SiCKO - What are your thoughts on Michael Moore's new film?

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I love my five year old nephew to death, but honestly, if I need investment advice, I'm going to my 42 year old brother in law instead of my nephew. But if _you_ need investment advice, I'd be happy to let you meet my nephew! You might have to play "chase me" with him, though, before he will recommend specific mutual funds.

And would you ask investment advice from a poor 50-year old musician before you would ask a wealthy 30-year-old banker?

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Do you believe that most older people have more experience than most younger people?

"Experience" is a very broad term. Can't really answer that question without specifying what kind of experience. I wouldn't usually consider age in choosing who to ask advice from; I'd consider what their actual experience with the subject is.

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>And would you ask investment advice from a poor 50-year old musician
>before you would ask a wealthy 30-year-old banker?

If that poor 50-year old musician had been a world class financial analyst before giving it up to play the blues, and the banker was under investigation by the SEC? Yep, I would. That's the problem with adding such qualifications; you can always add another one to make your point.

Here's a more equal-playing-field sort of question:

Let's say you have two investment analysts who pick a "favorite stock of the month." They are both always right; the stock they choose always makes money. They're both been doing this since they got their MBA's. One is 25 and has been doing it for a year. The other is 55 and has been doing it for 21 years. Which one would you go to?

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>And would you ask investment advice from a poor 50-year old musician
>before you would ask a wealthy 30-year-old banker?

If that poor 50-year old musician had been a world class financial analyst before giving it up to play the blues, and the banker was under investigation by the SEC? Yep, I would. That's the problem with adding such qualifications; you can always add another one to make your point.

Here's a more equal-playing-field sort of question:

Let's say you have two investment analysts who pick a "favorite stock of the month." They are both always right; the stock they choose always makes money. They're both been doing this since they got their MBA's. One is 25 and has been doing it for a year. The other is 55 and has been doing it for 21 years. Which one would you go to?

Well, if the 55-year-old is under investigation by the SEC, and the 25-year-old is not, then I'd probably go with the 25-year-old.

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They're both been doing this since they got their MBA's. One is 25 and has been doing it for a year. The other is 55 and has been doing it for 21 years. Which one would you go to?

Tech Stock?? Possibly the younger guy. Especially if I am looking for aggressive growth. Ideally you should listen to both and see which makes the most since to you and of course do your own due diligence.

Age does not always = Wisdom. I know plenty of stupid old people. I also know quite a few very Bright younger people.

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>Well, if the 55-year-old is under investigation by the SEC, and the
>25-year-old is not, then I'd probably go with the 25-year-old.

See? You can play the game too. But I know you see what I'm talking about.

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I think you're saying that having 21 years experience in something is better than having one year of experience, which is probably true in most cases. And that is somewhat related to age, but not completely. (You can't have 21 years of experience if you're only 10, but simply being 55 doesn't mean that you have 21 years experience of anything other than living.)

I'm sure that if you wanted medical advice, you'd ask your younger wife who has been through medical school, rather than running down to the senior center and asking the oldest person you can find (not knowing what kind of medical knowledge they have).

I think what Butters was saying is that age does not automatically equal wisdom and experience, and I agree with him. Yes, most people gain wisdom as they get older, but in different amounts. So being 50 doesn't necessarily make one wiser than someone else who is 30.

Anyhow, if all you old people are so wise, then why haven't you fixed our health care system yet?

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Anyhow, if all you old people are so wise, then why haven't you fixed our health care system yet?

Because we realize the fact that letting the government interfere (more than it has already) into it is going to cost more and provide less.

Mike
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Some 'documentary'!!!

Propaganda for what he believes in, yes... documentary? No friggin way...

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Mike
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Anyhow, if all you old people are so wise, then why haven't you fixed our health care system yet?

Because we realize the fact that letting the government interfere (more than it has already) into it is going to cost more and provide less.

I didn't say anything about letting the government interfere.

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Anyhow, if all you old people are so wise, then why haven't you fixed our health care system yet?

Because we realize the fact that letting the government interfere (more than it has already) into it is going to cost more and provide less.

I didn't say anything about letting the government interfere.

True, you didn't - but that seems to be the premise of Moore's film, that socialized health care is some sort of magic wand...so I replied to that premise.

My apologies for the confusion!

Mike
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My apologies for the confusion!

That's ok. I'll beat you later, and then we'll be even.

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Mike
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Let's say you have two investment analysts who pick a "favorite stock of the month." They are both always right; the stock they choose always makes money. They're both been doing this since they got their MBA's. One is 25 and has been doing it for a year. The other is 55 and has been doing it for 21 years. Which one would you go to?

And to answer this question without playing games, I'll use my post that you were replying to: "I wouldn't usually consider age in choosing who to ask advice from; I'd consider what their actual experience with the subject is."

