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Yep, there has actually been some good news from Iraq this week.
Sunni sheiks are allying with US troops in the Anbar province to fight against the common enemy, Al Quaida in Iraq.

Good news!:)



And if I remember correctly many Senators stated that Anbar was not winnable. Well, that must be it then :S
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20594604/
even better news right?

I expect that Gen. David H. Petraeus will issue a report that is somewhat skewed in the military's favor, i.e. I doubt he will flaunt the failures, he might lose his job if he paints a bleak picture.

But if the news over there is as good as they say, then how is it:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3549367
??

What we DO KNOW FOR SURE is:
- The war is not over and likely will not be over for years to come
- Violence is still prevalent throughout Iraq
- We have been in it longer than WWII
- I have seen NO indicator that terrorism is on the decline anywhere in the world (i.e. recent German events)

Therefore I, for one, do not feel any safer or for that matter less safe, than I did before 9/11.

But we have spent more than $400B and will easily go past $600B even if we pulled out tomorrow.

And there are thousands of dead people, a country in a mess and no end in sight. WAY TO GO!!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3561502

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Katie Couric Reports Improvements in Iraq

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:32 PM

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CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric says she has seen dramatic improvements in Iraq, according to a CBS report.



"We hear so much about things going bad, but real progress has been made there in terms of security and stability," Couric said. "I mean, obviously, infrastructure problems abound, but Sunnis and U.S. forces are working together. They banded together because they had a common enemy: al Qaeda."



Couric traveled to the city of Fallujah in Anbar province – at one time a violence epicenter. Now Fallujah is "considered a real role model of something working right in Iraq," Couric said.




Many more Iraqis have joined the Iraqi Security Forces in the overwhelmingly Sunni Anbar province. "The spike in police has really been significant," Couric said. "The incidents in Iraq have gone down dramatically."



But while security and stability have improved in Iraq, basic services remain in disrepair, Couric noted. "I think everyone I talk to agrees that restoring basic services is really an imperative step in bringing stability and some kind of sense of society to Iraq.”


© 2007 NewsMax. All rights reserved



Well, if Couric reported this news, then it must be true!:S
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Katie Couric Reports Improvements in Iraq

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:32 PM

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CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric says she has seen dramatic improvements in Iraq, according to a CBS report.



"We hear so much about things going bad, but real progress has been made there in terms of security and stability," Couric said. "I mean, obviously, infrastructure problems abound, but Sunnis and U.S. forces are working together. They banded together because they had a common enemy: al Qaeda."



Couric traveled to the city of Fallujah in Anbar province – at one time a violence epicenter. Now Fallujah is "considered a real role model of something working right in Iraq," Couric said.




Many more Iraqis have joined the Iraqi Security Forces in the overwhelmingly Sunni Anbar province. "The spike in police has really been significant," Couric said. "The incidents in Iraq have gone down dramatically."



But while security and stability have improved in Iraq, basic services remain in disrepair, Couric noted. "I think everyone I talk to agrees that restoring basic services is really an imperative step in bringing stability and some kind of sense of society to Iraq.”


© 2007 NewsMax. All rights reserved



Well, if Couric NewsMax reported this news, then it must be true!:S


Fixed.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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Katie Couric Reports Improvements in Iraq

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:32 PM

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CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric says she has seen dramatic improvements in Iraq, according to a CBS report.



"We hear so much about things going bad, but real progress has been made there in terms of security and stability," Couric said. "I mean, obviously, infrastructure problems abound, but Sunnis and U.S. forces are working together. They banded together because they had a common enemy: al Qaeda."



Couric traveled to the city of Fallujah in Anbar province – at one time a violence epicenter. Now Fallujah is "considered a real role model of something working right in Iraq," Couric said.




Many more Iraqis have joined the Iraqi Security Forces in the overwhelmingly Sunni Anbar province. "The spike in police has really been significant," Couric said. "The incidents in Iraq have gone down dramatically."



But while security and stability have improved in Iraq, basic services remain in disrepair, Couric noted. "I think everyone I talk to agrees that restoring basic services is really an imperative step in bringing stability and some kind of sense of society to Iraq.”


© 2007 NewsMax. All rights reserved



Well, if Couric reported this news, then it must be true!:S


At least you caught the irony of me posting this:P:D:D
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Katie Couric Reports Improvements in Iraq

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:32 PM

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CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric says she has seen dramatic improvements in Iraq, according to a CBS report.



"We hear so much about things going bad, but real progress has been made there in terms of security and stability," Couric said. "I mean, obviously, infrastructure problems abound, but Sunnis and U.S. forces are working together. They banded together because they had a common enemy: al Qaeda."



Couric traveled to the city of Fallujah in Anbar province – at one time a violence epicenter. Now Fallujah is "considered a real role model of something working right in Iraq," Couric said.




Many more Iraqis have joined the Iraqi Security Forces in the overwhelmingly Sunni Anbar province. "The spike in police has really been significant," Couric said. "The incidents in Iraq have gone down dramatically."



But while security and stability have improved in Iraq, basic services remain in disrepair, Couric noted. "I think everyone I talk to agrees that restoring basic services is really an imperative step in bringing stability and some kind of sense of society to Iraq.”


© 2007 NewsMax. All rights reserved



Well, if Couric NewsMax reported this news, then it must be true!:S


Fixed.


So, since this was reported on NewsMax Couric must not have said any of these things:D:D

Or maybe because CBS, NBC and ABC are so anti Bush they will not report what she said:o:D
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Or maybe because CBS, NBC and ABC are so anti Bush they will not report what she said



She did report it on CBS. I watched it. I take it, you did not.


Why in hell would anybody watch the most biased lieing network on TV? You know, the one that is still defending fordged documents?:S
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Or maybe because CBS, NBC and ABC are so anti Bush they will not report what she said



She did report it on CBS. I watched it. I take it, you did not.


Why in hell would anybody watch the most biased lieing network on TV? You know, the one that is still defending fordged documents?:S


You're the one who used one of their employees to prove a point. I guess CBS is good enough for you!
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>Why in hell would anybody watch the most biased lieing network on TV?

The same reason you JUST QUOTED the "most biased lieing network on TV" I imagine.

But if you claim they are always lying, then Couric must have been lying too. So I guess your claim is invalidated.

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>Why in hell would anybody watch the most biased lieing network on TV?

The same reason you JUST QUOTED the "most biased lieing network on TV" I imagine.

But if you claim they are always lying, then Couric must have been lying too. So I guess your claim is invalidated.



:D:D:D

I made no claim Bill, if you put it in the context of the thread above:D:D

whoosh
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Or maybe because CBS, NBC and ABC are so anti Bush they will not report what she said



She did report it on CBS. I watched it. I take it, you did not.


Why in hell would anybody watch the most biased lieing network on TV? You know, the one that is still defending fordged documents?:S


You're the one who used one of their employees to prove a point. I guess CBS is good enough for you!


Have you read this thread???:D:D:D

whoosh:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Come on Bill! I used NewMax, Curic and CBS. TO MAKE A POINT??? On this site??? Doesnt that send off flares for you when posted by me??
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>I made no claim Bill . . .

Fair enough! So the Couric bit you posted is meaningless. Next!



Only if what she says is meaningless to you!:D
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Is this 3rd garde again?

Am not!

Yes you are!

Am not!

yes you are!

:S




:D:D

Whats the matter? Dont like gettin got??:D:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>Only if what she says is meaningless to you!

Why wouldn't it be? It comes from "the most biased lieing network on TV." Unless you would like to flipflop again, of course!



Wow, you are desperate tonight.
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>Only if what she says is meaningless to you!

Why wouldn't it be? It comes from "the most biased lieing network on TV." Unless you would like to flipflop again, of course!



Wow, you are desperate tonight.


In your dreams!:D
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Dont like gettin got??



You have used so many sources in the past trying to shore up your position, why wouldnt we think you were serious? Its easy to call it a joke after the fact.

But yeah, you must have got me. The death of so many innocent civilians and millitary personnel is just a game aint it?
Remster

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