warpedskydiver 0 #1 August 2, 2007 Why bother kidnapping your human cargo? Just ransom a Citizen off the street Illegal Aliens Declare War on the United States By Douglas MacKinnon Wednesday, August 1, 2007 http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/DouglasMacKinnon/2007/08/01/illegal_aliens_declare_war_on_the_united_states While the current administration, as well as Democrats and Republicans in Congress, focus on the war on terror and the war in Iraq, a greater real-time threat to our way of life and the rule of law in the United States, is manifesting itself just down the road a bit from the White House and the Capitol building . In Prince William Country, Virginia, illegal aliens have just basically declared war on the county, law and order, and the very livelihood of innocent Americans. They have done so, and no one in Washington really seems to care. In the upside down world that is now our nation, these illegal aliens are outraged that the county is now trying to stem their overwhelming influx and the crushing burden their mass migration imposes on already strained county services. As hard as it may be to believe, these illegal aliens and their supporters, have become so enraged that the county is trying to uphold the law, that they have decided to attack the county on a number of levels. Just last week, thousands of illegal and legal Hispanics living in the county met to plan their response to the rule of law. Voting with raised fists, they decided to punish the county trough a boycott of non-immigrant businesses, a labor strike, and a lawsuit. Town by town, city by city, county by county, these illegal aliens and the far left lawyers that are eagerly facilitating their lawsuits, plan to chip away at the sovereignty of the United States. And as they do, many of our elected officials and leading “news” organizations, are cheerleading them on from the sidelines. Before the supporters of this illegal invasion demonize me, let me say again, that I am married to a Hispanic-American, I speak Spanish, and am not threatened one bit, by the culture. In fact, I think legal Hispanic immigrants add much to the fabric of our nation. Illegal immigration however, represents a growing threat to our nation in a number of areas. Not the least of which, being crime. As an example, the police and people of Houston, Texas, are now dealing with organized gangs of illegal aliens from Mexico who are carrying out “express kidnappings” of the local citizens. An “Express Kidnapping” being when someone is snatched off the street, driven to an ATM to drain their account, forced to have a family member bring down any money or valuables in the home as ransom, and then many times, still shot in the head and left by the side of the road. My wife’s family has fallen victim to a number of these kidnappings. “Express Kidnappings” have been perfected in Mexico City, Caracas, Venezuela, and a number of large South American cities, and are now being exported to our nation. If you have not heard of them, don’t worry, they will soon be coming to your town. In closing, the message from these illegal aliens and their supporters could not be more clear. “If you dare try to uphold the laws of your nation, state, county, or town, we will sue you, bankrupt your legal business, go on strike against you, and broaden our borders deeper into your nation. And we will do all of this with the assistance of your federal politicians, your mainstream media, and your lawyers. We will wait you out and we will win.” Win they may because no one is coming to the rescue. The federal government has abandoned us on this issue. Those politicians are selling their souls for votes that will never come. Your only hope -- our only hope -- is that state and local officials will make a principled stand against this lawless invasion. If not, the United States of America may soon become but a faint memory. Douglas MacKinnon was press secretary for former Senator Bob Dole and is the author of America's Last Days . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #2 August 2, 2007 Douglas MacKinnon? LOL, a kook and a scam artist."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #3 August 2, 2007 QuoteDouglas MacKinnon? LOL, a kook and a scam artist. Illegal immigrants are just that...ILLEGAL. PERIOD. They should all be inprisoned, because the minute they stepped foot on our soil, they became crimialns. Criminals break laws, and its illegal for these low lifes to be here. I cant believe this is even a topic. This iseven an issua? THEY ARE ILLEGAL.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #4 August 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteDouglas MacKinnon? LOL, a kook and a scam artist. Illegal immigrants are just that...ILLEGAL. PERIOD. They should all be inprisoned, because the minute they stepped foot on our soil, they became crimialns. Criminals break laws, and its illegal for these low lifes to be here. I cant believe this is even a topic. This iseven an issua? THEY ARE ILLEGAL. Oh, I fully agree that an illegal is breaking the law. I am not exactly sure how they should be punished. Some believe that they should be given lengthy prison terms. That in itself would be a major drain on our taxes. Now, if they were to commit a crime other than merely being here illegally, picking the fruit you eat or the vegatables you put in your salad. Then, of course, prison is inline for the crimes committed (burglary, rape, child abuse...). However, Mackinnons platform is paranoia. Not saying that all that he writes is wrong, only that he goes beyond extreme and lumps every person of a race together. I do agree 100% with the piece he wrote concerning Don Imus as well as a few other articles he has written. For the most, however, he goes to an extreme which provokes racism in certian people."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #5 August 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteDouglas MacKinnon? LOL, a kook and a scam artist. Illegal immigrants are just that...ILLEGAL. PERIOD. They should all be inprisoned, because the minute they stepped foot on our soil, they became crimialns. Criminals break laws, and its illegal for these low lifes to be here. I cant believe this is even a topic. This iseven an issua? THEY ARE ILLEGAL. QuoteI am not exactly sure how they should be punished. . They need to be sent back to their countries. Imprisning them here will cost us more money. They are ILLEGAL. There shouldnt even be a discussion about this.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #6 August 2, 2007 QuoteThey need to be sent back to their countries. Imprisning them here will cost us more money. They are ILLEGAL. There shouldnt even be a discussion about this. And... we do that, already. Problem is, once they've been here and know that they can get work, they will quickly be back. I like Bush's idea of the guest worker program. If it could realisticly be implemented, it would greatly cut down the number of illegals. If you believe that there should be no discussion on the matter and wish to only scream about them being illegal then nothing will ever be done and they will continue to illegally cross our borders. After re-reading Mackinnons piece, I do see where he is coming from and do agree on certian points. Another piece concerning this issue; http://www.timescommunity.com/site/tab2.cfm?newsid=18597166&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=506066&rfi=6"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites azdiver 0 #7 August 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteThey need to be sent back to their countries. Imprisning them here will cost us more money. They are ILLEGAL. There shouldnt even be a discussion about this. And... we do that, already. Problem is, once they've been here and know that they can get work, they will quickly be back. I like Bush's idea of the guest worker program. If it could realisticly be implemented, it would greatly cut down the number of illegals. If you believe that there should be no discussion on the matter and wish to only scream about them being illegal then nothing will ever be done and they will continue to illegally cross our borders. After re-reading Mackinnons piece, I do see where he is coming from and do agree on certian points.every time some one tries to find a way to send them back all the lefties and lawyers start screaming bloody murder about it, sherrife joe is constantly being bashed by the illegal supporters, every time he tries to uphold the law their out in force crying about it. thank god id doesnt stop him though or Phoenix would be part of mexicolight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #8 August 2, 2007 I do not think that a reasonable solution will ever be found to satisfy everyone. So far, as I can tell, Bush had the right idea with the guest worker program. I think that it would be a start and would evolve into something that most people could live with."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #9 August 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteDouglas MacKinnon? LOL, a kook and a scam artist. Illegal immigrants are just that...ILLEGAL. . Ha - you stole that idea from George Bush, didn't you? "Those who enter the country illegally are breaking the law", GWB, 11/28/2005 Doh!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Frenchy68 0 #10 August 2, 2007 Quote thank god id doesnt stop him though or Phoenix would be part of mexico You make it sound like that would be a bad thing. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georgerussia 0 #11 August 3, 2007 Quote They need to be sent back to their countries. Some people don't even know that this is the most difficult thing. First, to send someone back to their country you need to know what their country is, and be able to prove it to the country officials. This is close to impossible if the person has no documents in posession - even if the person cooperates with the investigators, and doesn't just say that he is Sherlock Holmes from England. Second, to depart someone there should be an immigration hearing in the immigration court (you could have one with USCIS, but you could appeal), in front of a judge. And the person needs a (free) lawyer and, in most cases, interpreter. This costs money, the immigration courts are overcrowded, and the person is in prison, getting free food, room and healthcare. There are other problems, also related with money, but those two are most important.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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freethefly 6 #6 August 2, 2007 QuoteThey need to be sent back to their countries. Imprisning them here will cost us more money. They are ILLEGAL. There shouldnt even be a discussion about this. And... we do that, already. Problem is, once they've been here and know that they can get work, they will quickly be back. I like Bush's idea of the guest worker program. If it could realisticly be implemented, it would greatly cut down the number of illegals. If you believe that there should be no discussion on the matter and wish to only scream about them being illegal then nothing will ever be done and they will continue to illegally cross our borders. After re-reading Mackinnons piece, I do see where he is coming from and do agree on certian points. Another piece concerning this issue; http://www.timescommunity.com/site/tab2.cfm?newsid=18597166&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=506066&rfi=6"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #7 August 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteThey need to be sent back to their countries. Imprisning them here will cost us more money. They are ILLEGAL. There shouldnt even be a discussion about this. And... we do that, already. Problem is, once they've been here and know that they can get work, they will quickly be back. I like Bush's idea of the guest worker program. If it could realisticly be implemented, it would greatly cut down the number of illegals. If you believe that there should be no discussion on the matter and wish to only scream about them being illegal then nothing will ever be done and they will continue to illegally cross our borders. After re-reading Mackinnons piece, I do see where he is coming from and do agree on certian points.every time some one tries to find a way to send them back all the lefties and lawyers start screaming bloody murder about it, sherrife joe is constantly being bashed by the illegal supporters, every time he tries to uphold the law their out in force crying about it. thank god id doesnt stop him though or Phoenix would be part of mexicolight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #8 August 2, 2007 I do not think that a reasonable solution will ever be found to satisfy everyone. So far, as I can tell, Bush had the right idea with the guest worker program. I think that it would be a start and would evolve into something that most people could live with."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #9 August 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteDouglas MacKinnon? LOL, a kook and a scam artist. Illegal immigrants are just that...ILLEGAL. . Ha - you stole that idea from George Bush, didn't you? "Those who enter the country illegally are breaking the law", GWB, 11/28/2005 Doh!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #10 August 2, 2007 Quote thank god id doesnt stop him though or Phoenix would be part of mexico You make it sound like that would be a bad thing. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #11 August 3, 2007 Quote They need to be sent back to their countries. Some people don't even know that this is the most difficult thing. First, to send someone back to their country you need to know what their country is, and be able to prove it to the country officials. This is close to impossible if the person has no documents in posession - even if the person cooperates with the investigators, and doesn't just say that he is Sherlock Holmes from England. Second, to depart someone there should be an immigration hearing in the immigration court (you could have one with USCIS, but you could appeal), in front of a judge. And the person needs a (free) lawyer and, in most cases, interpreter. This costs money, the immigration courts are overcrowded, and the person is in prison, getting free food, room and healthcare. There are other problems, also related with money, but those two are most important.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
