kallend 2,106 #51 October 13, 2007 QuoteJust just made my point sir. Thank You. Point proven? you are a fiscal socialist. Ah, and my own laws, are they not yours? Are you not a US citizen? I explain to you the nature of the inheritance and estate tax law, and you repeatedly respond by name-calling. I guess you cannot justify your position so name calling is your only recourse. Your tax laws are my tax laws too. The difference is that I bother to understand them and you just whine about them. So let me repeat. Estate and inheritance taxes are NOT double taxation, because they are not levied on the dead person. They are levied on the recipient of the property. If you wish to whine about double taxation, choose a real double (or triple taxation) situation, like paying sales tax and excise tax on a purchase when paying with money on which you have already paid income tax.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #52 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteJust just made my point sir. Thank You. Point proven? you are a fiscal socialist. Ah, and my own laws, are they not yours? Are you not a US citizen? I explain to you the nature of the inheritance and estate tax law, and you repeatedly respond by name-calling. I guess you cannot justify your position so name calling is your only recourse. Your tax laws are my tax laws too. The difference is that I bother to understand them and you just whine about them. So let me repeat. Estate and inheritance taxes are NOT double taxation, because they are not levied on the dead person. They are levied on the recipient of the property. If you wish to whine about double taxation, choose a real double (or triple taxation) situation, like paying sales tax and excise tax on a purchase when paying with money on which you have already paid income tax. If you care to look back I was not whining about anything. I was calling you what you are, a fiscal socialist. You want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. Fine, but at least be honest about what or who you are. As for a over spending republican? Yes, I am discusted at the spending those idots did when they (the Repbs) were in power and I have stated that many times over on the site. But, the problem is social programs, not the war. So call yourself what you are. I for one do not like seeing family farms going down because the death tax can not be paid. Some one who has worked for it should be able to hand it down, not give it to government"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 October 13, 2007 Quote The rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071012/bs_nm/irs_income_dc By the way, you should do a little more research before posting slanted views like this. Example, see what dollar ranges are in the studies they use to print this crap is. Find out what the definition of poor is in the perspective they use. This is class warfare crap make to get people (I assume like you) have an emotional responce. Looks like it worked"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #54 October 13, 2007 QuoteBut, the problem is social programs, not the war. BULL FUCKING SHIT.. There is NO social program that has caused as much transfer of our tax dollars from one group to another in the HISTORY of our country like the waste and greed that have transferred vast amounts of our tax dollars to the UNDESERVING as has this war with its cost plus overruns going into the pockets of the FRIENDS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #55 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteBut, the problem is social programs, not the war. BULL FUCKING SHIT.. There is NO social program that has caused as much transfer of our tax dollars from one group to another in the HISTORY of our country like the waste and greed that have transferred vast amounts of our tax dollars to the UNDESERVING as has this war with its cost plus overruns going into the pockets of the FRIENDS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. Ah, you had better see where the bulk of the tax dollars go before making a post like this again"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #56 October 13, 2007 Ah I see you still have your head stuck somewhere that you cant or wont see the reality of this little adventure and what it has done to our country. But I guess Lush Rimjob is not talking about the corruption and cost plus contracts etc.. his radio constituents dont want to hear that so they go with the things HE believes are happening not the reality of true waste and greed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #57 October 13, 2007 If you think that "corruption and cost plus contracts" are solely a Republican invention, think again... oh, I forgot - Halliburton+"Clinton's war" = good Halliburton+"Bush's war" = bad Sorry - I'll try to keep it straight from now on.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #58 October 13, 2007 Quote Hey its working for some of you people... http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?pid=120887 But you support it and buy it hook line and sinlker as long as the checks roll in, lets not pretend its anything else now shall we. Corporate welfare is GOOD FOR AMERICA http://www.mediamouse.org/resources/contracts.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #59 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuote Hey its working for some of you people... http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?pid=120887 But you support it and buy it hook line and sinlker as long as the checks roll in. Try again - I was doing this type of gig before Bush took office, and I expect I'll be doing this type of gig after, as well...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #60 October 13, 2007 QuoteTry again - I was doing this type of gig before Bush took office, and I expect I'll be doing this type of gig after, as well... Well we were talking about Reagonomics right...I guess some people are really into being trickled upon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteTry again - I was doing this type of gig before Bush took office, and I expect I'll be doing this type of gig after, as well... Well we were talking about Reagonomics right...I guess some people are really into being trickled upon. And some just like to do the trickling...even when the budget numbers prove them wrong.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #62 October 13, 2007 The difference is.. some of us see the larger picture of what you consider to be waste.. helps a hell of a lot of Americans who need help...or EARNED the help.. rahter than the corporate whores who do not need help but get the largese of tax dollars handed out with no oversite where BILLIONS of outright corruption is at work ... but we see no moral indignation or outcry from those who put this devastation of the national treasure into play.. but as long as you are getting yours.. what the hell .. party on dudes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #63 October 13, 2007 Some of us see that it has ALWAYS happened and isn't just the regime of one political party like some others try to claim... since we're now discussing 'big pictures'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #64 October 13, 2007 QuoteSome of us see that it has ALWAYS happened and isn't just the regime of one political party like some others try to claim... since we're now discussing 'big pictures'. Now what were those numbers of waste under the former administration.. and what was the deficit????? Since 1980.. there have been how many years of Republican Administrations.. and what percentage of the National Debt were racked up under them???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #65 October 13, 2007 Soooo, what happens to the people who inherit the family's farm? The wealth of the dead person is in land, not money. Should those people lose the farm?Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #66 October 13, 2007 QuoteSoooo, what happens to the people who inherit the family's farm? The wealth of the dead person is in land, not money. Should those people lose the farm? No inheritance tax is at the 100% level, so why would they lose the farm? Just pay the tax, like everyone else has to. If we're going to have an inheritance tax (and the government says we are) then I see no reason that any one type of property should be exempt while another is not.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #67 October 13, 2007 QuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #68 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. That is however the result of the policies and tax rules you support. It is easy to understand why you support that. It keeps votes going to the party you want to win"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #69 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteSoooo, what happens to the people who inherit the family's farm? The wealth of the dead person is in land, not money. Should those people lose the farm? No inheritance tax is at the 100% level, so why would they lose the farm? Just pay the tax, like everyone else has to.Speaking of the 100% you are correct. But as for what the result of the taxing level, well, you said you know the laws. Well how about the effects of the laws? You obviously have no grasp of that If we're going to have an inheritance tax (and the government says we are) then I see no reason that any one type of property should be exempt while another is not."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #70 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteSoooo, what happens to the people who inherit the family's farm? The wealth of the dead person is in land, not money. Should those people lose the farm? No inheritance tax is at the 100% level, so why would they lose the farm? Just pay the tax, like everyone else has to.Speaking of the 100% you are correct. But as for what the result of the taxing level, well, you said you know the laws. Well how about the effects of the laws? You obviously have no grasp of that Why should farmers be treated differently than any other business; say, dry cleaners or body shop owners; when it comes to inheritance taxes. Same rules for everyone is the only fair way. If you can't make a business plan that allows for paying your taxes, sell the business to someone that can. That's capitalism in action.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #71 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #72 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #73 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSoooo, what happens to the people who inherit the family's farm? The wealth of the dead person is in land, not money. Should those people lose the farm? No inheritance tax is at the 100% level, so why would they lose the farm? Just pay the tax, like everyone else has to.Speaking of the 100% you are correct. But as for what the result of the taxing level, well, you said you know the laws. Well how about the effects of the laws? You obviously have no grasp of that Why should farmers be treated differently than any other business; say, dry cleaners or body shop owners; when it comes to inheritance taxes. Same rules for everyone is the only fair way. If you can't make a business plan that allows for paying your taxes, sell the business to someone that can. That's capitalism in action. They pay the taxes and you know it. Why should a business, any business be forces to pay more because some one dies?? I can answer that for you. To redistribute wealth. Oh, and that is the definition of what? I know I know. A FISCAIAL SOCIALIST!!!! So admit it, that is what you are!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #74 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want. OK, you gave it your best shot and your response is still semi-literate rubbish. Have a nice evening.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #75 October 13, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote You want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want. OK, you gave it your best shot and your response is still semi-literate rubbish. Have a nice evening. And you think you should be taken seriouly too I guess"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 3 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
kallend 2,106 #71 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #72 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #73 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSoooo, what happens to the people who inherit the family's farm? The wealth of the dead person is in land, not money. Should those people lose the farm? No inheritance tax is at the 100% level, so why would they lose the farm? Just pay the tax, like everyone else has to.Speaking of the 100% you are correct. But as for what the result of the taxing level, well, you said you know the laws. Well how about the effects of the laws? You obviously have no grasp of that Why should farmers be treated differently than any other business; say, dry cleaners or body shop owners; when it comes to inheritance taxes. Same rules for everyone is the only fair way. If you can't make a business plan that allows for paying your taxes, sell the business to someone that can. That's capitalism in action. They pay the taxes and you know it. Why should a business, any business be forces to pay more because some one dies?? I can answer that for you. To redistribute wealth. Oh, and that is the definition of what? I know I know. A FISCAIAL SOCIALIST!!!! So admit it, that is what you are!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #74 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want. OK, you gave it your best shot and your response is still semi-literate rubbish. Have a nice evening.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #75 October 13, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote You want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want. OK, you gave it your best shot and your response is still semi-literate rubbish. Have a nice evening. And you think you should be taken seriouly too I guess"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 3 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kallend 2,106 #74 October 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want. OK, you gave it your best shot and your response is still semi-literate rubbish. Have a nice evening.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #75 October 13, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote You want money taken from those that have worked for it and given to those who choose not to work. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE POST WHERE I SAID I WANTED MONEY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WORK. I never said you said that. I can't cause that is what you want. The result of your fiscal socialist position For once you are correct. I have never said that so stop claiming that it is what I want. OK, you gave it your best shot and your response is still semi-literate rubbish. Have a nice evening. And you think you should be taken seriouly too I guess"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
