no7rosman 0 #1 July 24, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sueAQB3fjqo This could possibly explain why there was no wreckage at the crash site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #2 July 24, 2007 Oh god here we go again! Quote This could possibly explain why there was no wreckage at the crash site. Pssst, there was wreckage in PA. It was in the ground. That what happens when you go straight in.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #3 July 24, 2007 troll, troll, troll your thread, gently down the web...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #4 July 24, 2007 I did not watch the vid, and am not a conspiracy type generally, but this link: http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20010913somersetp3.asp Does indicate that debris (human and otherwise) was found up to 6 miles from the crash. A plane cratering in would not scatter shit around like that. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no7rosman 0 #5 July 24, 2007 QuotePssst, there was wreckage in PA. It was in the ground. That what happens when you go straight in. I beg to differ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #6 July 24, 2007 Please go away. This bullshit is disrespectful to the victims of that crash. And it was a crash. In PA. And there was wreckage. Get a life. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #7 July 24, 2007 QuoteI beg to differ... Differ on what? they dug parts out of the ground.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no7rosman 0 #8 July 24, 2007 If you don't like it...Don't read it. It's just a debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #9 July 24, 2007 QuoteIt's just a debate It BULLSHIT! These videos have been beaten to death so many times but they keep coming back. Why do so many not believe that a plane crashed? Anyway, I'm done feeding, good day.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no7rosman 0 #10 July 24, 2007 I didn't think this one had been beat to death. It was only released 4 months ago on YouTube...And with all my searching had never seen or heard of this before.... My apologies for making everyone so mad... However it is funny more and more shit keeps coming up our great Bush Administration and Cheney. I hope you are all right!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #11 July 24, 2007 QuoteHowever it is funny more and more shit keeps coming up Yeah, it's people who want there 15 minutes of fame with there bullshit. People need to get a life. QuoteI hope you are all right!! Oh I'm fine, no worries here.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #12 July 24, 2007 Read my link. It IS odd that debris was 6 miles away. This should not hapen in a standard crash, but seems to indicate that for one reason or anohter, the plane at least partially broke up in the air. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no7rosman 0 #13 July 24, 2007 I read it...It is good and I believe it... My question is...why would a news paper in Ohio, and Mayor, etc...publish the article? And where did they get their data? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #14 July 24, 2007 Yes, it did. And all the passengers are being held prisoner in an old hanger in Area 51 - the same hanger, as a matter of fact, used to fake the moon landings. It's an outrage, I tell you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #15 July 24, 2007 missle impact damage. we shot it down, member???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 July 24, 2007 QuoteRead my link. It IS odd that debris was 6 miles away. This should not hapen in a standard crash, but seems to indicate that for one reason or anohter, the plane at least partially broke up in the air. That may be possible depending on the speed reached before impact. Edited to add; not from the crash but from break up because of exessive speed"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #17 July 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteRead my link. It IS odd that debris was 6 miles away. This should not hapen in a standard crash, but seems to indicate that for one reason or anohter, the plane at least partially broke up in the air. That may be possible depending on the speed reached before impact. Edited to add; not from the crash but from break up because of exessive speed Absolutely. But I would not rule out it having been shot down to save lives overall. And to keep it under wraps in the wake of a huge tragedy like 9/11 would not be out of the question, and even understandable. If it was shot down, I feel sorry for the pilot who had to pull the trigger. Either way, the tragedy is the same. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #18 July 24, 2007 QuoteYes, it did. And all the passengers are being held prisoner in an old hanger in Area 51 - the same hanger, as a matter of fact, used to fake the moon landings. It's an outrage, I tell you! With all the new arrivals, I wonder if Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa will have to share a cell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #19 July 24, 2007 Quote With all the new arrivals, I wonder if Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa will have to share a cell. Are you kidding? Hoffa is running the anal probe inspection station there!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #20 July 24, 2007 I watched the TV all day on 9/11. I was flipping between channels on DirecTV. I didn't have a Tivo at the time. I wish I did. I would have recorded what I was seeing and hearing. I heard one news report that an airliner had been shot down after failing to comply with fighters that had intercepted it. It was a detailed report. Not a one or two line throwaway. I heard the report once. I didn't make of note of the channel as I was surfing all over to many channels. No other reports ever turned up that I am aware of. According to the official version of the crash of flight 93, the passengers tried to take back the airplane and failed. During the struggle the airplane was forced to crash by the hijackers. When the news reports came out about the scattered debris and remains, it was clear to me that some kind of a major disconnect was occuring. A coverup? At the time, I didn't think it was possible. At this point, I wouldn't put anything past the Rescumlicans and ShrubCo. The fact remains that I heard a news report about an intercept and that the interceptors shot down the airplane when it didn't comply. The scattered debris and remains are clear proof that the official story doesn't match up with the physical evidence. There is no way that debis and remains would have ended up SIX MILES from the crater, unless catastrophic damage had occurred well prior to impact. I don't know exactly what happened. I don't expect the facts to come out until long after most of us are dead and gone, if ever. I do know that what I heard broadcast matches the physical evidence, unlike the official story. One of the creepiest parts of the TV broadcasts was the jumpers from the buildings. The spanish channel at 400 in DTV had gruesome and graphic footage of the jumpers. They were zooming in on them. I saw what HAD to be a skydiver track away from the building, go into the boxman position, then barrel roll onto their back and stay stable, looking at the sky, until they disappeared behind the buildings in the foreground of the picture. No whuffo could fly like that. This is very hard to type... I don't know who they were and I never tried to find out. It hit me hard then and it is hard to think about now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #21 July 25, 2007 QuoteI heard one news report that an airliner had been shot down after failing to comply with fighters that had intercepted it. It was a detailed report. Really? I heard a report on the news the day it happened that a corporate jet ran into WTC. They got that detail wrong. Then NBC I remember reported that a helicopter had crashed at the Pentagon because he was seeing smoke. Little did he know what was really going on. The fact is when a plane crashes take everything you hear with a grain of salt. The news gets a lot of details wrong. QuoteThe fact remains that I heard a news report about an intercept and that the interceptors shot down the airplane when it didn't comply. Who told the news reporter this? The Air Force? Where is the pilot who pulled the trigger? They kept him quiet? Quoteclear proof that the official story doesn't match up with the physical evidence. HMMMM, the big explosion and mushroom cloud over the crash sight wouldnt carry pieces of paper and some debris away from the crater impact zone? Back to the OP, that video said they landed in CLE. So which is it? Did they get blown out of the sky or land at CLE? You cannot have it both ways.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #22 July 25, 2007 >Get a life. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #23 July 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteI heard one news report that an airliner had been shot down after failing to comply with fighters that had intercepted it. It was a detailed report. Really? I heard a report on the news the day it happened that a corporate jet ran into WTC. They got that detail wrong. Then NBC I remember reported that a helicopter had crashed at the Pentagon because he was seeing smoke. Little did he know what was really going on. The fact is when a plane crashes take everything you hear with a grain of salt. The news gets a lot of details wrong. QuoteThe fact remains that I heard a news report about an intercept and that the interceptors shot down the airplane when it didn't comply. Who told the news reporter this? The Air Force? Where is the pilot who pulled the trigger? They kept him quiet? Quoteclear proof that the official story doesn't match up with the physical evidence. HMMMM, the big explosion and mushroom cloud over the crash sight wouldnt carry pieces of paper and some debris away from the crater impact zone? Back to the OP, that video said they landed in CLE. So which is it? Did they get blown out of the sky or land at CLE? You cannot have it both ways. I didn't watch the video link in the start of the thread. I don't think that the airplane landed anywhere. The majority of the wreckage ended up in the crater. Part of the wreckage ended up almost six miles away. I don't know exactly what happened. Neither do you. I agree that the news often gets things wrong. Did you click through on the link to the local paper? To save you the trouble, I'll repost the key portion of the report here - Begin quoted text >>> Finding the flight data recorder had been the focus of investigators as they widened their search area today following the discoveries of more debris, including what appeared to be human remains, miles from the point of impact at a reclaimed coal mine. Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains. Some residents said they collected bags-full of items to be turned over to investigators. Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly six miles from the immediate crash scene. Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion that signaled the crash at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday. <<< end quoted text Do you honestly believe that clothing, books, and human remains could drift six miles from the point of impact, bypassing all of the area between? I don't. Was the wind blowing the correct direction that day to support your theory? Interesting question. The news report doesn't say that there was a six mile path of debris from the point of impact to the reclaimed coal mine. It says that there was debris at the reclaimed coal mine, the lake, and nearby farms. This matches up with the national news that was broadcast at the time. I followed this story very closely. There was minimal commentary at the time regarding the different debris fields. It was covered in the news, however slightly. Feel free to believe everything the government tells you. It is a well known fact the the US government, the President, and all of the other members of government are extremely honest and have never lied about anything at any time. And I have a really nice bridge in New York City that I'll sell you real cheap... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #24 July 25, 2007 QuoteDo you honestly believe that clothing, books, and human remains could drift six miles from the point of impact, bypassing all of the area between? Where did any report say there was nothing in between? QuoteI don't. Are you NTSB? QuoteWas the wind blowing the correct direction that day to support your theory? Interesting question. My theory? I'm not the one coming up with this BS. QuoteFeel free to believe everything the government tells you. And you can feel free to believe what every twit with a computer puts up a video on You Tube as the truth. They never conclude anything. All they do is ask questions with so many open ends it would take hours to comment on them. Like when they said the plane landed in CLE. They said 200 people got off the United. Really? So you mean to tell me they have kept 200 people silent this entire time and nobody has gone to the press? Not even somebody with the airline? Ground Personal? You just go on believing that United 93 got shot down. I need a good laugh reading peoples theory on how it all happened.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #25 July 25, 2007 QuoteI didn't watch the video link in the start of the thread. I don't think that the airplane landed anywhere. The majority of the wreckage ended up in the crater. Part of the wreckage ended up almost six miles away. I don't know exactly what happened. Neither do you. I agree that the news often gets things wrong. If it were blown out of the sky, you wouldn't expect to find the majority of the plane in the crater. QuoteDo you honestly believe that clothing, books, and human remains could drift six miles from the point of impact, bypassing all of the area between? It's just as incredible to believe that an exploding plane would have debris 6 miles apart, bypassing all the area in between. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
