Darius11 12 #1 June 26, 2007 I don’t think I have ever been more confused. I listen to the Liberal side, and I like the philosophy but real world application of most of their philosophies is not realistic. I listen to the Reps. and they seem more realistic but at the same time some of their views are just unacceptable and just based on religion. I am not discussing any particular issue it is just the feel I get from all the issues combined. I find it very frustrating that I would feel more comfortable voting for my Postman then any of the candidates. Is there anyone you feel strongly about? Or has anyone got your vote already? And why?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 June 26, 2007 Darius, try checking into Fred Thompson, he is not perfect(nobody is), but probably our best bet for a good/great president. By all accounts I can find, he keeps his word. He is a matter of fact guy, and very intelligent. Is not afraid to tell us what he thinks, he needs no fucking polls to tell him what to think. Remember when we told you about the Liberatarian Party? BTW how have you been? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #3 June 26, 2007 The Libertarian Party has a GREAT Platform and Philosophy.. Unfortunately the party is run by and controlled by NutJobs and extremist. (Kind of like the Two Major parties). If the Libertarians could find quality leadership and shift focus from fringe issues like Drug Legalization and abolishment of the IRS they could make a real difference. Until then they will be just another poorly implemented good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 June 26, 2007 Tell us more about your Postman. What's his position on the Fair Tax? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 June 26, 2007 They're all human, they all have flaws. So far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. I am, however, open to the idea there may be somebody out there that has not yet declared that might be better. I think I have quite a few months to make up my mind. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 June 26, 2007 QuoteDarius, try checking into Fred Thompson, he is not perfect(nobody is), but probably our best bet for a good/great president. By all accounts I can find, he keeps his word. He is a matter of fact guy, and very intelligent. Is not afraid to tell us what he thinks, he needs no fucking polls to tell him what to think. Remember when we told you about the Liberatarian Party? BTW how have you been? Thx. I will check him out. He is the Law and order guy right? I don't know anything about him. The qualities you mentioned are the ones I hold as very important as well. I also do like the libertarian party from what I know and I don’t know much. I think there basic philosophy is you can do what ever you want as long as it does not directly effect others. They also believe in small government. I like both of those positions. I have been great. Just lots of work, haven't been able to jump much but life is good man. How about you bro?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #7 June 26, 2007 QuoteSo far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. +1 Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #8 June 26, 2007 QuoteThey're all human, they all have flaws. So far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. I have not looked at Fred Thompson yet so I will research him a bit, but right now I like McCain the most so far as well. I get a sense of honor from the man and less BS then I get from the others. It is too early your right on that. I think I might over think this as well. This will be the first presidential election I will be allowed to cast a vote for. So I am excited and really want to make the right decision. I am looking for any information I can get. Thank you.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 June 26, 2007 QuoteThe Libertarian Party has a GREAT Platform and Philosophy.. Unfortunately the party is run by and controlled by NutJobs and extremist. (Kind of like the Two Major parties). If the Libertarians could find quality leadership and shift focus from fringe issues like Drug Legalization and abolishment of the IRS they could make a real difference. Until then they will be just another poorly implemented good idea. Unfortunately true... that seems to be the main difference between "Big L" and "little l" libertarians.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 June 26, 2007 Quote This will be the first presidential election I will be allowed to cast a vote for. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 June 26, 2007 Quote So far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. I used to respect McCain until a few months ago when he started sounding like a puppet for Dubya. I think he woke up one morning and found a horse head in his bed."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 June 26, 2007 Republican: Ron Paul Democrat: Mike Gravel"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 June 26, 2007 Quote The Libertarian Party has a GREAT Platform and Philosophy.. Unfortunately the party is run by and controlled by NutJobs and extremist. (Kind of like the Two Major parties). If the Libertarians could find quality leadership and shift focus from fringe issues like Drug Legalization and abolishment of the IRS they could make a real difference. Until then they will be just another poorly implemented good idea. That and the very nature of being a Libertarian doesn't want to rely on any kind of centralized government/authority. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #14 June 26, 2007 Quote Quote This will be the first presidential election I will be allowed to cast a vote for. hmmmmmmmmmmm i spelled somthing wrong didn't I?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #15 June 26, 2007 Quote So far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. Is he responsible for those oven fries? If so, he'd get my vote! Sorry, not too up on your Americanian Polyticks! 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #16 June 26, 2007 Quote So far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. Seven years ago I would have agreed with you. But over the last three or four he's proven to be too unpredictable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #17 June 26, 2007 Nope, he is just giving you kuddos for your first elections..."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 June 26, 2007 QuoteRepublican: Ron Paul Democrat: Mike Gravel Ron Paul seems a little nutty to me but I have very limited info on him. I have not even heard of Mike Gravel. I am headed to Google! Thanks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #19 June 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteRepublican: Ron Paul Democrat: Mike Gravel Ron Paul seems a little nutty to me but I have very limited info on him. I have not even heard of Mike Gravel. I am headed to Google! Thanks They were both in the debates, and IIRC both have been on The Daily Show. And they both have more common sense than the rest of their peers."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #20 June 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteRepublican: Ron Paul Democrat: Mike Gravel Ron Paul seems a little nutty to me but I have very limited info on him. I have not even heard of Mike Gravel. I am headed to Google! Thanks They were both in the debates, and IIRC both have been on The Daily Show. And they both have more common sense than the rest of their peers. But do their supporters have enough $$$$ free speech $$$$ to make them viable candidates? One thing's for sure, the $GREEN$ party wins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 June 26, 2007 Quote Quote Quote This will be the first presidential election I will be allowed to cast a vote for. hmmmmmmmmmmm i spelled somthing wrong didn't I? it looks ok from here - no spelling issues anyway, congrats - it's cool you get to vote (cool = ) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 June 26, 2007 QuoteQuote So far and out of all of the declared candidates I would support McCain. I used to respect McCain until a few months ago when he started sounding like a puppet for Dubya. I think he woke up one morning and found a horse head in his bed. I think he has the Perot sickness (mild insanity). In the list of greatest evils, it goes Obama (inexperienced), McCain (hates the bill of rights) and Clinton (no explanation necessary). These were the main candidates of 2006. We'll see if better horses show up by the end of 2007. Looks like that will be the case. Edwards, Gulianni, Bloomberg, ... ?? But if you're faced with two crappy choices, I tend towards the party that hasn't been in the white house for 8 years. After too much time in power, the dominant party gets pretty blantant in their corruption and lack of responsiveness to the people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #23 June 26, 2007 QuoteThe Libertarian Party has a GREAT Platform and Philosophy.. Unfortunately the party is run by and controlled by NutJobs and extremist. (Kind of like the Two Major parties). If the Libertarians could find quality leadership and shift focus from fringe issues like Drug Legalization and abolishment of the IRS they could make a real difference. Until then they will be just another poorly implemented good idea. Our political climate is one of the candidates offering goods and services to the electorate. Both sides do this. Libertarian's basic message is "let's get rid of all these goodies". It won't sell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #24 June 26, 2007 QuoteBut if you're faced with two crappy choices, I tend towards the party that hasn't been in the white house for 8 years. After too much time in power, the dominant party gets pretty blantant in their corruption and lack of responsiveness to the people. well, see what that philosophy got you 8 years ago ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #25 June 26, 2007 [soapbox]Our elected officials were originally chosen among us and basically drew the short straw from their community. They had to skip the harvest, or the planting, or whichever...to take the will of the people to the government. Then in a year or so, it rotated to another member of the community. Until we manage our way back to THAT instead of representation being a way to parlay a $140,000 salary into millions per year, we will cointinue to have one party. That of the wealthy. Viva la revolucion (it's past due)....bitches.[/soapbox]- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
