1969912 0 #1 June 24, 2007 Priest arrested with Jesse Jackson Promised to "Snuff Out" Gun Shop Owner and Legislators who Oppose him. MSM seems to have missed this one. A simple oversite, most likely. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200705/NAT20070529a.html 'Snuff' the Gun Shop Owner, Priest Says By Susan Jones CNSNews.com Senior Editor May 29, 2007 (CNSNews.com) - An Illinois gun-rights group says it plans to complain to the Catholic Church after a Chicago priest at the weekend appeared to call for the murder of a suburban gun shop owner. During a Rainbow/PUSH Coalition protest at Chuck's Gun Shop & Range on Saturday, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina's Church, threatened to "snuff" shop owner John Riggio. The Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA) has posted online what is says is a recording of Pfleger's remarks. *****RIGHT HERE***** PflegerIn the audio clip, the priest is heard being introduced to the crowd by the Rev. Jesse Jackson. Immediately therafter, Pfleger launches into a tirade. "I want the NRA [National Rifle Association] to understand - you have a lot of money, but money can't buy moral authority and it can't buy justice or freedom, and we will fight you, NRA," he says. "We will fight you on every angle [sic], no matter how much money you've got, we will embarrass you, and we will embarrass every legislator that takes money from you. We will call them out by name, by district. We will expose you, legislators." Pfleger then turns his attention to Riggio. "He's the owner of Chuck's. John Riggio. R-i-g-g-i-o. We're going to find you and snuff you out … you know you're going to hide like a rat. You're going to hide but like a rat we're going to catch you and pull you out. We are not going to allow you to continue to hide when we're here …" "We're going to keep coming back, and like Reverend Jackson says, it takes civil disobedience, if it takes whatever it takes … we're going to snuff out John Riggio, we're going to snuff out legislators that are voting … and we are coming for you because we are not going to sit idly. Keep on fighting, people. Keep on fighting, keep on fighting." St. Sabina describes itself as a "Bible-teaching" African-American Catholic Church. The day before the anti-gun protest, the church hosted former Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who was making a rare public appearance. Pfleger was quoted as describing the controversial Muslim activist as "a gift from God to a sick, sick world." ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson called it "shocking" to hear a priest advocate the murder of a gun shop owner "who has never committed a crime in his life." "Pfleger's comments were disgusting and dangerous," Pearson said. "And, I seem to remember that the Fifth Commandment frowns on murdering one's neighbor," he added. "This week, I'll be penning a letter to the Archbishop, expressing my concerns over Rev. Pfleger's comments," continued Pearson. "I would hope that the Archbishop would reply with words of comfort for Mr. Riggio, his family, state legislators, and all others who were injured by Rev. Pfleger's thoughtless, inflammatory remarks." In a message on the church's website, Pfleger says he believes that "we are called by God to build this church in a world filled with division, alienation and racism in order that we may be a witness to the world that it is possible and that the love of God is stronger than the hate of Satan." "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #2 June 24, 2007 If you ask me "snuff"was nothing but a bad choice of words and dosn't necessarily imply murder. Guess the pro gun types will run with anything to try and champion their cause..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #3 June 24, 2007 QuoteIf you ask me "snuff"was nothing but a bad choice of words and dosn't necessarily imply murder. Guess the pro gun types will run with anything to try and champion their cause. Do you have reason to believe that I thought he was making a death threat? You are the only one who has mentioned murder. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #4 June 24, 2007 Read your own "link".CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #5 June 24, 2007 QuoteIf you ask me "snuff"was nothing but a bad choice of words and dosn't necessarily imply murder. Guess the pro gun types will run with anything to try and champion their cause. So if you heard someone say they were going to snuff YOU out, you wouldn't sweat it? Just a poor choice of words, right? The phrase "snuff out" generally DOES mean murder when you're talking about snuffing out people. What other meanings does it have? If anyone's reaching here, it's you. Edit: Directed to gun shop owner: "We're going to find you and SNUFF YOU OUT" -- seems like a direct murder threat to me. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #6 June 24, 2007 You could also interpet it as changing/stopping something from happening like the sale of guns for example i.e. the gun trade. If someone wanted to snuff me out'heavens forbid'crack on i'll die laughing..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #7 June 24, 2007 QuoteRead your own "link" Good point! The author of the news report believes that a threat to snuff someone out "appears" to be a death threat. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #8 June 24, 2007 QuoteYou could also interpet it as changing/stopping something from happening like the sale of guns for example i.e. the gun trade. If someone wanted to snuff me out'heavens forbid'crack on i'll die laughing. I see your point, but disagree that that's what he meant. "Find you and snuff you out". Huh. Only the good priest knows for sure. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #9 June 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou could also interpet it as changing/stopping something from happening like the sale of guns for example i.e. the gun trade. If someone wanted to snuff me out'heavens forbid'crack on i'll die laughing. I see your point, but disagree that that's what he meant. "Find you and snuff you out". Huh. Only the good priest knows for sure. I really don't believe it was intended as a death threat, but if the law-abiding business person (Gun Trafficer to some) had said the same thing in reference to the anti-gunners, the press would have exploded into a frenzy. That's really the point. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #10 June 24, 2007 QuoteI really don't believe it was intended as a death threat, but if the law-abiding business person (Gun Trafficer to some) had said the same thing in reference to the anti-gunners, the press would have exploded into a frenzy. That's really the point. Agree. Just another "shred of evidence" regarding the leftward bias of the MSM -- a topic so resoundly ignored by the lefties on here. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 June 25, 2007 QuoteIf you ask me "snuff"was nothing but a bad choice of words and dosn't necessarily imply murder. Guess the pro gun types will run with anything to try and champion their cause. Get real - snuff means one thing. Snuff film doesn't refer to a porn movie. Prolifers advocating the murder of abortion doctors have been taken in for this sort of statement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 June 25, 2007 QuoteVerb 1. snuff out - put an end to; kill; "The Nazis snuffed out the life of many Jewish children" extinguish do away with, eliminate, get rid of - terminate or take out; "Let's eliminate the course on Akkadian hieroglyphics" stamp - destroy or extinguish as if by stamping with the foot; "Stamp fascism into submission"; "stamp out tyranny" put out, smother - deprive of the oxygen necessary for combustion; "smother fires" 2. snuff out - put out, as of fires, flames, or lights; "Too big to be extinguished at once, the forest fires at best could be contained"; "quench the flames"; "snuff out the candles" blow out, extinguish, quench douse, put out - put out, as of a candle or a light; "Douse the lights" black out - obliterate or extinguish; "Some life-forms were obliterated by the radiation, others survived" witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #13 June 25, 2007 I believe the guy was talking about the gun trade.Douse it,extinguish it etc etc.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #14 June 25, 2007 QuoteI believe the guy was talking about the gun trade.Douse it,extinguish it etc etc Then why didn't he say "Gun trade" instead of using the shop owners name? Nice try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #15 June 25, 2007 Quote We're going to find you and snuff you out … you know you're going to hide like a rat. You're going to hide but like a rat we're going to catch you and pull you out. We are not going to allow you to continue to hide when we're here …" "We're going to keep coming back, and like Reverend Jackson says, it takes civil disobedience, if it takes whatever it takes … we're going to snuff out John Riggio, we're going to snuff out legislators that are voting … and we are coming for you because we are not going to sit idly. Keep on fighting, people. Keep on fighting, keep on fighting." I can't see how anyone would take his words as a threat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 June 25, 2007 QuoteI believe the guy was talking about the gun trade.Douse it,extinguish it etc etc Phillip Morris could have really used you a decade ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #17 June 26, 2007 We're going to find you and snuff you out … you know you're going to hide like a rat. You're going to hide but like a rat we're going to catch you and pull you out. We are not going to allow you to continue to hide when we're here …" "We're going to keep coming back, even if it takes civil disobedience, if it takes whatever it takes … we're going to snuff out Jesse Jackson, we're going to snuff out Chuckie Schumer and Dianne Feinstein… and we are coming for you because we are not going to sit idly. Keep on fighting, people. Keep on fighting, keep on fighting." Does anyone believe that the above would be ignored by the mainstream media? Does anyone believe that the Left would dismiss it as a poor choice of words? Does anyone believe that the Left would claim that by "Snuff Out", the speaker meant to simply vote them out of office?* Does anyone believe that the NRA would invite someone that stupid to speak at their rally? *Of course, Jesses Jackson cannot be voted out of office, because he has never been voted into any office. Speaking of which, has he ever even had a job? "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 June 26, 2007 Quote*Of course, Jesses Jackson cannot be voted out of office, because he has never been voted into any office. Speaking of which, has he ever even had a job? Head of the Rainbow Coalition is a job, and he was pretty relevent in the 80s. (Sort of like how Michael Jackson wasn't a freak in the 80s) Sometime later, he seemed to lose his way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 June 26, 2007 In front of the Rainbow coalition push headquarters there are a few flags flying, none of whuch is the US Flag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites