Made in Dubai

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I have 5 Iraqi friends that would say otherwise

Not going native on us old chap...Hmmm?

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yes, psychologically-that is the nature of self awareness, and in this case I see what you are saying.

i was trying to re -iterate the fact that when i purchase a product from a foreign country I would like to know if i am in a way supporting a cause I am against, or an enemy agenda- before I lay my money down.


i realize that once that cash leaves my hand it may trickle through many people or organizations that I don't like or agree with.

But in this case the boxes were clearly marked DUBAI so I am just asking the question as to whether or not we are supporting an enemy cause with our purchase.

Though i have never supported the invasion of Iraq,(unlike some of my democratic candidates) I do have friends there and don't want my consumer dollars turned into roadside bombs or RPG's fired at them.

At this point from the information I have gotten here and on the net the UAE Govt. or citizens are likely just bystanders to the "terrorism" issue, and as with many societies in the east- some people like us and some hate us.

The irony is that even though i have never supported the invasion (and you can look this up in any of my posts) my tax dollars were used to fund it.

Now as far as the widespread slave labor issue I have seen no evidence to disprove that notion so far.

Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires.
D S #3.1415

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Now as far as the widespread slave labor issue I have seen no evidence to disprove that notion so far.

That is also a very delicate and somewhat subjective issue.
I live in a country where some people make $6/day working in a factory assembling motherboards. These same people made $3/day in their village raising cattle.
Some will criticize the factory owner for using "slave labor". Shutting down the factory would send the workers back home to a $3/day life. Forcing the factory to pay $6/hour would probably take it out of the market by making its products too expensive to produce, thus shutting it down and sending its employees back home to a $3/day life.
If by slave labor one means having workers chained to a table and working for free, I say shut it down.
But if by slave labor one means people working under conditions that we, Westerners, would not work under, then I think we need to take a good look at ourselves, go live for a year or two in a slum in Calcutta or Manilla, and stop sipping bourbon while giving lessons to people and cultures of which we have little or no understanding.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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It is a strong term.

and

One could say that Wal Mart is a conglomerate that takes advantage of the cheap labor forces in other countries so to buy products at Wal Mart is supporting slave labor.



not to mention that in the U.S. most of the produce we eat comes from cheap Mexican labor.

The problem is that wealthy nations such as Dubai have discovered that they can IMPORT labor from desperately impoverished parts of the world-
Since they don't have much of a desperately poor work force of their own, they can take advantage of other cultures.


And from what I have gathered once in within the borders the situation is that of a captive work force-as in; "take whatever meager terms we give you or we'll ship you back to your slum with nothing" that in my opinion is modern slavery.

Obviously the long term solution to many problems like this is education and birth control world wide but people generally don't want to talk about that.

Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires.
D S #3.1415

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I actually got to check 2 of those. Yep. Iranian Id's and documents found on both. It just not sufficient fact for you, but I actually have seen it with my own eyes.

Guess this never happened right? What part of Iranian EFP's don't you understand?

I understand that it is hard for you to see how many bombs and attacks are being made to civilian population over there, but suffice a quick search on any news site will get you that information. Of course they will all blame the US for those attacks.

Let the chairborn ranger games continue.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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I I will be staying a few nights in UAE on the way home. I hope to go snowboarding in thier indoor ski park

Peace out!

Hey mate, get yourself up to Umm Al Quwain for a jump or two! :)

To know requires proof
To believe requires evidence
To have faith requires neither.
If you stick with that, we'll never be confused again

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wealthy Nations such as Dubai .

Its good to know you know what your talking about...dont mean to piss on your chips but Dubai aint a nation, its an Emirate in the UAE. Its like saying New York is a Nation. Now that would make you laugh wouldnt it..

To know requires proof
To believe requires evidence
To have faith requires neither.
If you stick with that, we'll never be confused again

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I actually got to check 2 of those. Yep. Iranian Id's and documents found on both. It just not sufficient fact for you, but I actually have seen it with my own eyes.

Guess this never happened right? What part of Iranian EFP's don't you understand?

I understand that it is hard for you to see how many bombs and attacks are being made to civilian population over there, but suffice a quick search on any news site will get you that information. Of course they will all blame the US for those attacks.

Let the chairborn ranger games continue.

You have to understand: I don't trust the US government at all when it comes to anything having to do with Iran, or "terrorism". If you've seen it with your own eyes, great.

That having been said, the hole over there is one we dug. If the US would stop sticking her collective nose where it doesn't belong, this wouldn't be a matter we'd be involved in.

cavete terrae.

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Perfect example of the US sticking their noses in - oh and look, they are giving weapons to the UAE too! I wonder if this is so they hope a war breaks out in the future so they can come over and Bomb some more holes in the middle east..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6923430.stm

To know requires proof
To believe requires evidence
To have faith requires neither.
If you stick with that, we'll never be confused again

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Better than sticking the nose ala UK though, enslaving the population and creating messes such as palestine though.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Ok , I'm back from enjoying American airspace which for the time being is clear of enemy jets, missiles, and passenger planes carrying hikackers... does THAT piss on your chips?


now back to business.

Clearly you have mistakenly labeled me as some kind of a myopic nationalist of sorts, but thats OK, you don't know me but at least you are trying to draw me out.


I'm here to be educated about Dubai as the internet is a good source of opinions and information most of the time.

Again I choose to be wary of new consumer products on shelves my own town, and ask questions before I support a country, company or product with a purchase- yes that includes domestic products.

Unless you live in a gumdrop house on lolly pop lane you have enemies, adversaries, and other people's hidden agendas to sort out - and I just don't think it is wise to play into the hands of your enemies by unknowingly giving them money to later fuck with you.

First you have to identify them, that requires asking questions.

< perfect example of the US sticking their noses in - oh and look, they are giving weapons to the UAE too!

Yes "terrorism" and warfare has created quite a booming business for U.S. companies....how long did it take for you to figure that out?
Now you understand why it is important to question organizations, agendas, Emirates,or Nations (even your own).

Who knows what kind of convoluted shit is being generated between organizations behind closed doors, unless people wise up and ask the questions.

You accuse me of waving a broad wand of prejudice?.
Try not categorizing all Americans as ignorant,rich,empire building, war mongers and maybe we can fix these problems.

Fight the power not the people.

Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires.
D S #3.1415