grue 1 #1 July 12, 2007 The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 July 12, 2007 I wonder what he has on Bush..... just a thought... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #3 July 12, 2007 QuoteI wonder what he has on Bush..... just a thought... Bush doesn't care about the constitution or America either, I'm more wondering about Congress.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 July 12, 2007 Quote Quote I wonder what he has on Bush..... just a thought... Bush doesn't care about the constitution or America either, I'm more wondering about Congress. Yes, I miss the good old days when more than 12 members of Congress had the balls to impeach an administration run amuck. If Watergate happened today, it would be forgotten in a week."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #5 July 12, 2007 Quote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office?You mean this guy?>Gonzales Was Told of FBI Violations After Bureau Sent Reports, Attorney General Said He Knew of No Wrongdoing By John Solomon Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, July 10, 2007; A01 As he sought to renew the USA Patriot Act two years ago, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured lawmakers that the FBI had not abused its potent new terrorism-fighting powers. "There has not been one verified case of civil liberties abuse," Gonzales told senators on April 27, 2005. Six days earlier, the FBI sent Gonzales a copy of a report that said its agents had obtained personal information that they were not entitled to have. It was one of at least half a dozen reports of legal or procedural violations that Gonzales received in the three months before he made his statement to the Senate intelligence committee, according to internal FBI documents released under the Freedom of Information Act. The acts recounted in the FBI reports included unauthorized surveillance, an illegal property search and a case in which an Internet firm improperly turned over a compact disc with data that the FBI was not entitled to collect, the documents show. Gonzales was copied on each report that said administrative rules or laws protecting civil liberties and privacy had been violated.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #6 July 12, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I wonder what he has on Bush..... just a thought... Bush doesn't care about the constitution or America either, I'm more wondering about Congress. Yes, I miss the good old days when more than 12 members of Congress had the balls to impeach an administration run amuck. If Watergate happened today, it would be forgotten in a week. Like THIS> From Washington Post.> Obama's Campaign Headquarters Burglarized 2 Laptops and Campaign Literature Taken (AP) DAVENPORT, Iowa The Davenport, Iowa, campaign headquarters for presidential candidate Barack Obama was burglarized Friday evening. Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor says two laptop computers and some campaign literature were taken. A campaign worker discovered the burglary this morning, and a report was filed with Davenport police. Vietor says that it doesn't appear that it was anything sensitive or irreplaceable was takenI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #7 July 12, 2007 Quote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? Because god wills it? Because W wills it? Because we've allowed the media to become marketing tools of DC and no one gives a crap? Maybe because the American people of today are too comfortable to take to the streets as done in the early 70's? Because he knows where the skeletons are buried? Perhaps he has pictures of W having sex with a sheep? Then there is always the flip side, maybe he's doing a great job and the American people are the ones with the skewed view?? In the end, does it really matter? he's just one more capo in the don's big family. The Bush administration is a hydra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #8 July 12, 2007 Quote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? I don't know. Perhaps you could ask the people who control Congress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #9 July 12, 2007 Quote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? Despite two opportunities (see www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2879366#2879366) it seems that not even our most devout right wingers will come to Gonzales's defense.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #10 July 12, 2007 Quote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? Its just more efficient then conducting a big trial, spending millions in legal fees, finding the guy guilty, and then giving him a pardon.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 July 12, 2007 QuoteI don't know. Perhaps you could ask the people who control Congress. Congress has no control over members of the Executive after they are confirmed..... ESPECIALLY when they will not even be sworn in for testimony.... And use EXECUTIVE PRIVELEDGE... Like I said he must have some really good dirt on the Shrub... maybe his REAL medical records from his "service" in the National Guard. Or maybe the tests done when he was arrested for drunk driving... Or maybe some of the under the table deals that have bailed the fearless leader out of bankruptcy....while the rest of his investors in the companies he was running tanked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #12 July 12, 2007 Quote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? He has no respect for Dems, he's just a guy that is really good at pissing off libs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #13 July 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteI don't know. Perhaps you could ask the people who control Congress. Congress has no control over members of the Executive after they are confirmed..... ESPECIALLY when they will not even be sworn in for testimony.... And use EXECUTIVE PRIVELEDGE.... You mean Congress can't force Cabinet members out of office? How come the "No confidence resolution" failed to move forward? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 July 12, 2007 QuoteQuote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? He has no respect for Dems, he's just a guy that is really good at pissing off libs. He only pisses off the libs that associate with the Democratic party. All the libs who call themselves Republicans are brainwashed into thinking that supporting him makes them conservative. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #15 July 12, 2007 Quote All the libs who call themselves Republicans are brainwashed into thinking that supporting him makes them conservative. Who are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #16 July 12, 2007 >He has no respect for Dems, he's just a guy that is really good at pissing off libs. So he's the opposite of W. Clinton, in other words? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #17 July 12, 2007 Quote>He has no respect for Dems, he's just a guy that is really good at pissing off libs. So he's the opposite of W. Clinton, in other words? Yea, kind of like a parallel universe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #18 July 12, 2007 QuoteQuote The guy has no respect for the Constitution, nor the civil liberties of Americans. How has he not been kicked out of office? He has no respect for Dems, he's just a guy that is really good at pissing off libs. Are you trying to imply I'm a democrat or liberal?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 July 12, 2007 Because he did not do anything illeagal?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #20 July 13, 2007 QuoteBecause he did not dohas not YET been found guilty of anything illeagal?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 July 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteBecause he did not dohas not YET been found guilty of anything illeagal? So, we can't let the system run for him huh? I thought the system, that you defend so hard for Libby, says he is inocent until found guilty and hell man, he hasn't even been charged? So which is it ? Should the system be allowed to run or not? Hhhhmmmmmm?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #22 July 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteBecause he did not dohas not YET been found guilty of anything illeagal? So, we can't let the system run for him huh? I thought the system, that you defend so hard for Libby, says he is inocent until found guilty and hell man, he hasn't even been charged? So which is it ? Should the system be allowed to run or not? Hhhhmmmmmm? Just correcting your logic, mate. (1) We don't know if he's done anything illegal or not. (2) He can be dismissed without having been found guilty by a court. A "Caesar's wife" kind of thing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #23 July 13, 2007 QuoteBecause he did not dohas not YET been found guilty of anything illeagal? Has he even been accused of doing anything illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 July 13, 2007 QuoteHas he even been accused of doing anything illegal? Nice benchmark to hit there bubba... Remember all the rhetoric about morality and dignity that was going to be returned to the highest office in the land... GW has failed miserably at that... and brought along a whole group who were incapable of it as well. Instead we have an entrenched group of political hacks pulling shenanigans that would make 19th Century Boss Tweed proud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #25 July 13, 2007 Quote Quote Has he even been accused of doing anything illegal? Nice benchmark to hit there bubba... Why thank you, Rosie. Quote Remember all the rhetoric about morality and dignity that was going to be returned to the highest office in the land... GW has failed miserably at that... and brought along a whole group who were incapable of it as well. Instead we have an entrenched group of political hacks pulling shenanigans that would make 19th Century Boss Tweed proud. Take it up with Kallend. My question was a response to his post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