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I don't and won't believe that older people will always have more experience than younger people and I will not believe that because a person has more experience that they also have more wisdom.

AAAH... If I only knew then what I know now...
Time = Experience = Wisdom.
A person of, let's say, 75 knows far more than a person of 25 about life. But, I assume, that a person of 75 was much like the 25 year old at one time untill one day that person finds themself at 75 and looking back, shaking his or her head and saying "if I only knew then what I know now...".

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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But if _you_ need investment advice, I'd be happy to let you meet my nephew! You might have to play "chase me" with him, though, before he will recommend specific mutual funds.

CLASSIC!

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>Well, if the 55-year-old is under investigation by the SEC, and the
>25-year-old is not, then I'd probably go with the 25-year-old.

See? You can play the game too. But I know you see what I'm talking about.

What you are talking about ... you are contradicting yourself. On one hand you state that an older person has more experience and wisdom than a younger person. On the other hand you state that age is but one of the many factors in determining experience and wisdom. Clarification?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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AAAH... If I only knew then what I know now...
Time = Experience = Wisdom.

I agree that a person of 75 knows more than they knew at 25 ... I disagree that a person of 75 knows more than a person of 25.

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A person of, let's say, 75 knows far more than a person of 25 about life. But, I assume, that a person of 75 was much like the 25 year old at one time untill one day that person finds themself at 75 and looking back, shaking his or her head and saying "if I only knew then what I know now...".

A person makes a decision based on what they know. A person knows more as they age. It is only natural that someone will remember a decision they made in their past that they would change given knowledge they acquired after that decision.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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It is only natural that someone will remember a decision they made in their past that they would change given knowledge they acquired after that decision.

Please remember that.. and get back to us in about oh.. say 25 years.. and see if you MIGHT have a different perspective.

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So what? He's an ARTIST! He owes nothing more to the truth than Shakespeare or any other artist.

If he's going to accept Oscars for "documentary filmmaking," he most certainly does owe something to the truth -- namely, telling it.

There are websites galore that detail very succinctly the LIES he told in "Bowling for Columbine." Anyone who could watch that movie, then read the easy refutations of the many lies and distortions he told in it, and then wish to watch more of his garbage deserves to have his head full of crap, in my opinion.

It's sort of like when Dateline faked those explosive gas tanks on the pickup trucks. They should have canceled the show and fired everyone involved in making up that fraud. Instead, because people are willing to continue to pay attention to liars, it's still on the air. But in my view, if you purport to be telling facts, and you are shown to be out-and-out lying, you've blown your ONE chance, and I will never listen to you again.

So it goes with MM, for me.

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if you purport to be telling facts, and you are shown to be out-and-out lying, you've blown your ONE chance, and I will never listen to you again.

So it goes with MM, for me.

"telling facts?"
MM does present facts. You just don't like the way he presents them, or rather the conclusions he draws from them. I don't necessarily care for it either in many cases.
But you're talking about this subject, you're tweaked about him making the movie, and it's got America talking. Headline yesterday "Healthcare in America likely the most important plank in any candidate's position." Would that have been the case were it not for this film? I don't think so.
Did you see the movie?

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A person makes a decision based on what they know. A person knows more as they age. It is only natural that someone will remember a decision they made in their past that they would change given knowledge they acquired after that decision.

And that is... Time = Experience = Wisdom.
Your learning more everyday, young grasshopper
Back in the 80's, I went to work on the railroad. We lived in the railcar that we worked testing rail. Sure, I learned a few things from those in my own age group but, the real learning came from the guys who have been rolling down the rails for 30+ years and have seen and encountered the things that I have yet to see or encountered. Their advise always trumped the advise of someone with just a few years on the rails. It is far wiser to take the advise of those who have traveled around the block than those who have only taken a few steps.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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MM does present facts. Did you see the movie?

I have not seen it yet. But my question many posts ago has still not been answered. In this movie does Moore say or imply that there is universal dentalcare in Canada?

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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MM does present facts. Did you see the movie?

I have not seen it yet. But my question many posts ago has still not been answered. In this movie does Moore say or imply that there is universal dentalcare in Canada?

No, he does not imply anything about universal dental care.

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It's sort of like when Dateline faked those explosive gas tanks on the pickup trucks.

I think Dateline should have to apologize for that lie at the beginning and end of every Dateline show.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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It's sort of like when Dateline faked those explosive gas tanks on the pickup trucks.

I think Dateline should have to apologize for that lie at the beginning and end of every Dateline show.

Yeah, either that or the piece of garbage show should have gone off the air permanently. But failing that, yeah, they should have to mention their deceit at the start and end of every show, and remind the audience that it might not be wise to accept everything said on the show.

Just like Michael Moore.

I saw the bullshit he laid on in B.F.C. and I know that the man has no problem playing fast and loose with "truth," so I don't count on there being much that is not deliberately distorted in any of his subsequent movies.

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