crwtom 0 #1 June 26, 2007 another disturbing poll results Scroll to Question 6 What IQ do you need to have to still believe that ... " ....Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?" 41% fit that category - a number that has even gone up since last fall. It makes me think, what if this percentage was something more digestible like <3%. What would happen to: - the already low approval of GWB? Although the admin stated publicly that there are no such connections, much of whatever popularity GWB still had was/is riding on this myth. We might be talking teens. - the support of the Iraq war? Only about a third are supportive of the was. Remarkably, less than those who believe in a 9/11 connection. You have to conclude that nearly 10% are so tired of the war they'd be willing to let 9/11 terrorists go free. - military recruitment? Large numbers of people enlisted b/c of 9/11 and endured being sent on 3rd and 4th tours to Iraq as well as a VA system with many problems. How many would put up with this if they were convinced Iraq had little to nothing to do with 9/11. Will recruiters have to promise mansions on the beach and free PhDs? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #2 June 26, 2007 97 Am I right? What'd I win? I love guessing games. I'm pretty good at 'em, you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3 June 26, 2007 Quote97 Am I right? What'd I win? I love guessing games. I'm pretty good at 'em, you know. You are aware that the mean IQ in the USA is not 100, right? Which is why it's important to know which population you refer to when talking about IQ averages.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #4 June 26, 2007 QuoteQuote97 Am I right? What'd I win? I love guessing games. I'm pretty good at 'em, you know. You are aware that the mean IQ in the USA is not 100, right? Which is why it's important to know which population you refer to when talking about IQ averages. What is the mean IQ in the USA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 June 26, 2007 QuoteWhat is the mean IQ in the USA? I dunno, but the sarcastic one must be around 135.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 June 26, 2007 Do you know what "Standard Deviation" is? That is how wide or narrow the bell curve around the mean score is distributed. Each different IQ test has it's own "Standard Deviation". That is why Mensa requires a different qualifying score for each IQ test, even though it's requirement is simply to score in the top 2%."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #7 June 26, 2007 QuoteYou are aware that the mean IQ in the USA is not 100, right? Which is why it's important to know which population you refer to when talking about IQ averages. Is it just as important to know which race you refer to when talking about IQ averages? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #8 June 26, 2007 Wow. Those numbers, along with seeing that one woman dies every minute from childbirth, makes me think that we should outlaw child birth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 June 26, 2007 I'm amazed at question 7. WHo'd have thought that so many of those 20 were Skydivers and post here on SC! Whats the chances of that??? GOOOAL!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #10 June 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou are aware that the mean IQ in the USA is not 100, right? Which is why it's important to know which population you refer to when talking about IQ averages. Is it just as important to know which race you refer to when talking about IQ averages? For the purposes of statistical analysis, you define a population to be a set of individuals, items or data that has been measured. You can look at the population of skydivers, Norwegians, or one legged pirates if you wish. Without stating which population is sampled, average IQs are pretty meaningless.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,456 #11 June 26, 2007 There is hope: Quote 28. Do you happen to know the name of the winner of FOX TV’s American Idol competition this year? 18 Yes, Sparks/Jordin Sparks 4 Yes, other name given 77 No/Don’t know/Can’t name anyone1 Don’t know/Refused Well, maybe not Quote 8. As far as you know, has Osama Bin Laden been tracked down and captured by the United States? 11 Yes85 No 4 Don’t know/Refused Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #12 June 26, 2007 What the hell do these questions have to do with IQ?This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #13 June 26, 2007 >WHo'd have thought that so many of those 20 were Skydivers and post here on SC! There are several war supporters on here who believe that we have found Saddam's WMD's and that he was indeed involved in 9/11. Indeed, they pat themselves on the back for knowing the truth while us "ignorant" people believe the "media lies." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #14 June 26, 2007 Quote There are several war supporters on here who believe that we have found Saddam's WMD's and that he was indeed involved in 9/11. Indeed, they pat themselves on the back for knowing the truth while us "ignorant" people believe the "media lies." Name four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 June 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhat is the mean IQ in the USA? I dunno, but the sarcastic one must be around 135. no kidding. I'm interested to see if Kallend will end the suspect and give us his point. IQ tests are designed to have a symmetric distribution centered at 100, so the mean/mode/median should also be right around that value. Factor in cultural bias and the uneven sampling (intelligent people take more IQ tests, but less intelligent people have to keep retaking tests like the SAT to get the best possible result). I'm interesting in how much the NCAA requirements - was 700 before the scores were normalized up - bring down the average as thousands of football players take it 5 or 6 times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 June 26, 2007 Quote Name four. 1. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1130562#1130562 2. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1131536#1131536 3.http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1131751#1131751 4.http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1132881#1132881 Want more from more threads?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #17 June 26, 2007 Quote There is hope: Quote 28. Do you happen to know the name of the winner of FOX TV’s American Idol competition this year? 18 Yes, Sparks/Jordin Sparks 4 Yes, other name given 77 No/Don’t know/Can’t name anyone1 Don’t know/Refused Well, maybe not Quote 8. As far as you know, has Osama Bin Laden been tracked down and captured by the United States? 11 Yes85 No 4 Don’t know/Refused Wendy W. So. Do you think if we have caught or did catch OBL the current admin. would keep it quiet to keep the GWOT going or produce him but say " It's a BIG victory BUT we have to keep the GWOT going?" Hell I guesas we have to now since we helped create so many more terrorists.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 June 26, 2007 seems like the question is a bit too fuzzy. Some chemical munitions have been found. No substantial amount, and they may predate the war, but would fit within the question, particularly if you read 'since the war began' as the US search efforts, not the point at which the weapons were hidden. So someone with knowledge of the subject can answer yes or no to that part. It was a lousy question. No one with knowledge can answer yes to Iraq's direct involvement in 9/11. But I'm not sure this polling really says as much as crwtom fears. A good majority of people barely know anything and given a yes/no question, may be guessing. "I don't know" was an option, but many people won't use it, and if they heard the rumblings of the loose connection between Saddam and al Queda or heard some fishy munitions were found, opt for the yes guess. It's not like they can fail a poll. Those same people can be more concerned about the war itself because the costs in dollars and lives is more quantifiable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #19 June 26, 2007 Quote There are several war supporters on here who believe that we have found Saddam's WMD's and that he was indeed involved in 9/11. Found Saddam's WMDs AND that he was indeed involved in 9/11. I notice you had to dig back a ways to find those posts, that only partially address half of Bill's claim. At least one of the posters in question hasn't logged on this year. Bill's claim was in the present tense. Can you find an recent posts supporting both of his claims? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 June 26, 2007 I was actually speaking of myself.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 June 26, 2007 With as many people as the DOD put on the ground in search of them......and with the amount of money available to ANY Iraqi people to show where they are.....I am not buying the WMD hidden scam for one second. The Inspectors were not finding any.. and George and Dick wanted to get their PNAC Excellent Adventure off to a BIG BANG.... too bad 3500 of our young people have had to sacrifice their lives on the PNAC Altar of Misinformation so that GW could be a War President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #22 June 26, 2007 Thanks Jeanie. (Needless to say, war supporters will soon be jumping on this, saying "well, I didn't say we found ALL the WMD's, just some! And I didn't post the exact words 'I believe that we have found Saddam's WMDs' so your post is completely invalid. Nice try, though.") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 June 26, 2007 one answer - 41% of Americans are below an IQ of 200 ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #24 June 26, 2007 QuoteThanks Jeanie. (Needless to say, war supporters will soon be jumping on this, saying "well, I didn't say we found ALL the WMD's, just some! And I didn't post the exact words 'I believe that we have found Saddam's WMDs' so your post is completely invalid. Nice try, though.") This sets the bar for lame, weak sauce back tracks. Good one. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #25 June 26, 2007 QuoteThanks Jeanie. (Needless to say, war supporters will soon be jumping on this, saying "well, I didn't say we found ALL the WMD's, just some! And I didn't post the exact words 'I believe that we have found Saddam's WMDs' so your post is completely invalid. Nice try, though.") We didn't find shit after March 03. We had teams inside in late 02 watching the exodus westward. All declassified, so no one freak out. If it wasn't for the hearts and minds bullshit (read UN) - and the MB (main body) would have gone in sooner - They wouldn't have gotten to Syria. No sweat, that gives the 08 Democratic administration their war to fight later. I just carry the torch. Business is guuuuud. And I'm not a war supporter - more of a war connoisseur. A supporter sits and watches, a connoisseur gets close enough to taste it. FYI Prof. K - My Stanford-Binet is 162. DLAB 116 (not an IQ score - look it up folks). Not magnificent, but not too bad for a a loathsome Barbarian, eh? sits back and revels in the mumbled disgust- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites