China getting all pissy over the Dalai Lama

[BillyVance 34]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21320198/

I mean, what the fuck, really? Tibet is this tiny province of China nestled high in the Himalayas, and the Dalai Lama is one of the world's revered individuals, who just received the Congressional Medal from President Bush, and the Chinese are all up-shit-creek.

Maybe we should give the Taiwanese president the same medal, just to see what happens next.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Stumpy 284]

China are so out of order on this one its untrue. Doesn't surprise me though.

I went to see the Dalai Lama speak a few months back, and he was Charismatic, funny, humble, and displayed a really sensible, balanced viewpoint when questions were opened to the floor and some of the tricky questions came up, particularly around euthanasia and abortion. If only all religious and world leaders could be a little more like him.

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[BillyVance 34]

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China are so out of order on this one its untrue. Doesn't surprise me though.

I went to see the Dalai Lama speak a few months back, and he was Charismatic, funny, humble, and displayed a really sensible, balanced viewpoint when questions were opened to the floor and some of the tricky questions came up, particularly around euthanasia and abortion. If only all religious and world leaders could be a little more like him.

Cool! I once met the Rev. Desmond Tutu after he did a sermon. He was like the same way, one of the geniune people you'll ever meet.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[normiss 854]

Tibet is NOT a nation!
It's a province and an inalienable part of China!

[BillyVance 34]

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Tibet is NOT a nation!
It's a province and an inalienable part of China!

okay, fixed it. My bad... History says China invaded and took over Tibet in 1951. What was Tibet before that? I can't imagine why China would get all bent out of shape over this or allow Taiwan's leader (from another of China's self-proclaimed territories) to travel to the U.S. Both territories are tiny. Then there's Hong Kong, who still prefers a democracy over communism.

The Chinese government can all go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[quade 4]

Well, I tried to start a thread about this, but I guess your's got more traction.

1) GWB move to show a true leader of peace as opposed to Gore = Brilliant.

2) GWB picking Dalai Lama at the expense of relations with China = stupid beyond compare.

ANYBODY should have seen China's reaction coming. The flippin' cats that live in my back yard should have seen this one coming.

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[normiss 854]

it will get even more interesting when the current Dalai Lama passes...China has said they will choose the next one.

They were an independant nation beofre China invaded. It seems to be about tourism given the way China is developing Tibet these days.
They will slowly erradicate the Tibetans. Culturally it is already happening..
What will the Yaks do?

[rehmwa 2]

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1) GWB move to show a true leader of peace as opposed to Gore = Brilliant.

"as opposed to Gore"

so you don't think the DL earned it on his own?

Or even that there wasn't a position by the admin on certain aspects of the Chinese government before the Nobel awards?

I suspect this was a direct statement to China, and that the administration could really care less about anything to do with Al Gore at this point.

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[AWL71 0]

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Well, I tried to start a thread about this, but I guess your's got more traction.

1) GWB move to show a true leader of peace as opposed to Gore = Brilliant.

2) GWB picking Dalai Lama at the expense of relations with China = stupid beyond compare.

ANYBODY should have seen China's reaction coming. The flippin' cats that live in my back yard should have seen this one coming.

Bush did not cave to political pressure and recognized someone who is worthy of praise. How is that bad? China needs us worse than we need them. In 2006 the US exported 55.2 billion worth of goods in to China and China imported 287.8 billion worth of goods into the US. Who comes out the winner in that situation? Let China bitch all they want. When push comes to shove they will back down because in the end they will do what is best for their economy.

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[rehmwa 2]

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China needs us worse than we need them.

That's less and less apparent as time goes on. But I'd look for a rising ecomony outside the two economic superpowers.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[nerdgirl 0]

Does anyone else recognize parallels w/Turkey & domestic Kurds ?

The CIA also trained & armed Tibetan resistance fighters in the late 1950s through the 1970s ... even assisted a group in parachuting trained Tibetans to Lhasa.

Lots of references out there:

http://www.historynet.com/magazines/military_history/3025986.html

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0021-9118(200302)62%3A1%3C271%3ATCSWIT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-%23

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3821/is_200604/ai_n17179243

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/arc/programs/tibet_cia.html

VR/Marg

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[NCclimber 0]

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The CIA also trained & armed Tibetan resistance fighters in the late 1950s through the 1970s ... even assisted a group in parachuting trained Tibetans to Lhasa.

They also planted nuclear powered listening devices on Nanda Devi, right across the border in India.

[NCclimber 0]

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Well, I tried to start a thread about this, but I guess your's got more traction.

One of the keys to a good troll is not being so obvious.

[nerdgirl 0]

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it will get even more interesting when the current Dalai Lama passes...China has said they will choose the next one.

I thought they already had picked ('identified) 'their' choice for the 15th incarnation?

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Culturally it is already happening..

The phrase "cultural genocide" is used by pro-Tibetan groups and exiles. The phrase 'genocide' needs to be used very carefully; it's debated. The ethnic Han Chinese population now exceeds ethnic Tibetans in Lhasa.

VR/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

[rehmwa 2]

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Well, I tried to start a thread about this, but I guess your's got more traction.

One of the keys to a good troll is not being so obvious.

he wasn't trolling, in a "Gore-centric/revenge at all costs" universe, it's obvious. The sad part is, Hal Gor is just a sad footnote in history with a small following of worshippers.

In fact, when GWB follows down that path, then we can all forget the last 8 years as some bad dream and continue on with life.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants