't. And I'm sure I know many things you don't. WHAT did you mean by "nearly half"? And what population? Which average? Without knowing this, your claim is totally meaningless. 42 is nearly more than 43. You seem intent on pushing this matter. What is it you want to know? The intended point of that post was to address the portion of the population with an IQ below 90. It's not that big of a deal, anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #72 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteOn this forum I seen very few attacks on Atheists. On the flip side, there seems to be regular attacks on Christians. We see what we want to see. Yeah, it's a bit ironic that NCclimber can't see the title of the thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #73 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteOn this forum I seen very few attacks on Atheists. On the flip side, there seems to be regular attacks on Christians. We see what we want to see. Yeah, it's a bit ironic that NCclimber can't see the title of the thread. I'm continually impressed with what you seem to think you know about what I mean or see. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #74 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Quote On this forum I seen very few attacks on Atheists. On the flip side, there seems to be regular attacks on Christians. We see what we want to see. Yeah, it's a bit ironic that NCclimber can't see the title of the thread. I think each and everyone one of us here is an opinionated hypocrite (you, me, NCClimber and everyone else). All that we can seem to agree on is that we agree to disagree with each other. Oh well .. we're human ... we are not all that. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #75 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote Yeah, it's a bit ironic that NCclimber can't see the title of the thread. I think each and everyone one of us here is an opinionated hypocrite (you, me, NCClimber and everyone else). All that we can seem to agree on is that we agree to disagree with each other. I believe I'm consistent and avoid the hypocrisy, but by all means, point out where I stray. That's one of the primary games of this forum. But there's no doubt that it's funny hearing NC say there's few attacks on atheists in a thread titled they're immoral. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
