warpedskydiver 0 #1 September 28, 2007 http://blogsforfredthompson.com/fred-thompsons-speech-nra-9-21-07 give him a listen, it won't kill you, in fact you will like what he has to say. I know this is an NRA conference, but it is a great chance to see him and hear what he has to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #2 September 28, 2007 I like him but I don’t like some of his ideas. I don’t like how he has already picked his side on abortion issues. I am not sure of my own position on the issue it being weather abortion is right or wrong or when it is right or wrong or any of that. One thing I do believe in is that a woman should be allowed to choose. What I also don’t like is he strikes me as the type of guy (we have bunch of them on dz.com as well) that there love for there country clouds their judgement and the interpretation of facts. I truly believe we need to reexamine the way we have been doing things. Not just the past 8 years but perhaps the past 50 or more. Stating that we have spilled more blood for other people’s freedoms then any other nation is a gross oversimplification of why we are being criticized in today’s world.IMHOI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #3 September 28, 2007 what the heck i was just replying to your reply and it is goon???????????????????????????? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #4 September 28, 2007 Quotehttp://blogsforfredthompson.com/fred-thompsons-speech-nra-9-21-07 give him a listen, it won't kill you, in fact you will like what he has to say. I know this is an NRA conference, but it is a great chance to see him and hear what he has to say. Well, at least he can act presidential, unlike the incumbent.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 September 28, 2007 Fred Thompson is the last person I want to see become the next prez. That's all we need is another prez endorsed and controlled by the right wing Christian neo-cons. Didn't America learn anything from these last 7 years? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 September 28, 2007 Quote Well, at least he can act presidential, unlike the incumbent. "Is our children learning?" - GWB ... ROFLMAO Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #7 September 28, 2007 >That's all we need is another prez endorsed and controlled by the right >wing Christian neo-cons. Unfortunately I think he is the only republican candidate that republicans will be willing to elect. He's been on the TV on a popular show. >Didn't America learn anything from these last 7 years? Easy question! Of course not. Republicans will still blame democrats for everything that has gone wrong and take credit for everything that has gone right (and vice versa.) "Make the other guy change; we're the good guys here." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #8 September 28, 2007 Quote Didn't America learn anything from these last 7 years? Yea, they learned, at least in Texas, that it's "one finger, one vote". Check this out. Sad. http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=eG6X-xtVask Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #9 September 28, 2007 Quote Republicans will still blame democrats for everything that has gone wrong and take credit for everything that has gone right That would explain Bush's abysmally low numbers and the '06 election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #10 September 28, 2007 Quote Quote Didn't America learn anything from these last 7 years? Yea, they learned, at least in Texas, that it's "one finger, one vote". Check this out. Sad. http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=eG6X-xtVask Fascinating. Pushing legislation to prevent voter fraud, all the while breaking their own voting rules.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #11 September 28, 2007 I like his position on keeping an armed citizenry. I like what he says about returning power to the states, but don't believe it. I disagree with his apparent desire to use "family values" as an excuse to inject more religion into our government. I will not be voting for him. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #12 September 28, 2007 Quotehttp://blogsforfredthompson.com/fred-thompsons-speech-nra-9-21-07 give him a listen, it won't kill you, in fact you will like what he has to say. I know this is an NRA conference, but it is a great chance to see him and hear what he has to say. Elect another actor/puppet so the real powers can run the white house again? Pass, thanks.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #13 September 28, 2007 Well, let's hope he's not a complete cunt like the present one. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 September 29, 2007 I'm already supporting him. I like what he has to say also. There are some areas I'm not on the same page as him on, but I don't like how Guliani and Romney keep pounding on their own resumes to make their points all the time. Nearly every issue gets addressed with, "When I was Mayor/Governor..." instead of simply bringing their ideas to the front, and letting those stand on their own merits, using the experience "button" when the idea needs to be expanded upon or provide a context. When I see clips from these "debates", I feel like I'm watching a bunch of door-to-door salesmen. I hope that Thompson will not play that game until much later and closer to choosing a candidate. That would be quite the distinction indeed.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #15 October 10, 2007 "The government is spending money of future generations and those yet to be born... We are spending money we don't have." Fred Thompson, 10/9/2007 Well, he got that right.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #16 October 10, 2007 Quote"The government is spending money of future generations and those yet to be born... We are spending money we don't have." Fred Thompson, 10/9/2007 Well, he got that right. Yea, but the follow up statement gave me the impression that he's only interested in cutting domestic spending on entitlement programs. He's still pro war so the quote above means he's offering a slightly modified continuation of what we have now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 October 10, 2007 QuoteQuote"The government is spending money of future generations and those yet to be born... We are spending money we don't have." Fred Thompson, 10/9/2007 Well, he got that right. Yea, but the follow up statement gave me the impression that he's only interested in cutting domestic spending on entitlement programs. He's still pro war so the quote above means he's offering a slightly modified continuation of what we have now. So he's right, but he's not taking it far enough. Any cutting is good cutting. Just get him to reduce military spending from offense to defense and that helps some in addition to huge cuts in entitlement. The quote is still good. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndh1 0 #18 October 10, 2007 I don't think he will be "endorsed and controlled by the right wing Christian neo-cons" any more than I honestly think Hillary would completely cave to the left-equivalent if she were elected. It seems easy to say what you would do when pandering for a group's vote (keep in mind how royally pissed the left is that after the Congressional turnover, we are not already out of Iraq?) because it's much harder when the rubber meets the road. They are all guilty of that - hence the reason I will not ever again make abortion the commanding issue when voting for President. I like Thompson, and will vote for him if he runs. When I hear something stated about "family values," I try to not hold it against as a negative, because I know some lesbians who will tell you that they and their two children are all for "family values" too. I am not going to let someone else control the definition of the word for the sake of pandering politics. I don't like Hillary, but Obama as President literally scares the shit out of me; Edwards, I cannot watch, and I am ashamed to admit I cannot get past the Mormon thing with Romney, but I think that's something I could learn to live with. I was talking with two senior black ladies at my gym about it last week - I told them the aforementioned statement. They laughed and said that I just don't want a woman or a black for President (joking of course). I told them au contraire, because if I could personally pick the next President of the United States, it would be Condoleeza Rice. Imagine my surprise when they both said "...but I think she's a gay..." I told them Hate is Not a Family Value. Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #19 October 10, 2007 QuoteHate is Not a Family Value. That needed repeating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #20 October 10, 2007 Quote So he's right, but he's not taking it far enough. Any cutting is good cutting. Just get him to reduce military spending from offense to defense and that helps some in addition to huge cuts in entitlement. The quote is still good. Agreed, it's a good quote. I'm with you on most of this. But my method of cutting the spending starts with identifying the waste and fraud and ripping that out. (One more reason I wish Perot was invited to the debates) I very much dislike the idea of cutting the meat out of our domestic programs that actually help our citizens without cutting out the fat first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #21 October 10, 2007 Quote if I could personally pick the next President of the United States, it would be Condoleeza Rice. Great choice Fred Thompson is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. So is Hillary, so is Giuliani, Romney, Obama, Richardson, Edwards, etc. Therefore, a vote for Thompson = a vote for Obama = a vote for Giuliani = a vote for Hillary = a vote for Edwards = a vote for Romney. They're all steered by the same agenda, which is unending war to line the pockets of the ultra-rich, and further burdening of the middle class to pay off an ever-increasing national debt (and of course, to line the pockets of the ultra-rich). Not to mention that constitutional rights and national sovereignty will continue to erode under any of the abovementioned candidates. I hope Americans will one day wake up and realize that no mainstream candidates in any presidential election have the interest of the people of the US in mind. *They are all puppets, with no real ideas of their own.* I'm convinced that the only hope for any real balance in our government is Ron Paul. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #22 October 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteHate is Not a Family Value. That needed repeating. No, but it is part and parcel to the freedoms guaranteed us. I don't have to like someone. I can hate them, but as long as I do them no harm, I have right to my own thoughts, and their expression.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 October 10, 2007 Not to mention that constitutional rights and national sovereignty will continue to erode under any of the abovementioned candidates. Quote Please do tell how Thompson is going to erode our rights, review his record, his current opinions, answers given up questioning, and get back to the rest of us. What you will find is consistant performance, and unyielding respect for the constitution, heck Thompson has done the job required of him even when it was in his personal interest to do the opposite. So do I think Fred is perfect? no Do I think he is the best candidate to be our next president, hell yes. I have been amongat those who nearly harrassed the man, just to get him to run. Before people nagged him ad nauseum, he finally decided he would run. Becoming POTUS can only do one thing for Fred, it will be a major pain in his ass, and do nothing for his personal life or ambitions, he just did not need to be president . Every other person running for president is doing it for themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #24 October 10, 2007 Quote Do I think he is the best candidate to be our next president, hell yes. I just went to his website to read up on his views on the issues. First up, foreign policy. After reading that I made up my mind. No way. He's spouting the "Iraq is the central front" crap and his first priorities are to increase the size of the military and a missile defense system. He'll just be more of the same, but with better spelling and stage presence. edited to add: I must say that I DO agree with his first bullet on his budget plan. "Opening the government’s fiscal books on this looming crisis for all to see and understand." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stumpy 284 #25 October 10, 2007 Quote I don't like Hillary, but Obama as President literally scares the shit out of me For someone who doesn't know much about american politics - what is scary about obama - what does he stand for? I saw him on TV the other night and my friends comment was "he seems a bit smarter than the current one!" Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
idrankwhat 0 #24 October 10, 2007 Quote Do I think he is the best candidate to be our next president, hell yes. I just went to his website to read up on his views on the issues. First up, foreign policy. After reading that I made up my mind. No way. He's spouting the "Iraq is the central front" crap and his first priorities are to increase the size of the military and a missile defense system. He'll just be more of the same, but with better spelling and stage presence. edited to add: I must say that I DO agree with his first bullet on his budget plan. "Opening the government’s fiscal books on this looming crisis for all to see and understand." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #25 October 10, 2007 Quote I don't like Hillary, but Obama as President literally scares the shit out of me For someone who doesn't know much about american politics - what is scary about obama - what does he stand for? I saw him on TV the other night and my friends comment was "he seems a bit smarter than the current one!" Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites