Bush criticism

[freeflydrew 0]

I think that Bush is one of the most optimistic people I have ever encountered... not too realistic, but plenty optimistic.

:-)

I loved his bit about the impact on Pig farmers if we use corn for energy.

[quade 4]

The word you're looking for is delusional.

See; http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070712/wl_mideast_afp/usiraqpolitics_070712151048

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

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The word you're looking for is delusional.

See; http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070712/wl_mideast_afp/usiraqpolitics_070712151048

that is the correct word for those afflicted with bush hatred syndrome

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

Actually Rush, I think you might want to click on the links provided and read the definition again.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Amazon 7]

I am just curious.. Oh mighty right wingers... since you have a quaint label for anyone who does not agree with you...libs..dims...Bush Haters...etc ad nauseum....

What is the correct label for those who enjoy taking it up the ass from this administration on every last issue and enjoy it.

[rushmc 23]

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Actually Rush, I think you might want to click on the links provided and read the definition again.

So you know I don't know what the word means. wow



wooosh

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

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So you know I don't know what the word means.

No. I assume by your first illogical and non-sequitur responce that you don't.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

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So you know I don't know what the word means.

No. I assume by your first illogical and non-sequitur responce that you don't.

not surprising

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

Well, gee Rush, ya know you could always try to actually defend the President and try to prove how wrong our assessment is rather than just the automatic gainsaying of whatever it is we're pointing out.

Please illuminate us on his vast accomplishments and how well it's all going over in Iraq.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

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Well, gee Rush, ya know you could always try to actually defend the President and try to prove how wrong our assessment is rather than just the automatic gainsaying of whatever it is we're pointing out.

Please illuminate us on his vast accomplishments and how well it's all going over in Iraq.

Way better than you or your media would have us believe.

One thing is for sure, the war will NOT be lost over there! If it is lost it will be lost here

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

What war?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[yourmomma 0]

It is a testament to the human condition that wrong doings of Bush are even debated. The fact that Clinton was a fuck up and that Kerry/Edwards would have done nothing to improve this country, DOES NOT ABSOLVE BUSH from his inability to lead, corrupt foreign and domestic policy, and a complete disregard for the checks and balances guarantee by the constitution. A democratic leader guilty of the same in/actions would be beguiled by the right as he well should be. However to place an R in front of a name and parade the person around as a false conservative is enough to placate the majority of americans who get their “news” for Rush and CNN. It is pathetic and reflects and abhor ant tendency to regurgitate the opinions of others as fact at the cost of logic and reason.

[JohnnyD 0]

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Well, gee Rush, ya know you could always try to actually defend the President and try to prove how wrong our assessment is rather than just the automatic gainsaying of whatever it is we're pointing out.

Please illuminate us on his vast accomplishments and how well it's all going over in Iraq.

Way better than you or your media would have us believe.

One thing is for sure, the war will NOT be lost over there! If it is lost it will be lost here

That's a pretty accurate list of accomplishments - none.
And if we lose (which is impossible since we won years ago) it won't be the administration's fault. Brilliant.

[billvon 3,075]

>Way better than you or your media would have us believe.

Yeah. Come on, Quade! You know the lying liberal media is trying to make us lose the war! It's really going well over there. You just have to visit to see the reality, like that courageous guy McCain did. (Although he wasn't courageous because it was really safe there.)

Take all the reports of roadside bombs. What they always fail to mention is the Iraqis jumping out from behind the buildings moments later saying "Surprise! That was just a salute to the brave men and women protecting us." But does the media tell you THAT? Nope! They always cut to commercial just before those zany insurgents jump out to announce the joke.

And all those US soldiers on trial for raping, torturing, and kidnapping people in Iraq? Another big joke! It's part of a new reality TV series where people are accused of imaginary crimes; the ones that react the most realistically win millions in fabulous prizes.

And those climbing fatality rates. Those are completely misunderstood by the media. You see, those represent the number of Al Qaeda kingpins killed - over 3500 so far! The press just wants you to THINK they're US soldiers so that their allies, Al Qaeda, can kill us all. Except the media. And the liberals. And the people who support them. Except the republicans who are against the war. And . .

(Actually no one's really sure how that works, but trust me - media = Al Qaeda, Iraq war = freedom and peace.)

And while we're on the subject, don't forget Al Qaeda! The lying media would have you believe they're stronger than ever, when in reality, not a single one of them has a working Iphone. But does the media tell you that? NO! They just report on things they blew up, as if that means anything.

[kallend 2,106]

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Well, gee Rush, ya know you could always try to actually defend the President and try to prove how wrong our assessment is rather than just the automatic gainsaying of whatever it is we're pointing out.

Please illuminate us on his vast accomplishments and how well it's all going over in Iraq.

Way better than you or your media would have us believe.

Occasionally I think that maybe you're serious, but then posts like that assure me that you are just pulling our chains.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[SpeedRacer 1]

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One thing is for sure, the war will NOT be lost over there! If it is lost it will be lost here

Please define "lost" or "won" regarding the current conflicts going on in Iraq right now.

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[jakee 1,563]

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Well, gee Rush, ya know you could always try to actually defend the President and try to prove how wrong our assessment is rather than just the automatic gainsaying of whatever it is we're pointing out.

Hello, I've come for an argument.

No you haven't.

Yes I have.

Oh no you haven't... oh by the way, did you want five minutes or the full half hour?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[millertime24 8]

>Oh no you haven't... oh by the way, did you want five minutes or the full half hour?<

Just the five minutes.

No you haven't.

Muff #5048

[billvon 3,075]

A presidential speech that I think most war supporters can get behind:

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Good evening, my fellow Americans.

Tonight I want to talk to you on a subject of deep concern to all Americans and to many people in all parts of the world - the war in Iraq.

I believe that one of the reasons for the deep division about Iraq is that many Americans have lost confidence in what their Government has told them about our policy. The American people cannot and should not be asked to support a policy which involves the overriding issues of war and peace unless they know the truth about that policy.

. . .

The war was causing deep division at home and criticism from many of our friends as well as our enemies abroad.

In view of these circumstances there were some who urged that I end the war at once by ordering the immediate withdrawal of all American forces.

From a political standpoint this would have been a popular and easy course to follow.

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For the future of peace, precipitate withdrawal would be a disaster of immense magnitude. A nation cannot remain great if it betrays its allies and lets down its friends. Our defeat and humiliation in Iraq without question would promote recklessness in the councils of those great powers who have not yet abandoned their goals of world conquest.

This would spark violence wherever our commitments help maintain the peace in the Middle East . . .eventually even in the Western Hemisphere.

Ultimately, this would cost more lives. It would not bring peace; it would bring more war.

For these reasons, I rejected the recommendation that I should end the war by immediately withdrawing all of our forces. I chose instead to change American policy on both the negotiating front and battlefront.

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Under the plan, I ordered first a substantial increase in the training and equipment of Iraqi forces.

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The Iraqis have continued to gain in strength. As a result they have been able to take over combat responsibilities from our American troops.

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We have adopted a plan which we have worked out in cooperation with the Iraqis for the complete withdrawal of all U.S. combat ground forces, and their replacement by Iraqi forces on an orderly scheduled timetable. This withdrawal will be made from strength and not from weakness. As Iraqi forces become stronger, the rate of American withdrawal can become greater.

. . .

My fellow Americans, I am sure you can recognize from what I have said that we really only have two choices open to us if we want to end this war. I can order an immediate, precipitate withdrawal of all Americans from Iraq without regard to the effects of that action.

Or we can persist in our search for a just peace. . . .through continued implementation of our plan for Iraqi takeover of the war, if necessary a plan in which we will withdraw all our forces from Iraq on a schedule in accordance with our program, as the Iraqis become strong enough to defend their own freedom.

I have chosen this second course.

It is not the easy way.

It is the right way.

It is a plan which will end the war and serve the cause of peace not just in Iraq but in the rest of the world.

In speaking of the consequences of a precipitate withdrawal, I mentioned that our allies would lose confidence in America.

Far more dangerous, we would lose confidence in ourselves. Oh, the immediate reaction would be a sense of relief that our men and women were coming home. But as we saw the consequences of what we had done, inevitable remorse and divisive recrimination would scar our spirit as a people.

. . .

In San Francisco a few weeks ago, I saw demonstrators carrying signs reading: "Lose in Iraq, bring the boys home."

Well, one of the strengths of our free society is that any American has a right to reach that conclusion and to advocate that point of view. But as President of the United States, I would be untrue to my oath of office if I allowed the policy of this Nation to be dictated by the minority who hold that point of view and who try to impose it on the Nation by mounting demonstrations in the street.

And so tonight to you, the great silent majority of my fellow Americans, I ask for your support.

[rushmc 23]

Nice profile, do you expect to be taken seriouly?

I guess you fit in this the rest on this thread

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

I see you are still posting.. THANK YOU for proving my point.

[kallend 2,106]

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A presidential speech that I think most war supporters can get behind:

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Good evening, my fellow Americans.

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Yes, but that president resigned in disgrace.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

This thread is a perfect example of the tolerance and inclusivness of the left. Along with symptoms of the disase named Bush Derangment Syndrom.

Yes, the minions of Moveon.org and Democratic Underground web sites fill thier minds with communal love and bush hatred causing a conflict the results in total lack of common sense and decency.

Fun to watch

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,544]

Sweetie, just remember all those sotto-voce exchanges among the, ahem, less liberal among us in other threads.

That whole finger-pointing things sucks. Several really DO point back at you. Not that you personally participate in all of them, but they sure do happen.

So all that means is that it's human nature, and the less you react, the shorter it'll be.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[ryoder 1,590]

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A presidential speech that I think most war supporters can get behind:

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Good evening, my fellow Americans.

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Yes, but that president resigned in disgrace.

Yes, but that was unrelated to the war. He inherited that war from an SOB who put his own pride above American lives and just couldn't bring himself to the right thing. Even Tricky Dick could see that the only solution was to accept reality and withdraw. Tricky Dick was a crook, but he wasn't a moron. That is more than can be said of the current situation.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.