idrankwhat 0 #51 October 10, 2007 Quote I wouldn't count Hillary out yet. I'll probably vot5e for Edwards in the primaries, but if Hillary's the candidate I'll vote for her later. Not voting for ANY Republican, I'll tell you that right now, not if they ran Jesus himself. They wouldn't nominate him. He's too much of a lib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #52 October 10, 2007 QuoteNot voting for ANY Republican, I'll tell you that right now, not if they ran Jesus himself. Have you read about Ron Paul? You might want to look into him...he's a better candidate than Jesus ever would be. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #53 October 10, 2007 All this fawning over Ron Paul is starting to look a lot like the cult-like, "he's our savior" type following Howard Dean had back in '03. Hope he fares better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #54 October 10, 2007 QuoteAll this fawning over Ron Paul is starting to look a lot like the cult-like, "he's our savior" type following Howard Dean had back in '03. Hope he fares better. Sadly, "savior" is not the right word. "Possibly the least lousy choice" is probably more appropriate. Regardless, it was good to hear him making some sense again last night. I wasn't particularly impressed with Thompson but I also didn't watch all of it. But I did watch enough to wonder why Rudy's in the lead. What a tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #55 October 10, 2007 QuoteAll this fawning over Ron Paul is starting to look a lot like the cult-like, "he's our savior" type following Howard Dean had back in '03. Hope he fares better. The difference between Howard Dean and Ron Paul is like night and day. May seem cult-like to you only because you hear little or nothing about him on the television. If you listen to him with an open mind (and it requires a bit of research since his ideas aren't served to you on the tele), you might understand what the hype is about. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #56 October 10, 2007 Hmmm...I cannot answer that question, as the answer would definitely...er...might...incriminate me. Timing is everything. Today...I choose answer a. Tomorrow, answer b. After I win the presidency and commence Operation Liberate Jalasco, option D. And thank YOU for your support! Bartle's and James - eat yer hearts out! JACKASS '08 Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #57 October 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteAll this fawning over Ron Paul is starting to look a lot like the cult-like, "he's our savior" type following Howard Dean had back in '03. Hope he fares better. The difference between Howard Dean and Ron Paul is like night and day. May seem cult-like to you only because you hear little or nothing about him on the television. If you listen to him with an open mind (and it requires a bit of research since his ideas aren't served to you on the tele), you might understand what the hype is about. When people make blanket statements like "Not to mention that constitutional rights and national sovereignty will continue to erode under any of the abovementioned candidates(which doesn't include Ron Paul)", it certainly has a cult-like feel. I've read up on Ron Paul. I like what he has to say. But considering who he has to work with in Congress, I think he has unachievable goals... and that's a deal breaker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #58 October 10, 2007 I think the public can't get used to Ron Paul because he doesn't speak or think like politicians are supposed to. And the media has been doing its best to sideline him as well. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #59 October 10, 2007 Quote I've read up on Ron Paul. I like what he has to say. But considering who he has to work with in Congress, I think he has unachievable goals... and that's a deal breaker. Sounds like Congress is the problem. Aren't they all up for election next year? I think we should petition for a "none of the above" selection on the ballot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #60 October 10, 2007 At this point, it is much too early to tell. Both parties have a chance at winning, but they both have their problems. GOP: The huge Conservative base is not happy at all with any of the front runners and are considering running with a 3rd party. If they do this, the Dem will win. Dems: Right now it appears Hillary is the the front runner. The problem with her is not her gender but rather the fact that there is a huge unlikeability about her. Electing her and we have another 4 years of division in the country and a large percentage of deep hatred for the president. At this point, she does not have the support of Moveon and the Kos. IMO, this upcoming election should be the most interesting; yet I'm finding it to be the opposite. Let's not forget that a lot can happen in the next 13 months that can effect the outcome of the election. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #61 October 10, 2007 QuoteQuote I've read up on Ron Paul. I like what he has to say. But considering who he has to work with in Congress, I think he has unachievable goals... and that's a deal breaker. Sounds like Congress is the problem. Aren't they all up for election next year? I think we should petition for a "none of the above" selection on the ballot. Or vote for Ralph Nader. That'll show 'em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #62 October 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote I've read up on Ron Paul. I like what he has to say. But considering who he has to work with in Congress, I think he has unachievable goals... and that's a deal breaker. Sounds like Congress is the problem. Aren't they all up for election next year? I think we should petition for a "none of the above" selection on the ballot. Or vote for Ralph Nader. That'll show 'em. Can't fault people for voting for who they think is the right person for the job. I never gave Nader voters any crap. There were more than enough non-voters to pick on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #63 October 10, 2007 Quote I've read up on Ron Paul. I like what he has to say. But considering who he has to work with in Congress, I think he has unachievable goals... and that's a deal breaker. His effectiveness would not be just on achieving his goals, but also on stopping the pork-barrel-feeders and war-mongers from achieving theirs. That alone would make his presidency worth-while even if he never successfully initiated a single piece of legislation. His nickname is "Dr. No" due to all the legislation he has voted against. I'm sure "Dr. No" would have no problems using the presidential veto power."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #64 October 10, 2007 QuoteLet's not forget that a lot can happen in the next 13 months that can effect the outcome of the election. we'll be down to tweedledum and tweedledee in 4 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #65 October 11, 2007 QuoteQuoteLet's not forget that a lot can happen in the next 13 months that can effect the outcome of the election. we'll be down to tweedledum and tweedledee in 4 months. I'm going with the Cheshire Cat. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #66 October 15, 2007 Quote Let's not forget that a lot can happen in the next 13 months that can effect the outcome of the election. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- we'll be down to tweedledum and tweedledee in 4 months. You're right. That's the really scary part. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #67 October 16, 2007 QuoteHmmm...I cannot answer that question, as the answer would definitely...er...might...incriminate me. Is this not the point where you say "But, but... I never inhaled swallowed"? Alternatively, you could also say "The people should not misunderestimate the effects of Tequila". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
