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Dozens died in Syrian-Iranian chemical weapons experiment

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'Dozens died in Syrian-Iranian chemical weapons experiment'

By JPOST.COM STAFF

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Proof of cooperation between Iran and Syria in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was brought to light Monday in a Jane's Magazine report that dozens of Iranian engineers and 15 Syrian officers were killed in a July 23 accident in Syria.

According to the report, cited by Channel 10, the joint Syrian-Iranian team was attempting to mount a chemical warhead on a scud missile when the explosion occurred, spreading lethal chemical agents, including sarin nerve gas and VX gas.

The factory was created specifically for the purposes of altering ballistic missiles to carry chemical payloads, the magazine report claimed.

Reports of the accident were circulated at the time, however, no details were released by the Syrian government, and there were no hints of an Iranian connection.

The report comes on the heels of criticism leveled by the Syrains at the United States, accusing it of spreading "false" claims of Syrian nuclear activity and cooperation with North Korea to excuse an alleged Israeli air incursion over the country this month.

According to Global Security.org, Syria is not a signatory of either the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), - an international agreement banning the production, stockpiling or use of chemical weapons, or the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (CTBT).

Syria began developing chemical weapons in 1973, just before the Yom Kipper War. Global Security.org cites the country as having one of the most advanced chemical weapons programs in the Middle East.

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The good ol USA still has huge stockpiles of Chemical weapons, promised to be rid of them all by earlier this year, and the Pentagon recently decided that it will have to wait until 2023 before they are all gone.

Does it really surprise anyone that other countries have chemical weapons too?

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It surprises me that you can't see the difference between mere possession, and the threatened intent to use them.

If you have an armed police officer living next door to you, you probably aren't worried about his gun. In fact, you may even feel more secure having him there.

But if your neighbor is a lunatic that has threatened to kill you, I think you would be quite alarmed to discover that he's armed.

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The leader of our country is a lunatic who lied so he could invade Iraq. He threatened that he would invade if they did not disarm. Apparently they did, or they never had the weapons int he first place.

'nuff said

The INTENT TO USE as you call is is well versed in American History. Cluster bombs, land mines, the nukes in Japan.

We have a detailed history of using the weapons that we build.

If you want to convince the rest of the world to disarm, then LEAD THE WAY.

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>But if your neighbor is a lunatic that has threatened to kill you, I think
>you would be quite alarmed to discover that he's armed.

True! Now imagine that you discovered that someone else (who wants you dead) armed him, told him when you'd be home, and told him where you kept your guns? Think you might be mad at that person as well?

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The leader of our country is a lunatic blah blah blah...



So I guess you're okay with terrorist nations having weapons of mass destruction?

And if America disarms, you believe that all of our enemies will follow suit and live in peace, rather than take advantage of our helplessness?

It must be horrible for you living here in this evil country, when you could be back home in peaceable Canada.

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It must be horrible for you living here in this evil country, when you could be back home in peaceable Canada.




That’s right John Love it or leave it. Don’t ever questions any thing just follow or else you must be a traitor.

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Does it really surprise anyone that other countries have chemical weapons too?



It surprises me that you can't see the difference between mere possession, and the threatened intent to use them.



I don't see weapons development as threatened intent to use, John. The difference between the US and Syria is that we figured out how to mount payloads on our rockets decades ago.

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The leader of our country is a lunatic who lied so he could invade Iraq. He threatened that he would invade if they did not disarm. Apparently they did, or they never had the weapons int he first place.

'nuff said

The INTENT TO USE as you call is is well versed in American History. Cluster bombs, land mines, the nukes in Japan.

We have a detailed history of using the weapons that we build.

If you want to convince the rest of the world to disarm, then LEAD THE WAY.



Don't forget about Agent Orange in Vietnam. Millions of gallons of chemicals used there!!
2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

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Does it really surprise anyone that other countries have chemical weapons too?



It surprises me that you can't see the difference between mere possession, and the threatened intent to use them.

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Why do you carry a gun if you have no intention of using it if threatened?

Why does the USA have a huge nuclear arsenal if it has no intention of using it?

What an absurd argument you make.
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The leader of our country is a lunatic blah blah blah...

So I guess you're okay with terrorist nations having weapons of mass destruction?

And if America disarms, you believe that all of our enemies will follow suit and live in peace, rather than take advantage of our helplessness?

It must be horrible for you living here in this evil country, when you could be back home in peaceable Canada.



I never suggested we stay 'helpless' nor did I suggest we completely disarm.

What I said is what I said - we cannot expect others to disarm, call them 'bad' when we are doing the same things that they are.

Everyone judges themselves by their intentions - others with judge you by your actions.

When Iran becomes a 'terrorist nation', then we will see. Right now, I see a country threatened by the USA since we just invaded their neighbor based on a lie, and now are threatening to do the same to them. If I was Iran, I would be arming up too.

The difference is that they are willing to die for their cause. Scary and real. Maybe backing down might reduce the threat. Afterall, attacking Iraq apparently has not reduced our threat any. There are more terrorists than ever before.

I expect Iran just want to be left alone - and I also expect that will not happen since we want their oil.

"Disarm or else" - where have we heard THAT before.....?

As far as going back to Canada, the nice thing is, I actually have the choice - you do not,

And I will at least be able to negate YOUR vote(s) in the next election.

TK

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The leader of our country is a lunatic blah blah blah...



So I guess you're okay with terrorist nations having weapons of mass destruction?



USA supported Mujahadeen terrorists in Afghanistan.

USA supported Contra terrorists in Nicaragua.

USA helped overthrow democratically elected government in Chile.

IRA leaders entertained by US political leaders in Washington DC.

USA turned blind eye to decades of IRA fund raising in US.

USA possesses weapons of mass destruction.

USA invaded Panama.

USA invaded Grenada.

USA invaded Iraq.

How many nations has Iran invaded or occupied recently?
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USA supported Mujahadeen terrorists in Afghanistan.

USA supported Contra terrorists in Nicaragua.

USA helped overthrow democratically elected government in Chile.

IRA leaders entertained by US political leaders in Washington DC.

USA turned blind eye to decades of IRA fund raising in US.

USA possesses weapons of mass destruction.

USA invaded Panama.

USA invaded Grenada.

USA invaded Iraq.

How many nations has Iran invaded or occupied recently?




In the late 1950s the CIA helped oust the democratically elected Government of Guatamala to secure the supply of cheap bananas to US through the United Fruit Company, fostering the expression of a 'banana republic'.
2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do.

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The damage that the Bush administration has done is ir-repairable. We can go on for days over the atrocities that the US has committed. WE could go on for days about the international laws the US has broken. The Bush administration has destroyed this country. We are on the verge of financial collapse. We are involved in a more expensive version of Vietnam. Our rights have been stripped from us. Its really very depressing.

Here's the analogy :

The big bully at school has bullied many of the kids for years now. The kids are fed up with it and work together to get the bully back one day. The bully is the US, the kids are the small persecuted countries around the world that the US has used like pawns. Very soon there will be an uprising.

Unfortunately, the innocent citizens of the US will have to suffer for the acts of their administration.


- - i was sent here to disturb the peace - -

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The leader of our country is a lunatic who lied so he could invade Iraq. This is a bull shit statement you NEED to believe He threatened that he would invade if they did not disarm. aling with the UN and all of your favorite polititions Apparently they did, or they never had the weapons int he first place. Ah, SH USED them once to kill thousands

'nuff saidYa, you are needing to do more research

The INTENT TO USE as you call is is well versed in American History. Cluster bombs, land mines, the nukes in Japan.

We have a detailed history of using the weapons that we build. For what reason?

If you want to convince the rest of the world to disarm, then LEAD THE WAY.

Dont fuck with us and you will live. That is leading the way quite nicley thank you
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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USA supported Mujahadeen terrorists in Afghanistan.

USA supported Contra terrorists in Nicaragua.

USA helped overthrow democratically elected government in Chile.

IRA leaders entertained by US political leaders in Washington DC.

USA turned blind eye to decades of IRA fund raising in US.

USA possesses weapons of mass destruction.

USA invaded Panama.

USA invaded Grenada.

USA invaded Iraq.

How many nations has Iran invaded or occupied recently?




In the late 1950s the CIA helped oust the democratically elected Government of Guatamala to secure the supply of cheap bananas to US through the United Fruit Company, fostering the expression of a 'banana republic'.



Indeed. From the CIA's own web site:

In the late Cold War period and since, however, the American overthrow of the Arbenz government came to be widely seen as shameful. This is mostly because the governments that followed the 1954 coup in the subsequent five decades were far more repressive than Arbenz's elective government. Even intelligence scholar Christopher Andrew, an Eisenhower admirer, describes the Guatemala affair as a "disreputable moment"--Eisenhower was "directly responsible" for "death and destruction," yet showed no signs of embarrassment then or later over his "bullying of a banana republic." A culminating moment in the evolving historical memory of the United States and Guatemala in 1954 came in 1999, when President Clinton visited Guatemala and said, "Support for military forces and intelligence units which engaged in violence and widespread repression was wrong, and the United States must not repeat that mistake."

Aside from morality, there were other unfortunate legacies of the Guatemalan "success:" Allen Dulles used it as a model in advising President Kennedy seven years later to pursue the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. Also, since the early Eisenhower-Dulles period, the CIA has had a vastly exaggerated reputation worldwide for causing all sorts of havoc.


I agree with JohnRich. A country so meddlesome in the affairs of others as that, should not be allowed WMDs.
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>Ah, SH USED them once to kill thousands

Right, and we supported him when he did it. Heck, we sold him the ingredients and the helicopters. Then we demanded he disarm - and he did.

Of course, we also killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians with our own WMD's, but that's OK because God is on our side.

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Dont fuck with us and you will live. That is leading the way quite nicley thank you



I think you mean "don't respond to us fucking with you and you will live". AKA "Biggie up or die, bitch" diplomacy.



I meant exactly what I said. Sorry if that is too clear for you to understand
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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